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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1385 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 7:52 am: |      |
I wonder if they knew who they were fighting. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 985 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 9:56 am: |      |
The Stuarts relevant? The Jacobites? LTPF list of centuries, if you please? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1395 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:16 am: |      |
The Stuarts relevant? The Jacobites? Yes to both. LTPF list of centuries, if you please? 20th. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 191 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:26 am: |      |
they = they? fighting: in a war? If so: WW I? WW II? After WW II? Before WW I? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1398 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:44 am: |      |
they = they? Yes. fighting: in a war? Yes. If so: WW I? This. WW II? After WW II? Before WW I? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 196 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 11:10 am: |      |
Are they soldiers? Fighting other soldiers? Are they British? If so: Scottish? English? If not: French? German? Austrian? US-American? Russian? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1401 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 11:50 am: |      |
Are they soldiers? Fighting other soldiers? Yes to both. Are they British? Yes. If so: Scottish? Yes. English? If not: French? German? Austrian? US-American? Russian? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 986 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:10 pm: |      |
The Stuarts and the Jacobites relevant as a name (eg of a regiment or another group of soldiers)? As a secret code? As a reference? As something similar to the Jacobite wars which happened during the WWI? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1405 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:17 pm: |      |
The Stuarts and the Jacobites relevant as a name (eg of a regiment or another group of soldiers)? No. As a secret code? No. As a reference? Explain. As something similar to the Jacobite wars which happened during the WWI? No. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 989 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:34 pm: |      |
Forget the "reference" thing, it was mostly covered by my last question Was there any relation whatsoever between our Scottish soldiers and the Jacobites/the Stuarts? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1409 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:50 pm: |      |
Forget the "reference" thing, it was mostly covered by my last question Was there any relation whatsoever between our Scottish soldiers and the Jacobites/the Stuarts? Yes, for svv of relation. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 198 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |      |
Are the Scottish soldiers fighting for Britain? Now about the soldiers they are fighting ("the others"): Are the others in fact soldiers of the enemy? Fighting for Germany? Austria? Have the others any special connection to Scotland? England? The Jacobites? Bonnie Prince Charly relevant? Cumberland? Glencoe? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1410 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:58 pm: |      |
Are the Scottish soldiers fighting for Britain? Yes. Now about the soldiers they are fighting ("the others"): Are the others in fact soldiers of the enemy? Yes. Fighting for Germany? This. Austria? Have the others any special connection to Scotland? No. England? Yes. The Jacobites? Yes, for svv of 'others.' Bonnie Prince Charly relevant? Yes. Cumberland? Glencoe? No to both. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 201 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Has the other's connection to England to do with the House of Hanover? The territory of Hanover? If the Scottish soldiers knew who they were fighting, might this have strengthened their will to fight? Impaired it? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1413 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:24 pm: |      |
Has the other's connection to England to do with the House of Hanover? No. The territory of Hanover? No. If the Scottish soldiers knew who they were fighting, might this have strengthened their will to fight? Impaired it? Possibly this. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 992 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:27 pm: |      |
If the Scottish soldiers knew they were fighting Germans (they were Germans, weren't they?) would they have been reluctant to fight because the Germans had helped them back in the Jacobite wars? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1417 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:33 pm: |      |
If the Scottish soldiers knew they were fighting Germans (they were Germans, weren't they?) would they have been reluctant to fight because the Germans had helped them back in the Jacobite wars? Not this. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 996 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:36 pm: |      |
OK. So, if the Scottish soldiers knew they were fighting Germans, they would have been reluctant to fight. Correct? If so, would it be because Germans were enemies to England, and the Scots considered England their enemy, too? Along the line "the enemy of my enemy is actually my friend"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1420 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:38 pm: |      |
OK. So, if the Scottish soldiers knew they were fighting Germans, they would have been reluctant to fight. Correct? FA. If so, would it be because Germans were enemies to England, and the Scots considered England their enemy, too? Along the line "the enemy of my enemy is actually my friend"? No to all. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 998 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:41 pm: |      |
Were the Scottish fighting Germans at all? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1422 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:43 pm: |      |
Were the Scottish fighting Germans at all? Yes. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 204 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:43 pm: |      |
Is something the other soldiers' unit did in the past relevant? Ancestors of some of the soldiers? Some of the soldiers themselves? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1423 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 1:45 pm: |      |
Is something the other soldiers' unit did in the past relevant? No. Ancestors of some of the soldiers? Possibly. Some of the soldiers themselves? No. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 208 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 2:06 pm: |      |
Is it about that ancestors of some of the soldiers may have helped Bonnie Prince Charlie in some way? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1428 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 2:35 pm: |      |
Is it about that ancestors of some of the soldiers may have helped Bonnie Prince Charlie in some way? Hmm, I seem to have made a BLOOPER here. You mean German soldiers? The answer above should not be possibly, but Yes. The answer to your newest question is No. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 210 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 2:46 pm: |      |
So ancestors of some of the German soldiers did something relevant. Did the relevant action happen in the 19th century? 18th? 17th? Earlier? Did it happen in Scotland? England? Wales? Ireland? Germany? Austria? France? Belgium? The Netherlands? Another European country? Another continent? On sea? Were the ancestors in question also soldiers? Did the relevant action consist of fighting? Is it relevant that the Scottish and German soldiers may have common ancestors? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1429 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 4:07 pm: |      |
So ancestors of some of the German soldiers did something relevant. Noish, possible FA. Did the relevant action Hard to call it this. happen in the 19th century? 18th? 17th? Earlier? All of these. Did it happen in Scotland? England? Wales? Ireland? Germany? This. Austria? This. France? This. Belgium? The Netherlands? Another European country? This. Another continent? On sea? Were the ancestors in question also soldiers? Some of them - irr. Did the relevant action consist of fighting? No. FA. Is it relevant that the Scottish and German soldiers may have common ancestors? Yes. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 211 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 4:21 pm: |      |
Do some of the German soldiers have common ancestors with Bonnie Prince Charlie? Is Poland one of the relevant European Countries? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1430 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:00 pm: |      |
Do some of the German soldiers have common ancestors with Bonnie Prince Charlie? Yes. Is Poland one of the relevant European Countries? No. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 1002 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:03 pm: |      |
Would the Scottish be reluctant if they knew they were killing their own (although distant) relatives? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 213 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:16 pm: |      |
Is it possible that one of the German soldiers might be King of the United Kingdom if Bonnie Prince Charlie had succeeded in his attempt to claim the throne? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1432 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:49 pm: |      |
Is it possible that one of the German soldiers might be King of the United Kingdom if Bonnie Prince Charlie had succeeded in his attempt to claim the throne? Yes. ************************* Spoiler ************************* Crown Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria, one of the better German commanders of WWI, was directly descended from Charles I of England, and was thus pretender to the British throne according to the Jacobite succession (which was overthrown by the Glorious Revolution of 1688.) He was not descended from Bonnie Prince Charlie, but he held the same position. Tens of thousands of Scottish Highlanders charged the positions held by his armies during the war. A high proportion of them were killed. I wonder if they knew who was in command against them, as they played pro-Jacobite tunes on the pipes on their way to battle. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 1003 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:51 pm: |      |
Wow, now THAT was a good lateral one! Thanks, Jenburdoo! |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 215 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 9:17 pm: |      |
And another interesting piece of history learned by solving lateral puzzles... thank you! |