| Author | Message | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 810 Registered: 11-2008 |
I used to have an induced scrund. I was gloating when I learned it was just a scrund. What was the scrund about? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 417 Registered: 6-2008 |
How is an induced scrund different from a normal scrund? I don't recall having that defined. Does it mean it was the result of your own inference? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 813 Registered: 11-2008 |
How is an induced scrund different from a normal scrund? I don't recall having that defined. Does it mean it was the result of your own inference? Perhaps it hasn't been defined yet and I am the first one to coin a new sub-term ;-)). What I mean is that I did not infer the scrund myself but somebody made me believe it was true | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 331 Registered: 7-2009 |
Were you gloating because you found out it was a scrund? Or were you gloating about something else? If the first, were you gloating because you had originally been right (before it was "induced")? Or for another reason? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 815 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were you gloating because you found out it was a scrund? Or were you gloating about something else? It was nice to find out it was a scrund for a reason which was related to the persons who caused it If the first, were you gloating because you had originally been right (before it was "induced")I wasn't originally right because I had never realized the scrund could be a scrund - I just did not have any reason not to believe it? Or for another reason? This | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 327 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is the title relevant? If it is - I'm going to go out on a limb here... is the TV show "Lost in Space" relevant? Is the movie "Forbidden Planet" relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 820 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the title relevant? Yes If it is - I'm going to go out on a limb here... is the TV show "Lost in Space" relevant? Is the movie "Forbidden Planet" relevant? but this is a wrong track | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 330 Registered: 8-2009 |
Ah, darn it, I knew it was a long shot... So it involves someone (or something) named Robbie? Is Robbie H/A/M? Is he real? Fictional? Famous? Will identifying him (if it's possible) help figure out the scrund? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 824 Registered: 11-2008 |
Ah, darn it, I knew it was a long shot... So it involves someone (or something) named Robbie? Yes Is Robbie H/A/M? Yes to all Is he real? Yes Fictional? Famous?Yes Will identifying him (if it's possible) Yes, it is possible help figure out the scrund? I can't honestly tell yes - he is only an example of what the scrund was about - but it can certainly show you the right track | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 331 Registered: 8-2009 |
I'm going to go out on another limb... is it Robbie Robertson of "The Band"? If so, does the scrund involve his singing voice? If not... Is he a singer? Musician? Actor? Movie star? If not, is he an entertainer of some kind? TV? Radio? Writer? Dancer? If not entertainer... Politician? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 825 Registered: 11-2008 |
I'm going to go out on another limb... is it Robbie Robertson of "The Band"? If so, does the scrund involve his singing voice? 'fraid not If not... Is he a singer? Musician? Actor? Movie star? If not, is he an entertainer of some kind? TV? Radio? Writer? Yesish; no to the rest Dancer? If not entertainer... Politician? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 332 Registered: 8-2009 |
Darn it! I have to stop going out on limbs, they keep breaking under me... Journalist? Publisher? Poet? (Robert Frost?) | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 826 Registered: 11-2008 |
Darn it! I have to stop going out on limbs, they keep breaking under me... On the contrary - you almost have him ;-)) - see below Journalist? Publisher? Poet? Yes (Robert Frost?) but not this one (although I love him very much as well) | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 333 Registered: 8-2009 |
Hmm... I don't know too many poets, and don't want to resort to independent research, so... Was the scrund about him himself? His personal life? His poetry? How he wrote it? What his poetry was about? A particular poem? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 334 Registered: 8-2009 |
Robert Burns? (I swear, I thought of him, didn't look up a thing...) Didn't he write the line about "the best laid plans of mice and men"? Is that line relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 827 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hmm... I don't know too many poets, and don't want to resort to independent research, so... Was the scrund about him himself? Yesish; he was just an example of a group the scrund was about His personal life? Yes His poetry? Yes How he wrote it? No What his poetry was about? Yes A particular poem? The scrund was not about a particular poem but a particular poem helped me to get rid of it Robert Burns? (I swear, I thought of him, didn't look up a thing...) Yes, it was him; and if you want to look up anything, I won't mind Didn't he write the line about "the best laid plans of mice and men"? Yes indeed (although it was "schemes" not "plans") Is that line relevant? No | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 336 Registered: 8-2009 |
I guess I had a scrund about that line... | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 829 Registered: 11-2008 |
I guess I had a scrund about that line... :-)) | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 338 Registered: 8-2009 |
Wait, what? You said it wasn't relevant... | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 830 Registered: 11-2008 |
Wait, what? You said it wasn't relevant... Yes, and it still holds - is there something that makes you think I've changed my mind? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 341 Registered: 8-2009 |
I don't know, I got confused, for a moment I thought you were saying you also had a scrund about that line, sorry... | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 832 Registered: 11-2008 |
I don't know, I got confused, for a moment I thought you were saying you also had a scrund about that line, sorry... I was just smiling as I understood you had a scrund about the schemes/plans line and have just got rid of it. Did not mean it to confuse you and if I did, I apologize :-)) | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 342 Registered: 8-2009 |
No, i did it to myself... Did you assume something personal about him based on his poetry that turned out not be true? | ||
| Ferrets101 (Ferrets101)
New member Username: Ferrets101 Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2009 |
Novel "Of Mice and Men" relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 833 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did you assume something personal about him Yes, and about others as well based on his poetry Yope that turned out not be true Yes? Novel "Of Mice and Men" relevant? No | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4056 Registered: 12-2000 |
Spiders relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 836 Registered: 11-2008 |
Spiders relevant? No, why? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4059 Registered: 12-2000 |
Just a scrund I had... :P | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 839 Registered: 11-2008 |
;-)) About Bruce? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4060 Registered: 12-2000 |
Yep, guilty as charged. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 842 Registered: 11-2008 |
Aye, that was Barton :-)) | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4064 Registered: 12-2000 |
I know... | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 845 Registered: 11-2008 |
I just couldn't resist the opportunity to brag that I know it too, as this does not happen too often to me :-)) | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4067 Registered: 12-2000 |
:-) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1331 Registered: 5-2003 |
Based on one of his songs (or poems set to music)? Anything to do with the fact that much of Burns' writing was reworking traditional material and he only wrote parts of some songs commonly attributed to him? Auld Lang Syne and McPherson's Rant are both good examples. Did you assume something about Burns' life? About his family? About Scots? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 846 Registered: 11-2008 |
Based on one of his songs (or poems set to music)It was on the basis of one his poem set to music I realized that the scrund was a scrund? Anything to do with the fact that much of Burns' writing was reworking traditional material and he only wrote parts of some songs commonly attributed to him? No Auld Lang Syne and McPherson's Rant are both good examples. Did you assume something about Burns' life? Yes About his family? No About Scots? No | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4069 Registered: 12-2000 |
Auld Lang Syne relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 849 Registered: 11-2008 |
Auld Lang Syne relevant? No | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2081 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is this a misheard lyric type of scrund? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 850 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is this a misheard lyric type of scrund? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1348 Registered: 5-2003 |
So the scrund is not caused by the song? The song helped you realize that you had a scrund? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 859 Registered: 11-2008 |
So the scrund is not caused by the song? Correct The song helped you realize that you had a scrund? Exactly so By the way, although I cannot know for sure, I am convinced most of us had a similar scrund during some time in our lives, and I'd bet some still have it | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 870 Registered: 11-2008 |
I want to get it moving, so I will post a short recap: I used to have a scrund about a group of people. Someone made me believe it was true and it never came across my mind to question it. When I've read a certain poem by Robert Burns, I realized that it was just a scrund, and was positively gloating about it. It had something to do both with his life and his poetry. Over to you. | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 371 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is the peom/song "Scots Wha Hae"? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1358 Registered: 5-2003 |
Rantin' Rovin' Robin? (Which is about Burns himself, and is one of my personal favorite songs.) A Man's a Man (which drew on his political views)? Do we need to get the specific poem? Is it a well-known one? Is it one he wrote entirely himself, or one which other writers or the folk tradition have added to? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 872 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the peom/song "Scots Wha Hae"? No Rantin' Rovin' Robin? (Which is about Burns himself, and is one of my personal favorite songs.) No A Man's a Man (which drew on his political views)? No Do we need to get the specific poem? Not necessarily - just the general notion would do as well - but it would be very helpful if you do Is it a well-known one? Not really, no Is it one he wrote entirely himself, or one which other writers or the folk tradition have added to? Just himself | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 379 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was your scrund about... ...Scottish people? Was it a stereotype? ...poets in general? If neither of the above... The group of people your scrund was about, what they have in common, is it... ...something they all do? ...background or heritage? ...something biological? ...a physical feature? ...cultural? Social? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 885 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was your scrund about... ...Scottish people? Was it a stereotype? No ...poets in general? Yesish If neither of the above... The group of people your scrund was about, what they have in common, is it... ...something they all do? The other way round ...background or heritage? ...something biological? Yesish ...a physical feature? ...cultural? Social? Yesish to both Good questions, as usual ;-)) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 374 Registered: 7-2009 |
Sexual orientation? Dating life? Marriage? Having children? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 886 Registered: 11-2008 |
Sexual orientation? Dating life? This-ish Marriage? Having children? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1363 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the poem about love? Women? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 895 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the poem about love? Women? Yes to both | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 321 Registered: 4-2009 |
My Love is Like a Red, Red Rose? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 910 Registered: 11-2008 |
My Love is Like a Red, Red Rose? No | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 323 Registered: 4-2009 |
Erm that's the only one I knew off the top of my head, but looking up a few- Jean O Wert Thou in the Cauld Blast The Banks Of Bonnie Doon Love For Love Any of these? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 913 Registered: 11-2008 |
Erm that's the only one I knew off the top of my head, but looking up a few- Jean O Wert Thou in the Cauld Blast The Banks Of Bonnie Doon Love For Love Any of these? No, I am afraid. There is something special about the poem I am referring to, and it is not a very well known one. Although it will certainly help if you knew which one it was, I think it would perhaps be quicker to focus on the general idea. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 376 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was the scrund about infidelity? Monogamy? Natural abilities with women? Physical attractiveness (of the poet)? Physical attractiveness (of his love interest)? The reasons why the poet is attracted to someone? The attractiveness of a poet's talents? Romance? Courtship? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 917 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the scrund about infidelity? No but OTRT Monogamy? No but OTRT Natural abilities with women? You can call it this, I suppose :-)) Physical attractiveness (of the poet)? Physical attractiveness (of his love interest)? The reasons why the poet is attracted to someone? Yesish The attractiveness of a poet's talents? In a way... yes Romance? Sort of Courtship? Sort of | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 381 Registered: 7-2009 |
Clarification: "...something they all do? The other way round" -- do you mean the scrund is about something poets DON'T do? If so, is the scrund that you thought they didn't something, when they actually do it? Or that you thought they all did something that they don't actually do? Or that you thought they all did something that really only some do? Or does "other way round" mean something else? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 918 Registered: 11-2008 |
Clarification: "...something they all do? The other way round" -- do you mean the scrund is about something poets DON'T do? Yes If so, is the scrund that you thought they didn't something, when they actually do it? Yes! Or that you thought they all did something that they don't actually do? Or that you thought they all did something that really only some do? No to the rest Or does "other way round" mean something else? No, you got it correct - see above | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 384 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is sex (or lack thereof) directly relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 920 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is sex (or lack thereof) directly relevant? Yes indeed :-)) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 387 Registered: 7-2009 |
Poets don't have sex? Don't remain loyal to a single partner? Don't cheat? Don't feel bad about cheating? Don't enjoy sex? Don't go for long periods of time without sex? Don't equate sex with love? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 922 Registered: 11-2008 |
Poets don't have sex? Sort-ish of Don't remain loyal to a single partner? Don't cheat? Don't feel bad about cheating? Don't enjoy sex? But this is much closer Don't go for long periods of time without sex? Don't equate sex with love? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 388 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a comparison? Something along the lines of poets would rather do X than have sex? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 924 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it a comparison? Something along the lines of poets would rather do X than have sex? Noish; I'd say my scrund was simpler than that; and don't forget it was induced :-)) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 399 Registered: 7-2009 |
The somebody who made you believe it was true...an actual person you know? An author? Someone in a movie? Someone on TV? A poet? Does it matter? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 928 Registered: 11-2008 |
The somebody who made you believe it was true...an actual person you know? Yes - in fact, there was a group of such people, and there are much more actual people I don't know; it is quite likely you have met some of them I haven't An author? Someone in a movie? Someone on TV? A poet? No to the rest Does it matter? Quite so, yes; they were the reason why I was gloating and not just, say, amused | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 400 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are the group of people identified/unified by a demographic characteristic? A hobby? An organization? An occupation? Are you a poet? Do you identify in some relevant way with poets? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 930 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are the group of people identified/unified by a demographic characteristic? A hobby? An organization? This-ish An occupation? And this Are you a poet? A wannabe one, but irrelevant :-)) Do you identify in some relevant way with poets? No | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 401 Registered: 7-2009 |
All I keep thinking is athlete (thinking about the high school football guys picking on the artsy guys), but you said not a hobby and not someone on TV. So it's not athlete, right? If not [LTPF list of occupation categories]? Would all poets be considered part of the group? Some poets? No poets? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 931 Registered: 11-2008 |
All I keep thinking is athlete (thinking about the high school football guys picking on the artsy guys), but you said not a hobby and not someone on TV. So it's not athlete, right? Right If not [LTPF list of occupation categories]? Teachers Would all poets be considered part of the group? No Some poets? Yes No poets? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 403 Registered: 7-2009 |
Teachers of a specific age group? High school? College? (I assume it's nothing younger if they're talking about sex, but is it necessarily either?) Of a specific subject? Math? Science? English? Social Studies? Or all teachers? Do all teachers of the appropriate subject and age group teach this? Is it part of state or national education standards / guidelines / curricula? Is it just a commonly held belief among many teachers? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 932 Registered: 11-2008 |
Teachers of a specific age group? High school? This College? And this (I assume it's nothing younger And you assume correctly if they're talking about sex I didn't say that they were talking about sex, did I?, but is it necessarily either?) Of a specific subject? Math? Science? English? This, and another subject as well you have not named Social Studies? No to rest Or all teachers? No Do all teachers of the appropriate subject and age group teach this If you are referring to the scrund, it's completely up to them; I'd say that many of them do? Is it part of state or national education standards / guidelines / curricula Difficult to answer. I'd say the standards etc. rather support that the scrund is taught to pupils; however, it's up to the teachers and they would not commit any breach of the curriculum if they do NOT teach the scrund. ? Is it just a commonly held belief among many teachers This is very close, I think? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 405 Registered: 7-2009 |
Subject: Foreign language? Health? Drama? Art? Music? Hmm, so they led you to think something about the sex lives of poets without actually mentioning sex? Interesting. | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 384 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were you told that poets were generally... loners? ..."Stuffy"? ...pure? ...studious? ...nerdy? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 934 Registered: 11-2008 |
Subject: Foreign language? Health? Drama? Art? Music? I realise my previous answer may have been a bit misleading; the other subject was literature, which can be considered a part of English and/or any other language Hmm, so they led you to think something about the sex lives of poets without actually mentioning sex? Yes, this was exactly what they did. Interesting. Yes indeed, but true :-)). What did your teachers teach you about sex lives of poets? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 409 Registered: 7-2009 |
What did your teachers teach you about sex lives of poets? absolutely nothing =) I think you missed drop's questions Common folklore says that poets are romantics, seducers, womanizers, ladies men, etc. Or else that they're homosexual. Your scrund seems to be the opposite of the first, and you said the second was irrelevant. So I'm very intrigued by what your teachers could have told you. Unless...Is the concept of unrequited love relevant? Broken hearts? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 941 Registered: 11-2008 |
What did your teachers teach you about sex lives of poets? absolutely nothing =) That's the point :-)) I think you missed drop's questions Here they go :-)) Were you told rather "made believe" - nobody told this expressly that poets were generally... loners? ..."Stuffy"? Yes ...pure? This is closest...studious? Sort of ...nerdy? Yes Common folklore says that poets are romantics, seducers, womanizers, ladies men, etc. Or else that they're homosexual. Your scrund seems to be the opposite of the first That's correct, and you said the second was irrelevant And this is correct too.. So I'm very intrigued by what your teachers could have told you. Basically the same they told you :-)) Unless...Is the concept of unrequited love relevant? Broken hearts? Neither Keep in mind we are talking about a group of poets, not poets in general. | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 394 Registered: 8-2009 |
"Keep in mind we are talking about a group of poets, not poets in general." Scottish poets? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 395 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were you told they were virgins? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 396 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were you told they were very religious? Chaste? Priest-like? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 944 Registered: 11-2008 |
"Keep in mind we are talking about a group of poets, not poets in general." Scottish poets? No, a more general category. Were you told they were virgins? Almost Were you told they were very religious? No Chaste? Very much so Priest-like? Almost saint-like :-)) All the above with the reservation no one actually SAID it directly | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 420 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does it have to do with a label that was applied to a certain group of poets or a certain poetic movement in school? Something like the Romantics or Postmodernists (but neither of those, of course)? Were they described as Holy? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 958 Registered: 11-2008 |
Does it have to do with a label that was applied to a certain group of poets Yes or a certain poetic movement No in school? Something like the Romantics or Postmodernists (but neither of those, of course)? But it was much more general Were they described as Holy? No | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 400 Registered: 8-2009 |
Male poets? Were you led to believe they were asexual? Celibate? Did you misunderstand/misinterpret something that was said about them? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 960 Registered: 11-2008 |
Male poets? No Were you led to believe they were asexual? Yes! Celibate? Almost Did you misunderstand/misinterpret something that was said about them? I think not. I'd rather say that what was said about them was (perhaps subconsciously) meant to make us believe they were asexual | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 402 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were you told that they were never married? Never had girlfriends? or boyfriends? never had children? Never had a date? never had a romantic encounter? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 403 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was the poem/song that got rid of the scrund a love poem to one of RB's girlfriends? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 962 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were you told that they were never married? Never had girlfriends? or boyfriends? never had children? Never had a date? Nothing of the abovenever had a romantic encounter? This is quite close. I think you've already got the general notion - that the poets of the group in question were asexual, dull, boring creatures Was the poem/song that got rid of the scrund a love poem to one of RB's girlfriends? It is not dedicated to any specific RB's girlfriend. And I am not sure whether I would call it a love poem, although it definitely is about love. By the way, there are many more RB's poems which would have the same effect as the one I am referring to. | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 404 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is there more to be found out about how you got the scrund? Are we to determine exactly what you were told? Is it a play on words? Does the poem/song mention a specific word or phrase that debunked the scrund? Or is it a general feeling in the poem/song? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 964 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is there more to be found out about how you got the scrund? Possibly not. If you can summarize how you think I've got it, I'll tell you whether you're right, or whether there is something more to be found out Are we to determine exactly what you were told? No Is it a play on words? No Does the poem/song mention a specific word or phrase that debunked the scrund? Yes Or is it a general feeling in the poem/song? And definitely this as well | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 405 Registered: 8-2009 |
Hm, wait, we still don't know the group of poets, do we...? Do I need to know anything specific about Burns, or poets like him, to be able to identify the group? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 965 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hm, wait, we still don't know the group of poets, do we...? That's true Do I need to know anything specific about Burns, or poets like him, to be able to identify the group? Not really, just the general notion. It might help to know that this group does not include just poets, but prose-writers and playwrights as well. | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 406 Registered: 8-2009 |
Are they all... male? Scottish? From that time period? Do they know each other? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 966 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they all... male? Scottish? From that time period? Do they know each other? No to all I have said that the category is very general. They can be male, female, almost from any period or any country. It is often subjective whether they belong to this category or not. Perhaps it might help if you think of your own literature classes and the kind of authors you were mostly taught about. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 428 Registered: 7-2009 |
Successful authors? Published authors? Educated authors? Dead authors? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 970 Registered: 11-2008 |
Successful authors? Yes, and there is some more to it Published authors? Yes, and there is some more to it Educated authors? Probably, but not necessarily Dead authors? Not necessarily Let me give you some random examples of those who belong in this category: Shakespeare, Milton, Burns, Jane Austen, Racine, Cervantes, Goethe,... | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 180 Registered: 5-2009 |
World-famous poets? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 445 Registered: 7-2009 |
Wealthy poets? Well-known poets? Socially respected poets? European poets? Poets in the nobility? If none of the above, could you give examples of authors who don't belong in the category? If so, please do. If not, is it because any author we've likely heard of would be included in the group? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 972 Registered: 11-2008 |
World-famous poets? Yes Wealthy poets? Well-known poets? This Socially respected poets? And this European poets? Poets in the nobility? If none of the above, could you give examples of authors who don't belong in the category? If so, please do. I think you've got the notion - I would call the category "the Classics" If not, is it because any author we've likely heard of would be included in the group? | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 412 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is it because they've been given such elevated status that you wouldn't consider them having normal human (sexual) tendencies? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 981 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it because they've been given such elevated status that you wouldn't consider them having normal human (sexual) tendencies? Bingo! | ||
| Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat Post Number: 413 Registered: 8-2009 |
And the poem/song contained sexual (or at least romantic) references, which unscrunded you? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1011 Registered: 11-2008 |
And the poem/song contained sexual This (or at least romantic) references, which unscrunded you? Yes (btw a nice new word, this) ******************SPOILER****************** When I was in high school and then at University, I was unlucky enough to have literature and/or English teachers who were very serious about the classic authors, praising them highly, forcing us to learn by heart lists of their works, but never actually bothering to have us actually READ them, let alone to go through their work with us and help us understand WHY this particular author is so good. I know it was not entirely their fault as I was old enough to make some investigations on my own, but it gave me the general impression that the "Classics" were a bunch of extremely boring, dull persons who never did anything interesting, and that their work was just like them. I got rid of this scrund when I came across a tape with Robert Burns' poetry, with some renowned actor's voice reading it (I don't remember his exact name). The particular "unscrunding" poem was "Gi'e the Lass her Fairing". It completely changed my opinion as to the "Classic's" dullness. Now, a serious, and I mean it, a SERIOUS warning. Please DON'T click on the links below if you are either: - under the legal age of your country (yes, Gourami, YOU can now, if you wish to); - offended by foul language/indecency; - have a similar scrund I used to, and want to keep it; However, you can still click on them even if any of the above applies, provided you declare on your word of honour that you don't understand Scottish dialect. http://www.bbc.co.uk/robertburns/works/gie_the_lass_her_fairing/ If your scrund is very firmly rooted and not easy to be undone, you may click on this: http://www.robertburns.org.uk/merrymuses.htm and download the pdf file at the bottom of the page. I am aware of the fact that if you had a scrund of me as a serious person, it is now safely unscrunded for good, but one has to make personal sacrifices for the sake of the truth. Of course, I've posted all this only for scientific unscrunding purposes. And,I have warned you, haven't I? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2008 |
Haha, why thank you. Although, according to the motion picture industry, I was old enough for harsh language at seventeen. At 18, I could smoke, vote, join the army, get married without parental consent, and become involved in the pornographic industry. This year, the only added privelage is drinking, that I know of... |
