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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1246 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 1:26 pm: |      |
You might not believe it, but the professional army did more damage than the amateur one! |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 578 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 1:48 pm: |      |
Professional army - soldiers? Amateur army - soldiers? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1249 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 5:29 pm: |      |
Professional army - soldiers? Yes. Amateur army - soldiers? No. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 584 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 5:31 pm: |      |
Salvation Army? Did both armies consist of adults? |
Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz
Post Number: 32 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 8:20 pm: |      |
I don't get it... what is unexpected about it? Or did you mean it the other way around? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:33 am: |      |
Salvation Army? No. Did both armies consist of adults? Yes. I don't get it... what is unexpected about it? That's what you have to figure out. Or did you mean it the other way around? No. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 594 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 10:52 am: |      |
The damage: lives lost? Property damaged? Time/location relevant? If so, (LTPF list of centuries/LTPF list of countries) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1254 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:03 am: |      |
The damage: lives lost? No. Property damaged? Yes. Time/location relevant? Yes. If so, (LTPF list of centuries/LTPF list of countries) 20th century, Republic of Ireland. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 595 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:09 am: |      |
The amateur army - legal? Illegal? Was it a military type organization? OR was it just called an army? IRA? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1257 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:25 am: |      |
The amateur army - legal? Illegal? Yes. Was it a military type organization? Yope. OR was it just called an army? Yes. IRA? Yes. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 597 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:42 am: |      |
IRA bombing? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1260 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:43 am: |      |
IRA bombing? Yes. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 600 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:14 pm: |      |
So did IRA cause greater damage by their bombing than the professional army which was to fight them? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1263 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:34 pm: |      |
So did IRA cause greater damage by their bombing than the professional army which was to fight them? No. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2008 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 3:54 pm: |      |
Is the professional army in this case the British Army? Is this puzzle subjective or are there actual figures to substantiate the puzzle statement? Are we definately talking about the Republic of Ireland here and not Northern Ireland? Does this relate to the IRA's campaign of the 1920's or the later one during the Northern Irish troubles? Is the puzzle dealing with one incident or a number of incidents over a prolonged period? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1265 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:53 pm: |      |
Is the professional army in this case the British Army? No. Is this puzzle subjective or are there actual figures to substantiate the puzzle statement? Hm. I don't have figures, but I don't have reason to doubt the anecdote this is based on, either. It certainly could be subjective. For purposes of the puzzle, assume it's objective. Are we definately talking about the Republic of Ireland here and not Northern Ireland? Correct. Does this relate to the IRA's campaign of the 1920's or the later one during the Northern Irish troubles? The later one. Is the puzzle dealing with one incident or a number of incidents over a prolonged period? One incident. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 609 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Should we ask Uncle Google, or you'd prefer us rather not to ;-))? So the IRA damaged something with their bombs. Was the action of the professional army related to the IRA bombing? Or was it unrelated but similar in nature? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1268 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:28 am: |      |
Should we ask Uncle Google, or you'd prefer us rather not to ;-))? The incident is pretty well-known. I expect Peter365 knows about it. But don't give it away if you work it out early. So the IRA damaged something with their bombs. Yes. Was the action of the professional army related to the IRA bombing? Yes. Or was it unrelated but similar in nature? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2012 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:10 am: |      |
LOL you suspect correctly. I do know this but will keep quiet. I must keep one eye on this puzzle as i've something for you when it's spoyled. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1285 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 4:08 pm: |      |
I look forward to seeing it. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 684 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 6:19 pm: |      |
The action of the professional army: was it aimed at rescuing someone? Neutralizing the IRA army? Cleaning up the mess after the bombing? Was the damage caused to property? lives? health? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1306 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 11:38 pm: |      |
The action of the professional army: was it aimed at rescuing someone? Neutralizing the IRA army? Cleaning up the mess after the bombing? This. Was the damage caused to property? This. lives? health? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3942 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 3:15 pm: |      |
Did they destroy more buildings during the clean up than the what damage the actual bombs caused? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1308 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 3:41 pm: |      |
Did they destroy more buildings during the clean up than the what damage the actual bombs caused? Yep. ******************* Spoiler ******************* On March 8, 1966, an IRA splinter group blew up Nelson's Pillar, a Dublin monument. They did little collateral damage. Two days later, for safety reasons, engineers of the Irish army blew up what remained of the monument. They miscalculated, and the blast damaged every building in the street. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2029 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 12:29 am: |      |
As promised here's the little something for you. As with most things the Irish have "celebrated" the blowing up of Nelsons Pillar by writing a song about it. The song brings Nelson's Statue to life and also the statue of Dan O'Connell after whom dublin's main street is named. Anyway it's quite an amusing song even though it commerorates an act of violence. Lord Nelson lived in pompous state Upon his pillar high And down along O'Connell St He cast one wicked eye He thought how this barbaric race had fought the British crown And yet were content to let him stay Right here in Dublin town. Chorus So remember brave Lord Nelson boys He's never known a defeat And for his reward they stuck him up In the middle of O'Connell St So for many years Lord Nelson stood And noone seemed to care He'd wink at Dan O'Connell Who was standing right down there He thought the Irish must like me Or they wouldn't let me stay Except that is those blighters That they call the IRA Chorus So remember brave Lord Nelson boys He's never known a defeat And for his reward they stuck him up In the middle of O'Connell St And then in 1966 On March the 7th day A bloody great explosion Made Lord Nelson rock and sway He crashed and Dan O'Connell cried In woeful misery There'll be twice as many pigeons now will come and Sh*t on me!! Chorus So remember brave Lord Nelson boys He's never known a defeat And for his reward they blew him up In the middle of O'Connell St |