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Learning that a common belief about health used to be true but has turned into a scrund is both good news & bad news. How come??
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Spinach involved?
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the belief used to be true? but no longer is? is this because scientific knowledge has advanced? because social circumstances have changed? because lifestyles have changed? because medical care has changed?

the common belief:
did it related to something that was good for us? bad for us? to a particular disease? to the cause of a disease? to the cause of illness generally? to the treatment of a disease? to keeping healthy?

did the belief concern age? race? weight? smoking? food? drink? exercise? sex? lifespan? doctors? cost of healthcare? hospitals?
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the belief used to be true? yes but no longer is? yesis this because scientific knowledge has advanced? yesbecause social circumstances have changed? see previous answerbecause lifestyles have changed? no
because medical care has changed? yes

the common belief:
did it related to something that was good for us? nobad for us? yesish to a particular disease? yes to the cause of a disease? noto the cause of illness generally? no to the treatment of a disease? yesto keeping healthy? see previous answer

did the belief concern age? no race? noweight? nosmoking? no food? no drink? no exercise? no sex? nolifespan? yesish doctors? yope cost of healthcare? nohospitals? no
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Is the belief that a certain disease can't be treated at all? That it can be treated but not completely cured? That a certain treatment is the best option to handle this disease? That there is no good reason for any treatment at all? That you should go to a doctor if you have the disease? That the disease has to be treated in hospital?

Is the disease in question an infection? A hereditary disease? Sometimes the result of an unhealthy lifestyle? Sometimes the result of environmental factors? The result of an accident?
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Is the belief that a certain disease can't be treated at all? That it can be treated but not completely cured? That a certain treatment is the best option to handle this disease? That there is no good reason for any treatment at all? no That you should go to a doctor if you have the disease? no That the disease has to be treated in hospital? no

Is the disease in question an infection? rarely A hereditary disease?sometimes Sometimes the result of an unhealthy lifestyle? yes Sometimes the result of environmental factors? yes The result of an accident? no
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For my first block of questions in my last posting: Does your response mean that all my questions are to be answered with "no"?

Does the disease affect digestion? Respiration? Blood circulation? The nervous system? The skin? Muscles you usually move intentionally? Perception? Metabolism (excluding digestion)? Immune response? Hormones?
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did the disease used to be incurable? and people still think it is?
or did it used to be difficult to cure? and now it is straightforward? buyt people still think it's difficult to cure?

so now, when the scrund is revealed do people now know that an illness is not actually fatal?
so the good thing is that they won't die? but there's a bad thing too? that their lives will be more expensive because of medical treatment? or will be prolonged in a state of poor health?

is medical insurance relevant? the cost of treatment?

do the good thing and the bad thing happen to the same person? is it good for some, but bad for others? good for the individual but bad for society (or vice versa?)
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For my first block of questions in my last posting: Does your response mean that all my questions are to be answered with "no"?Sorry, I simply overlooked those questions! Here are the answers: Is the belief that a certain disease can't be treated at all? no That it can be treated but not completely cured? noThat a certain treatment is the best option to handle this disease? no
Does the disease affect digestion? possibly Respiration? dittoBlood circulation? I think this is less likelyThe nervous system? possibly The skin? ditto Muscles you usually move intentionally? ditto Perception? dittoMetabolism (excluding digestion)? Immune response? ditto Hormones? ditto
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did the disease used to be incurable? sometimes and people still think it is? No, that's not it
or did it used to be difficult to cure? yes and now it is straightforward? no buyt people still think it's difficult to cure? irrel

so now, when the scrund is revealed do people now know that an illness is not actually fatal? no
so the good thing is that they won't die?yope but there's a bad thing too? nothat their lives will be more expensive because of medical treatment? No, I'd never call that bad!! or will be prolonged in a state of poor health? ditto. As Flannery O'Connor says, you can't be any poorer than dead.

is medical insurance relevant? no the cost of treatment? no

do the good thing and the bad thing happen to the same person? possibly is it good for some, but bad for others? possibly good for the individual but bad for society (or vice versa?) No, I'd never call a medical fact bad if it's good for the patient but bad for someone else
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Diabetes? AIDS? Cancer?
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Diabetes? no AIDS? noCancer? yes
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A particular form of cancer? Or just cancer in general?
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If a particular form of cancer, what type/where does it start... brain? lung? breast? skin? liver? pancreas? ovarian? other? Is Patrick Swayze relevant?
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A particular form of cancer? Most but not all cancers would work for this puzzle Or just cancer in general? See previous answer
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If a particular form of cancer, what type/where does it start... brain? lung? breast? skin? liver? pancreas? ovarian? Could be any of theseother? Is Patrick Swayze relevant? I don't even know who he is
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Does it have to do with a particular carcinogen? With something people used to think was a carcinogen? With something that used to be a carcinogen but somehow isn't anymore?

Does it have to do with treatment? With the likelihood of dying?
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Does it have to do with a particular carcinogen? noWith something people used to think was a carcinogen? no With something that used to be a carcinogen but somehow isn't anymore? no

Does it have to do with treatment? yes With the likelihood of dying? yes
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Is the scrund that cancer is the leading cause of death? But that's not true anymore? and the good news is that treatment has improved? and the bad news is that some other disease has risen to become the leading cause of death?
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Is the scrund that cancer is the leading cause of death? no But that's not true anymore? No, & I don't think it ever was and the good news is that treatment has improved? yesand the bad news is that some other disease has risen to become the leading cause of death? no
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Does it have to do with screening tests? And how it's been in the news recently that sometimes the screening is more risky than the cancer it's detecting (e.g. some forms of prostate cancer work so slow that you're likely to die of something else before the cancer gets you anyway, some unnecessary surgeries for breast cancer result from breast self-exams, etc.)

Is detection of the cancer relevant?
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Is the bad news that the treatment is more dangerous?
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Does it have to do with screening tests? no And how it's been in the news recently that sometimes the screening is more risky than the cancer it's detecting (e.g. some forms of prostate cancer work so slow that you're likely to die of something else before the cancer gets you anyway, some unnecessary surgeries for breast cancer result from breast self-exams, etc.)\b} no}

Is detection of the cancer relevant? no
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Is the bad news that the treatment is more dangerous? no
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Is the distinction between the cancers that it would apply to and those it wouldn't:
It applies only to those that are affected by behavior/lifestyle choices?
It applies only to those that are affected by environmental conditions?
It applies only to those that have a genetic component?
It applies only to cancers that affect a certain segment of population?
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Does it have to do with a particular form of treatment? If so, chemotherapy? surgery? radiation therapy? medication? Some other treatment?
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Is the distinction between the cancers that it would apply to and those it wouldn't: yes
It applies only to those that are affected by behavior/lifestyle choices? no
It applies only to those that are affected by environmental conditions? no
It applies only to those that have a genetic component? no
It applies only to cancers that affect a certain segment of population? no
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Does it have to do with a particular form of treatment? yes If so, chemotherapy? yes surgery? yes radiation therapy? possibly medication? dittoSome other treatment? I'm not sure
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so is the complete answer to the 'good news' that some cancers are now treatable? that some people survive cancer? that a lot of people survive cancer? that people now survive some specific cancer? or cancers?

so we need to find the bad news?
does it relate to the fact that some cancers are still untreatable? still have a high mortality?
is it some bad thing that comes following the treatment of a cancer? does it relate to side effects of treatment?
does the bad news relate to some other disease? to cancer? to lifespan? to medical treatment?
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so is the complete answer to the 'good news' that some cancers are now treatable?noish or yopethat some people survive cancer? noishthat a lot of people survive cancer?yope that people now survive some specific cancer? yopeor cancers? yope

so we need to find the bad news? yes
does it relate to the fact that some cancers are still untreatable? nostill have a high mortality? yope
is it some bad thing that comes following the treatment of a cancer? yesdoes it relate to side effects of treatment? no
does the bad news relate to some other disease? noto cancer? yesto lifespan? yes to medical treatment? yes
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is the bad news that, even if you survive one cancer you'll probably get another one?
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Is remission of the same cancer relevant?
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is the bad news that, even if you survive one cancer you'll probably get another one?see next answer
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Is remission of the same cancer relevant? yes
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Is the good news that you're more likely to survive cancer now because treatments are better than in the past?

Is the bad news that more people go into remission now? That certain treatment options increase your likelihood of remission? That the treatment method with the highest rate of success is also the one that is mostly likely going to result in remission for survivors?
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Is the good news that you're more likely to survive cancer now yesishbecause treatments are better than in the past? yes

Is the bad news that more people go into remission now? do you mean remission or recurrence? That certain treatment options increase your likelihood of remission? dittoThat the treatment method with the highest rate of success is also the one that is mostly likely going to result in remission for survivors? ditto
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Whoops. You're right. Let me redo those questions.

Is the bad news that people in remission are more likely to have the cancer recur now? That certain treatments increase the chance of recurrence? That the treatment method with the highest rate of success (i.e. the most cancers in remission) is also the one that is most likely to result in recurrence for survivors?

Sorry about that. Not sure where my head was =)
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Whoops. You're right. Let me redo those questions.

Is the bad news that people in remission are more likely to have the cancer recur now? yesish, but you need to figure out why. It's not that the treatmentis toxicThat certain treatments increase the chance of recurrence? noThat the treatment method with the highest rate of success (i.e. the most cancers in remission) is also the one that is most likely to result in recurrence for survivors?noish or no

Sorry about that. Not sure where my head was =) Atop your neck?
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Does it have to do with the fact that a lot of cancers are caused by personal habits and choices? So somebody who gets cancer is likely to get it again because they don't change their habits?

Does it have to do with the X-ray technology that was used to discover cancer? And that excessive exposure/tests searching for the cancer could trigger it again? (My grandfater got breast cancer because of the horribly powerful X-rays they used on him when he got something lodged in his nose when he was younger. The cancer presented many years later.)
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Does it have to do with the fact that a lot of cancers are caused by personal habits and choices? noSo somebody who gets cancer is likely to get it again because they don't change their habits? no

Does it have to do with the X-ray technology that was used to discover cancer? no And that excessive exposure/tests searching for the cancer could trigger it again? no(My grandfater got breast cancer because of the horribly powerful X-rays they used on him when he got something lodged in his nose when he was younger. How terrible. The cancer presented many years later.)
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To clarify, due to my earlier word swap:

Is this puzzle about the likelihood of the same cancer recurring after someone has been in remission? Or is it about getting a different kind of cancer after being in remission for the first one?
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Is it relevant that most people believe "remission" means the person has been 'cured' or the treatment worked? Meanwhile, it doesn't matter how many strong cancer cells are still in the persons body, as long as it isn't causing 'signs & symptoms' of cancer, the person is still considered to be in remission? Thus, since there are still healthy cancer cells in the person's body - they are likely to have a relaps?
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To clarify, due to my earlier word swap:

Is this puzzle about the likelihood of the same cancer recurring after someone has been in remission? yes Or is it about getting a different kind of cancer after being in remission for the first one? no
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Is it relevant that most people believe "remission" means the person has been 'cured' or the treatment worked? yopeMeanwhile, it doesn't matter how many strong cancer cells are still in the persons body, as long as it isn't causing 'signs & symptoms' of cancer, the person is still considered to be in remission? yesThus, since there are still healthy cancer cells in the person's body - they are likely to have a relaps? yes
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So the good news is that treatment is better now than it used to be? Better meaning that someone with cancer is more likely to go into remission than they used to be? But the bad news is that treatment often leaves healthy cancer cells in the body, so people are likely to have a relapse? Are they more likely to have a relapse now than they used to be? Has the definition of "remission" changed? Are people sent home earlier than they used to be (i.e. with less thorough treatment)?
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Are people in remission now more likely to have a relapse because they live longer?
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So the good news is that treatment is better now than it used to be? yes Better meaning that someone with cancer is more likely to go into remission than they used to be? yes But the bad news is that treatment often leaves healthy cancer cells in the body, so people are likely to have a relapse? yes Are they more likely to have a relapse now than they used to be? yes Has the definition of "remission" changed? No, but you're VERY ORT. You still need to identify the scrund, though!!} Are people sent home earlier than they used to be (i.e. with less thorough treatment)? irrel
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Are people in remission now more likely to have a relapse because they live longer?irrel
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BLOOOPERRRALERTTT!!!!!!!!!? Are people sent home earlier than they used to be (i.e. with less thorough treatment)? irrel The answer should be no
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Is the scrund about the definition of relapse? The definition of remission?
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Is the scrund about the definition of relapse? no The definition of remission? no
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HINT: The scrund has the form: The following statement about cancer is true. The falsity of that statement is good news for some cancer patients & bad news for others. The scrund is about cancer cures.
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RECAP: The above HINT is also a recap!
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Is it relevant that cancer treatment most often have bad side-effects? And since treatment now is better, it may have been changed to get less adverse side-effects? Which in turn creates more relapses?
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Is it relevant that cancer treatment most often have bad side-effects? noAnd since treatment now is better, it may have been changed to get less adverse side-effects? no Which in turn creates more relapses? no
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The patients for whom it is good news... is this because they are more likely to survive? Some form of treatment is more likely to be effective? They are less likely to relapse? They are less likely to experience side effects? They are less likely to be negatively emotionally impacted? They are more likely to experience the "joy" of cancer (per your earlier puzzle)?

The patients for whom it is bad news... because they are less likely to survive? Some form of treatment is less likely to be effective? They are more likely to relapse? They are more likely to experience side effects? They are more likely to be negatively emotionally impacted?
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The patients for whom it is good news... is this because they are more likely to survive? yes Some form of treatment is more likely to be effective? yes They are less likely to relapse? yes They are less likely to experience side effects? noThey are less likely to be negatively emotionally impacted? see previous answersThey are more likely to experience the "joy" of cancer (per your earlier puzzle)? eeek--no. I never took that bit of silliness seriously!!

The patients for whom it is bad news... because they are less likely to survive? yes Some form of treatment is less likely to be effective? no They are more likely to relapse? yesThey are more likely to experience side effects? \b {no}They are more likely to be negatively emotionally impacted? see previous answers
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Is it that some decades ago only the "easier" forms of cancer, where the probability of a relapse was low, could be cured at all?
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Is it that some decades ago only the "easier" forms of cancer, where the probability of a relapse was low, could be cured at all? No, but you're ORT
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Does it have to do with the fact that cancers are easier to detect earlier now? So that remission is more likely because cancers that are caught early are more likely to be treatable?
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Does it have to do with the fact that cancers are easier to detect earlier now? no So that remission is more likely because cancers that are caught early are more likely to be treatable? no
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HINT: The number 5 is important to the solution.
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So is five year survival relevant here? is the common belief that used to be true that 'if you survive cancer for five years you're cured'? and now so many people are surviving for five years oe more because of good treatemnt that we now know that cancer can actually come back after five years?
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So is five year survival relevant here? is the common belief that used to be true that 'if you survive cancer for five years you're cured'? and now so many people are surviving for five years oe more because of good treatemnt that we now know that cancer can actually come back after five years? Yes. Aren't you wonderful??!!)

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