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Any other colour, and she would have won.
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colour of clothing? skin?

won a contest? a game?
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colour of clothing? No. skin? No.

won a contest? Yope. a game? Yope.
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Won a lottery? ...other game of chance?

Gambling relevant? Casino?

She would have won money? A race? Something tangible? A job?
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Won a lottery? No. ...other game of chance? Noish or Yope.

Gambling relevant? Yope. Casino? No.

She would have won money? Yes. A race? Something tangible? A job? No to the rest.
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Does the ...event which she could have won involve her own activity (e.g. she competes in a sport/plays a card game) or rather something like betting?
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Stock market relevant?
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Does the ...event which she could have won involve her own activity (e.g. she competes in a sport/plays a card game) or rather something like betting? Both.

Stock market relevant? Yesish. Not directly, however.
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Is the activity actually a sport? A card game? Is she competing AND betting at the same time?

Any fraud involved?
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Is the activity actually a sport? No. A card game? A kind of game, but not a card game. Is she competing AND betting at the same time? Taking part (and thus competing) in the game includes some activities quite similar to betting. She takes part in the game.

Any fraud involved? No.
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Is it a common game? Or rather an extraordinary/strange one? Does it involve physical activity? Any danger involved?
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Is it a common game? No. Or rather an extraordinary/strange one? Indeed. Does it involve physical activity? No. Any danger involved? Only losing money.
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So you can basically play this game without moving from your chair? On the computer?
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So you can basically play this game without moving from your chair? Not entirely, but quite a good part of it. On the computer? Using a computer would be an option today.
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Color of a flag? Of part of the paraphernalia of the game (colors on a die, for example)? Does it matter how many people are playing? Is it a game that can be played solo? Against a computer? Against one person? More? Are teams involved?

Capture the Flag relevant?

Would color-blindness be a disadvantage in this game?
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Color of a flag? Of part of the paraphernalia of the game Yesish. (colors on a die, for example No.)? Does it matter how many people are playing? Not exactly. Is it a game that can be played solo? No. Against a computer? No. Against one person? Noish. More? Yes. Are teams involved? No.

Capture the Flag relevant? No.

Would color-blindness be a disadvantage in this game? Noish. Not more than outside the game.
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You said it's only "yope" a game. Is it a contest? A sweepstakes? A skills test? Is she competing against only people in the same room as her? People within a certain defined geographic area? People all over the world?
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You said it's only "yope" a game. It is a game. The "yope" was because you don't need to win *the* game to win money *in* the game. There isn't necessarily a single winner. Sorry, this may have been misleading - maybe I should have answered "Yesish." Is it a contest? A sweepstakes? A skills test? It is a kind of game. Is she competing against only people in the same room as her? No. People within a certain defined geographic area? Yes for the case I have in mind... People all over the world? ...but theoretically people all over the world could play such a game.
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Monopoly?
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Monopoly? No.
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Is she collecting pieces of something? And if she collects a certain set, she wins a certain amount of money?
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Is she collecting pieces of something? Noish And if she collects a certain set, she wins a certain amount of money? No.
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Is she playing as an individual? Or on a team?
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Is she playing as an individual? This. Or on a team?
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Mastermind?
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Mastermind? No. Note it is an extraordinary or strange game. I don't know of an established name for it.
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Does she play alone? against opponents? one opponent? more than one? several hundred? several thousand?
Is the group of players a closed one? (i.e. could it be that people are involved in the game who do not know of?)
Is the goal of the game to win money?
Is it a zero-sum game? (i.e. the winners can win only that amount that the others lose, there is no "external" reward)
Does the game involve to communicate with other players? with other people that are not players?
communicate as in talking? by phone? written? by e-mail? by SMS?
Would it have been possible to play this game 10 years ago? 100 years ago? 500 years ago? 1000 years ago?
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Colour: Hue? Race?
How many people would you say know of this game?
Do the colours in the game stand for values?
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Does she play alone? No. against opponents? Yes. one opponent? No. more than one? Yes. several hundred? Possibly several thousand? Very unlikely.
Is the group of players a closed one? Please clarify. (i.e. could it be that people are involved in the game who do not know of? Noish.)
Is the goal of the game to win money? Yes.
Is it a zero-sum game? Yes. Maybe even a less-than-zero-sum game. (i.e. the winners can win only that amount that the others lose, there is no "external" reward)
Does the game involve to communicate with other players? Yes. with other people that are not players? Yes.
communicate as in talking? Possibly. by phone? Probably. written? Somewhat Unlikely. by e-mail? If it is played today: Very probably. by SMS? If it is played today: Somewhat unlikely.
Would it have been possible to play this game 10 years ago? Yes. I think I read the article this is based on at least 10 years ago. 100 years ago? Yes. 500 years ago? Noish. Some people did something remarkably similar about 370 years ago, but unfortunately didn't consider it a game. 1000 years ago? No.
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Colour: Hue? This. Race?
How many people would you say know of this game? Very difficult to say. I read about it in a magazine article years ago, and as it is quite a funny story I suppose there was more press coverage.
Do the colours in the game stand for values? No.
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Were the events 370 years ago related to items with names like "Semper Augustus"?
Does the game involve trading? buying and/or selling items? trading options on some items? betting on the color some item might have?
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Were the events 370 years ago related to items with names like "Semper Augustus"? Indeed.
Does the game involve trading? Yes. buying and/or selling items? trading options on some items? This. betting on the color some item might have? No.
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Do you use any special equipment to play this game? Or is it enough with pen and paper?
Is someone needed to keep score?
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Do you use any special equipment to play this game? No. Or is it enough with pen and paper? Well, to communicate by phone, you need a phone. And to settle options on anything other than pens and paper, you need something else than pen and paper.
Is someone needed to keep score? Possibly. However, the players in question should be able and willing to do so themselves.
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Did the options give the right to buy something? to sell something? tangible items? items that can have a color? Would it help to identify the items?
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The event 370 years ago involved tulips/bulbs, are tulips involved in the game as well? Other flowers?
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Did the options give the right to buy something? This. to sell something? tangible items? Yes. items that can have a color? The game can be played with various items. In the case in question, the items have a color. Would it help to identify the items? Yes. In fact, this is necessary for a full solution.

The event 370 years ago involved tulips/bulbs Yes., are tulips involved in the game as well? Other flowers? Not in the case in question. But it would be possible to play the game with (options on) tulip bulbs.
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So she is trading options on items that have a color. Did she choose the one item that lost value? But all other items gained value in the game?
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So she is trading options on items that have a color. Yes. Did she choose the one item that lost value? No. But all other items gained value in the game? No. FA.
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options = options to buy an item at a later date? if it meets a certain price? if a certain set of conditions are met?
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options = options to buy an item at a later date? This (or to sell it.) if it meets a certain price? if a certain set of conditions are met? No to the rest.
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Are the items tangible? if so, were they actually exchanged during the game? (that is, moved physically from one player to another one?)
Do the items still exist? Do they have a use outside the game? or were they especially made for the game?
or (thinking of the "New Market") did they not exist at all when the options where traded? there was merely a chance that they might come into existence?
Did the price of the items change during the game? the quantity? if so: did the players' actions have any impact on the price? the total available quantity of these items?
Or were price? and/or quantity? completely controlled from outside the game? decided by chance?
Did she not win because she had options only for items in this color? for items in all other colors except this one?
Relevant what color?
Was the purpose of the game to simulate the option market? to simulate a crisis in the option market?
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Are the items tangible? Yes. if so, were they actually exchanged during the game? Yes, at the end of the game. (that is, moved physically from one player to another one?)

Do the items still exist? Today? Very probably (and hopefully) not. Do they have a use outside the game? Yes. or were they especially made for the game? No.
or (thinking of the "New Market") did they not exist at all when the options where traded? They did exist - BUT... there was merely a chance that they might come into existence? No.
Did the price of the items change during the game? Yope. The price of the options did, of course, change. the quantity? Yesish. if so: did the players' actions have any impact on the price? Possibly, in a yopeish way. the total available quantity of these items? No.
Or were price? Mostly. and/or quantity? Yes. completely controlled from outside the game? decided by chance? No.
Did she not win because she had options only for items in this color? No. for items in all other colors except this one? No. Only items of a certain colour were actually traded.

Relevant what color? Yes. But finding out probably won't help you much.
Was the purpose of the game to simulate the option market? b{The game was a kind of option market. The purpose of the game probably was to create fun and excitement.} to simulate a crisis in the option market? No.
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Are the items edible? Perishable?
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Are the items edible? Yes. Perishable? Not really.
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Were the items meat? dairy? other animal product? vegetable? fruit? grain-based? Mixed (something like a hamburger or spaghetti that is a mixture of foot types)? Candy? Chips? Other junk food?
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Were the items meat? dairy? other animal product? This vegetable? fruit? grain-based? Mixed (something like a hamburger or spaghetti that is a mixture of foot types)? Candy? And this Chips? Other junk food?
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Other animal product = egg? Actually the only non-meat, non-dairy animal product I can think of is egg, so I don't know why I didn't just ask egg in the first place, lol. Or is it something weird like skin? Or hair?

Candy + egg = cadbury egg?
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Other animal product = egg? No. Actually the only non-meat, non-dairy animal product I can think of is egg It contains a kind of meat product, but not meat itself. Or is it something weird like skin? Or hair? Not that weird.

Candy + egg = cadbury egg? No. What is this?
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Cadbury egg = A piece of candy that comes out for a limited time each year around Easter. People either seem to love it or are like me and are totally repulsed by it because it looks like an egg (even though it isn't). It's chocolate coated, but the inside is some white goo surrounding some yellow goo.

Sausage casings? Gravy? Gelatin?

Hmm, Jello is multi-colored. Is it Jello?
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Also, does the candy that contains the meat product? Or are they separate items?
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Sausage casings? Gravy? Gelatin? This.

Hmm, Jello is multi-colored. Is it Jello? No.
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So is it a candy that is Gelatin based? Jelly beans? Gumdrops? Those little fruit-shaped chewy candies? Marshmallow peeps? A different non-chocolate candy? A candy that does contain chocolate?

Is the candy chewy? crunchy? hard? fluffy?
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So is it a candy that is Gelatin based? Yes. Jelly beans? Gumdrops? Those little fruit-shaped chewy candies? Marshmallow peeps? A different non-chocolate candy? This. Gummy bears.

Is the candy chewy? So, well, this. crunchy? hard? fluffy?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So she's trading options on buying gummy bears? Or on buying stock in gummy bears?

Is the company trying to introduce a new color of gummy bear?
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So she's trading options on buying gummy bears? This. Or on buying stock in gummy bears?

Is the company trying to introduce a new color of gummy bear? Yope.

You have now solved two thirds of the puzzle. 1. What is the game in question? Answer: The game is trading in options on quite unusual things. 2. What kinds of things were traded in the particular game round in question? Answer: Gummy bears of a certain colour. 3. Why does the price of gummy bears of one colour differ significantly from the price of other gummy bears? Answer: still to be found...
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the price of gummy bears in this color significantly higher? significantly lower?
Does the difference in price persist in our days?
Is the price difference related to a special ingredient? to a special (more expensive) way of making these gummy bears? to the significance of the color in a particular culture?
Were the gummy bears of this color rather scarce? (because one company has a patent on them? produces them in a very limited quantity to keep the price up?)
Or, the other way round? were gummy bears in this color rather abundant? and nobody wanted to buy them?
Was the price of these gummy bears different only at the time when the option had to be fulfilled? was this due to a (one-time? unpredictable?) event?
Was the color: black? blue? red? green? yellow? white? orange? brown? pink? violet? silver? golden? a specific shade of one of these colors?
Were they coated with gold?
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Did the different gummy bear colours also have different flavours?
Markobr (Markobr)
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Was the price of gummy bears in this color significantly higher? This significantly lower?
Does the difference in price persist in our days? No.
Is the price difference related to a special ingredient? Yope. to a special (more expensive) way of making these gummy bears? No. to the significance of the color in a particular culture? No.
Were the gummy bears of this color rather scarce? Yes. (because one company has a patent on them? But no. produces them in a very limited quantity to keep the price up? Again, no.)
Or, the other way round? were gummy bears in this color rather abundant? and nobody wanted to buy them? No.
Was the price of these gummy bears different only at the time when the option had to be fulfilled? Yesish. was this due to a (one-time? Yes. unpredictable? Probably not.) event?
Was the color: black? blue? red? green? This. yellow? white? orange? brown? pink? violet? silver? golden? a specific shade of one of these colors? No. Just green gummy bears.
Were they coated with gold? No.

Did the different gummy bear colours also have different flavours? Yes, somewhat. But that's quite irrelevant.
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Did the green bears have different ingredients? Was there one ingredient that was hard to get? became very expensive? became forbidden for use in food and had to be replaced?
Did the people start to buy more green gummi bears? Did the producer change the recipe? the flavor?
Did the producer reduce the quantity of green bears in the "mix" packets? because they were thinking people don't like the green ones? so that it actually became hard to get them?
Country relevant where this took place?
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Did the green bears have different ingredients? Yes. Was there one ingredient that was hard to get? became very expensive? became forbidden for use in food and had to be replaced? YES.
Did the people start to buy more green gummi bears? Did the producer change the recipe? Yes. the flavor?
Did the producer reduce the quantity of green bears in the "mix" packets? Yes, in the sense that no green gummy bears were included for a while. because they were thinking people don't like the green ones? so that it actually became hard to get them? And that was the result - you had to find old packages.
Country relevant where this took place?
No or irrelevant to the rest. But you solved it anyway:

===== SPOILER =====

This is the story of a banker or stockbroker who participated in a game which must have been quite popular among people of her trade some decades ago. Someone would start the game by calling colleagues/friends and asking them for bid and ask quotes for some unusual item (and probably stating a delivery time). A trading period followed during which everyone would try to find out at what price the item could be obtained from (or maybe sold to) outsiders. In the game round the puzzle is about, the items in question were green gummy bears. Our participant thought she had found a cheap source for them and therefore sold lots of green gummy bears. Unfortunately for her, the colourant the main producer of gummy bears used for the green sort was found out to be carcinogenic (or otherwise unhealthy, I don't remember the details) just around that time, and the production of green gummy bears was stopped. Now the only source of green gummy bears were old packages still available in shops - quite expensive and cumbersome to find in larger quantities. So she lost money (and probably time) in this round.

I read about this in a magazine sometime in the 1990s. What I remember very well is the phrase which started the game and which I find quite pretty (Sorry, it's in German):

Was bist du Geld, was bist du Brief
in grünen Gummibärchen?

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