| Author | Message | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1246 Registered: 11-2008 |
A - You have to go and do it now, Sir. B - What, three-seven? A - These are the rules, Sir. You should know, you’ve made them. C - It’s in the small print, Sir. Ours not to reason why. B - OK, four-five. I just hope I will not have to go to the end of that quote. What's going on? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1598 Registered: 5-2003 |
This one is very intriguing? Since you didn't just give the quotes, can we assume that it is important that there are three people and not two in the conversation? Military involved? Sword-fighting? Is B a leader? supervisor? officer? Is A his subordinate? Is C? Are more than A, B, and C involved? "the end of that quote" = "Ours but to do and die?" Would B actually have to die, or is he speaking figuratively? Is he a Captain about to go down with his ship? Did B actually make the rules? Are they written into law? Is he a ruler? A lord? A legislator? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1247 Registered: 11-2008 |
This one is very intriguing? I should hope so :-)) Since you didn't just give the quotes, can we assume that it is important that there are three people and not two in the conversation? Not really; in fact, there were even more people involved Military involved? No Sword-fighting? No, not this time ;-)) Is B a leader? Yope supervisor? Yope officer? Yope Is A his subordinate? Yope Is C? Yope Are more than A, B, and C involved? Yes "the end of that quote" = "Ours but to do and die?" Exactly so, good work! Would B actually have to die No , or is he speaking figuratively? Yes, and to be absolutely honest, there is a FA Is he a Captain about to go down with his ship? No Did B actually make the rules? No Are they written into law? No Is he a ruler? Yope A lord? No A legislator? Yopishly sort of | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 832 Registered: 8-2005 |
are three-seven and four five radio call signs? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1249 Registered: 11-2008 |
are three-seven and four five radio call signs? Not really, although they can be - and were - used as an identification in a remote communication; actually, I've sneaked a look at your profile, and I am pretty sure that if you dug deep enough in your memory, you could remember what these numbers are meant to stand for :-)) | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 833 Registered: 8-2005 |
Ooh intriguing I shall have a little think about that lol | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1250 Registered: 11-2008 |
Ooh intriguing I shall have a little think about that lol Whatever you please :-)) | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 355 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was B not looking forward to doing "it"? Was it a difficult thing to do? Unpleasant? Trivial? Embarassing? Not something he normally would do? Was he required to do it? Was he required to do it at that moment? Does "in the fine print" mean that it was actually written down? Or a tradition? An expectation? A legal duty? The "fine print" = the "rules"? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1259 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was B not looking forward to doing "it"? I'd say B was looking forward to it very much; was a bit afraid, though Was it a difficult thing to do? It might have seemed so Unpleasant? Partly Trivial? Definitely not Embarassing? Perhaps; there were some embarassing moments for B which could not have been anticipated; besides that, I am certain lots of people would have found it embarrassing, but B, in general, didn't Not something he normally would do? Most certainly; and there is a FA lurking again Was he required to do it? Yes, and the same FA again Was he required to do it at that moment? yes, and the FA again Does "in the fine print" mean that it was actually written down? Or a tradition? An expectation? This is closest A legal duty? The "fine print" = the "rules"? Yes, basically | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 152 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was "it" having something done to him, rather than him doing something? Are A, B and C all HAM? I'm imagining a "conversation" between the body of a woman, and the baby inside her womb about to be born, is that relevant at all? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1264 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was "it" having something done to him, rather than him doing something? The latter, and the FA is rearing its ugly head again Are A, B and C all HAM? No, they aren't. To be more precise, in this case, all three are HA, and only A is M. However, it is not so relevant, it would have worked perfectly if they were all HAMs I'm imagining a "conversation" between the body of a woman, and the baby inside her womb about to be born, is that relevant at all? Great lateral idea, but no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 851 Registered: 7-2009 |
Investigating the FA: The puzzle statement says "you're going to have to go and do it now, sir" The FA seems to be about the meaning of "do it." Correct? Does "do it now" mean "go now"? Could the puzzle statement have said "you're going to have to go now, sir" and meant the same thing as it does now? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1268 Registered: 11-2008 |
Investigating the FA: The puzzle statement says "you're going to have to go and do it now, sir" Yes, it does The FA seems to be about the meaning of "do it." Correct? Sorry but No. If you go through the last post I answered before your question, you will probably find out what the FA was Does "do it now" mean "go now"? Basically, yes Could the puzzle statement have said "you're going to have to go now, sir" and meant the same thing as it does now? Reckon so | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 856 Registered: 7-2009 |
Oh, was the FA just that "Sir" was male? Is the end of the quote "do and die"? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1270 Registered: 11-2008 |
Oh, was the FA just that "Sir" was male? Yes, just this Is the end of the quote "do and die"? Exactly so | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 862 Registered: 7-2009 |
Do the numbers represent people? Is A "three-seven," for example? Or do the numbers represent code for something else? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1273 Registered: 11-2008 |
Do the numbers represent people? Yes Is A "three-seven," for example? Yes - A is "three-seven" and C is "four-five" Or do the numbers represent code for something else? No | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 396 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is there also a number representing B? Is there a person who assigns the numbers to all of the people? Or an organisation? Or do they choose their numbers themselves Remote communication: By telephone? Telegraph? Mail? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1284 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is there also a number representing B? Yes; actually, it is Alpha 1 Is there a person who assigns the numbers to all of the people? Yes Or an organisation? Not in this case Or do they choose their numbers themselves Yesish Remote communication: By telephone? This Telegraph? Mail? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 923 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did someone in the group receive a phone call? A? B? C? Did someone have to go make a phone call? A? B? C? Did the group receive information that arrived by telephone? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 401 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does B assign the numbers? A? C? Are (some of) the sentences in the puzzle statement spoken into a telephone/telephones? If some but not all sentences - which ones? Are A and B communicating directly (as opposed to remotely) with each other? A and C? B and C? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1286 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did someone in the group receive a phone call? A? B? C? Did someone have to go make a phone call? A? B? C? Did the group receive information that arrived by telephone? The whole stuff about telephones is quite irrelevant. Any of the three have possibly communicated among themselves by telephone using their code numbers but it was not at the time the conversation from our puzzle statement. So you should basically forget about telephones, it would be misleading Does B assign the numbers? This A? C? Are (some of) the sentences in the puzzle statement spoken into a telephone/telephones? If some but not all sentences - which ones? Are A and B communicating directly (as opposed to remotely) with each other? A and C? B and C? As above - in what is relevant to our puzzle, A,B and C are communicating directly. I mentioned the telephone because I was answering a question, but it would be misleading for you to follow this track. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 967 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is B higher in rank than A? Than C? Is B their supervisor? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1287 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is B higher in rank than A? Than C? Is B their supervisor? Yope to all | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 989 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was B higher in rank than A and C at one point? Was he demoted? Promoted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 285 Registered: 9-2009 |
Based on a real event? Science fiction? FYOI? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1292 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was B higher in rank than A and C at one point? Yesish Was he demoted? Promoted? Neither Based on a real event? This Science fiction? FYOI? and there is a bit of this-ish | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 348 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they at work? Is "it" part of Alpha 1's job? Space relevant? Is there a good reason why they use call signs instead of names? Do they know each other's names? Relevant? Era relevant? Location? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1335 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they at work? No Is "it" part of Alpha 1's job? Yope Space relevant? Space - in what sense? Is there a good reason why they use call signs instead of names? Depends of your definition of "good". It is sufficiently good for them. Do they know each other's names? Yes Relevant? Yes Era relevant? Yesish Location? No | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 429 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is the "Outer Space" outside the atmosphere relevant? Do they not want other people to know their names, hence using call signs? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1337 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the "Outer Space" outside the atmosphere relevant? Not at all Do they not want other people to know their names, hence using call signs? No, this is not the reason. | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 444 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are they playing a game? Doing some other kind of hobby? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1339 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they playing a game? Yes! Doing some other kind of hobby? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 370 Registered: 9-2009 |
Truth or dare, or similar? Is what Alpha 1 has to do (part of) a dare? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1346 Registered: 11-2008 |
Truth or dare, or similar? Not really Is what Alpha 1 has to do (part of) a dare? Not in the sense of the truth/dare game; however, it is true that who dares wins ;-)) | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 442 Registered: 3-2004 |
Computers relevant? Computer games? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1347 Registered: 11-2008 |
Computers relevant? Computer games? Neither | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1022 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a role-playing game? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1348 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it a role-playing game? Sort of. However it is not officially defined such as LARPs or so, so there would be no point trying to search in role-playing games dictionary Now we need to find out what roles A, B and C are playing, and what is B required to do. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1023 Registered: 7-2009 |
It sounds like B is in charge? And B wrote the rules of the game? But now B is stuck doing something he doesn't want to do? Which might kill his character? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1350 Registered: 11-2008 |
It sounds like B is in charge? Yes indeed And B wrote the rules of the game? Yes but... But now B is stuck doing something he doesn't want to do? It might seem so; however, we have already established that B is, in fact, looking forward to it, yet a bit afraid Which might kill his character? It is not likely that A and C would go this far ;-)) | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 446 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hand-to-hand combat involved? Like Fight Club? Are they playing out a historical event? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1351 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hand-to-hand combat involved? Yes, it is a part of what B is required to do Like Fight Club? Not sure what you mean Are they playing out a historical event? Not exactly but very much OTRT | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1661 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they playing a wargame? Do three-seven and four-five refer to units, or something else that A and C are playing as? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1374 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they playing a wargame? If I understand correctly what a wargame is, then the answer is Not exactly, but it is definitely getting very warm. Do three-seven and four-five refer to units, or something else that A and C are playing as? They refer to sort of A's and C's personal identification numbers | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1664 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they playing a simulation? Perhaps of the Charge of the Light Brigade? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 484 Registered: 3-2004 |
Are A, B and C competing against each other? competing together against some other people? or just trying to do something that has no "winner"? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1375 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they playing a simulation? Sort of Perhaps of the Charge of the Light Brigade? But not this Are A, B and C competing against each other? No competing together against some other people? Not really or just trying to do something that has no "winner"? I'd say rather something that has "all winners." | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1672 Registered: 5-2003 |
Competing together against a computer? Will they learn something regardless of the results? Is their experience educational? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1379 Registered: 11-2008 |
Competing together against a computer? Neither competing nor against a computer Will they learn something regardless of the results? Probably but not so relevant Is their experience educational? No | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 490 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is this something they do of their own free will? for fun? or do they need to do it? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1382 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is this something they do of their own free will? Yes for fun? Yes or do they need to do it? No | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 493 Registered: 3-2004 |
Are there any people watching them? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1390 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are there any people watching them? at the moment the conversation takes place? yes | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1697 Registered: 5-2003 |
Could this story actually happen? Did this story actually happen? Are the people watching them relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1392 Registered: 11-2008 |
Could this story actually happen? See below Did this story actually happen? Definitely Are the people watching them relevant? Yes | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 314 Registered: 10-2006 |
So these guys are doing live role playing? And the rules of the game require B to do something at this point? And B makes the impression of not being aware of this rule? And A and C see fit to inform him/her about it? But they do it sort of in a halfways "in-role" sort of way (i.e. still sticking to their role-play names, and "in-game hierarchical relations" ("Sir" etc.))? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1394 Registered: 11-2008 |
So these guys are doing live role playing? Sort of And the rules of the game require B to do something at this point? Not really And B makes the impression of not being aware of this rule? B is not aware of any such rule And A and C see fit to inform him/her about it? Yes but there is more to it But they do it sort of in a halfways "in-role" sort of way (i.e. still sticking to their role-play names, and "in-game hierarchical relations" ("Sir" etc.))? All of them are acting "in-role" all the way I know that is getting a bit tangled. Perhaps a HINT might help - as we said, B is the head of the game, and as such, she had invented the rules of the game; however, the game is simulating something which has its own rules | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1721 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they trying to simulate a historical event? Or a potential event? Or alternate history? Do things have to play out a certain way? For some other reason besides history? Is each player representing something? A military unit? A country? A specific person? Some other group? Is B essentially the referee of the game? Does he have to run the game as well as play in it? Does this game require impartiality on his part? Are A, B, and C playing as a team, or are they in adversarial relationships? Are they simulating war? Economics? Politics? Evolution? Are they observed by an audience? One that has a stake in what they are doing? Science-fiction or fantasy relevant? Are they using computers? A board of some sort? Dice? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1396 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they trying to simulate a historical event? No Or a potential event? No Or alternate history? No Do things have to play out a certain way? Yes For some other reason besides history? Yes HINT: They are simulating a story someone else invented before them; I am unable to tell from your profile for sure but it is pretty likely you know the story Is each player representing something? Yes A military unit? A country? A specific person? Partly this Some other group? ...and this Is B essentially the referee of the game? I'd rather say its almost absolute ruler - something like the Dungeon Master in Dungeons and Dragons Does he have to run the game as well as play in it? Yes indeed Does this game require impartiality on his part? No Are A, B, and C playing as a team This, or are they in adversarial relationships? Are they simulating war? No but worth exploring Economics? Politics? Evolution? Are they observed by an audience? Yes One that has a stake in what they are doing? Yes indeed Science-fiction or fantasy relevant? No Are they using computers? A board of some sort? Dice? No - it's all live | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 518 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is it some kind of game-show on TV? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1397 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it some kind of game-show Not exactly this... on TV? ...but definitely this | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1119 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a reality show? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1398 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it a reality show? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1748 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they actors? Reenactors? Playing roles in a series? A historical series? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1399 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they actors? No Reenactors? This is very close Playing roles in a series? Let us say they are reenacting roles once played by someone else in a series A historical series? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1763 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they roleplaying as fictional characters? As historical characters? Are they reenacting a movie or television scene? For example, are they Star Trek gamers? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1400 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they roleplaying as fictional characters? Yes As historical characters? No Are they reenacting a movie or television scene? Exactly so For example, are they Star Trek gamers? but not this | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1155 Registered: 7-2009 |
What is the genre of the scene they are reenacting: sci-fi? historical? drama? military? fantasy? martial arts? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1776 Registered: 5-2003 |
On another tack: Are the lines they speak assigned to them? Are they acting out a scene at the time? Are they speaking "in character" or "out of character?" | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1401 Registered: 11-2008 |
What is the genre of the scene they are reenacting: sci-fi? historical? drama? military? fantasy? martial arts? This is the closest On another tack: Are the lines they speak assigned to them? Are they acting out a scene at the time? Are they speaking "in character" or "out of character?" They are sort of improvising but definitely "in character" | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 593 Registered: 3-2004 |
Re-enacting scenes from a movie? Asian movie? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1403 Registered: 11-2008 |
Re-enacting scenes from a movie? The puzzle statement describes a situation when they are about to reenact a scene from a movie; to be more precise, a second introduction of a specific well-known series Asian movie? No | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 603 Registered: 3-2004 |
Star Wars: The Clone Wars? Fringe? Sanctuary? V? Rush? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1405 Registered: 11-2008 |
Star Wars: The Clone Wars? Fringe? Sanctuary? V? Rush? Neither - nothing supranatural involved | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 618 Registered: 3-2004 |
Then I have little knowledge of TV series... "Second introduction of a series" - does that mean that it's the second year it's aired? or that the series has not been shown for some years and now start again (like is the case for V)? is it a remake of an old series? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1406 Registered: 11-2008 |
Then I have little knowledge of TV series... I am pretty sure it was broadcast in Sweden; I am however not sure when; the series itself is about 30 years old "Second introduction of a series" - does that mean that it's the second year it's aired? or that the series has not been shown for some years and now start again (like is the case for V)? is it a remake of an old series? This means there was a main intro with the opening titles of the series which was mostly used throughout it, but there was also another one which was used only for a few episodes | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 623 Registered: 3-2004 |
I just mis-interpreted the meaning of "second introduction"... A war series? western? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1407 Registered: 11-2008 |
I just mis-interpreted the meaning of "second introduction"... Probably my fault, not yours ;-)) A war series? No but not so far away western? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1843 Registered: 5-2003 |
Cold war? Action? Police actions? Spies involved? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1408 Registered: 11-2008 |
Cold war? A lot of times this was involved Action? Yes indeed Police actions? Not exactly police but very close Spies involved? very much so | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 630 Registered: 3-2004 |
Mission Impossible? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1409 Registered: 11-2008 |
Mission Impossible? No | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1168 Registered: 7-2009 |
Charlie's Angels? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1411 Registered: 11-2008 |
Charlie's Angels? you mean the 1976 version? No but very much OTRT. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1873 Registered: 5-2003 |
This is now sounding familiar, but I can't come up with it. Anything to do with James Bond? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1186 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is Charlie's Angel's on the right track ... Because it's about a group of women? Because of the genre of tv show? Because of when it was made? Because quasi-martial arts are involved? Because of a particular actor? Director? Writer? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1413 Registered: 11-2008 |
This is now sounding familiar, but I can't come up with it. Anything to do with James Bond? Yes, the topic is very similar. And a very lateral leap - the actor representing our A in the series was up to the role of Bond but did not succeed | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1893 Registered: 5-2003 |
Does B have a number? Is it lower than 37? Is that relevant? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1207 Registered: 7-2009 |
You missed my last set of questions. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1417 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is Charlie's Angel's on the right track ... Because it's about a group of women? Definitely not Because of the genre of tv show? This is the closest Because of when it was made? Sort of Because quasi-martial arts are involved? Sort of Because of a particular actor? Director? Writer? Don't think so (I must confess I have never seen this version of Charlie's Angels; I cannot exclude some of those you mentioned worked on both films but I am too lazy to google and compare as this would be quite irrelevant for the puzzle anyway.) Does B have a number? Yes Is it lower than 37? Not really; in the series, he is sometimes referred to as Alpha One Is that relevant? If you were a fan of the series, it would be immediately clear :-)) You missed my last set of questions. Actually, I did not see your questions on the screen when I was answering Jenburdoo's. I do not know why this happens but it is not for the first time. Sorry for that, anyway. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1419 Registered: 11-2008 |
As to B, he also sometimes answers to "Alpha Charlie" :-)) | ||
| Sunset1123 (Sunset1123)
New member Username: Sunset1123 Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2009 |
Fortune Hunter? Not 30 years old, but otrt? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1423 Registered: 11-2008 |
Fortune Hunter? Not 30 years old, but otrt? Never seen that, but I did a bit of googling, and according to the description, you are OTRT in the sense that there are two partners working on dangerous assignments. Unlike Fortune Hunter, however, our series is not based on hi-tech gadgets (but there are a lot of speedy cars and sometimes sophisticated weaponry) and both partners work physically together. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1990 Registered: 5-2003 |
Mythbusters? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1424 Registered: 11-2008 |
Mythbusters? No (if you mean the Jamie Hyneman show. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1429 Registered: 7-2009 |
Dragnet? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1425 Registered: 11-2008 |
Dragnet? Sorry, but No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 388 Registered: 9-2008 |
I mention this because it matches the description - but not sure how it fits into the overall puzzle: Was it The Avengers? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1448 Registered: 11-2008 |
I mention this because it matches the description - but not sure how it fits into the overall puzzle: Was it The Avengers? No. However, you are getting much warmer - I daresay one baby step from getting the right name of the series. There are many aspects The Avengers have in common with our series. | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 1064 Registered: 3-2004 |
I don't know TV series from that time, one that's even earlier is The Persuaders...? Instead of guessing, let's go on asking... Does the series have one main character? two? three? four? more? Are the main characters on the right side of the law? wrong? both? Is it an American series? did it last for many seasons? just 3? 2? 1? Is the series taking place in New York? California? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1462 Registered: 11-2008 |
I don't know TV series from that time, one that's even earlier is The Persuaders...? It's not the Persuaders; I think, however, it was re-broadcast even later, and it was really VERY popular all over the world. Instead of guessing, let's go on asking... Excellent idea. Does the series have one main character? two? three? This four? more? Are the main characters on the right side of the law? wrong? both? On the right side, of course :-)) Is it an American series? No did it last for many seasons? just 3? 2? 1? 5 Is the series taking place in New York? California? Neither | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 1071 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is it a British series? from another European country? Were the three main characters all men? two men? one man? all women? Did they work for a government agency? an existing one? or a made-up one? MI5? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1465 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it a British series? Yes indeed from another European country? Were the three main characters all men? This two men? one man? all women? Did they work for a government agency? Yes an existing one? or a made-up one? This MI5? No but VERY close | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 1072 Registered: 3-2004 |
The man from U.N.C.L.E? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1467 Registered: 11-2008 |
The man from U.N.C.L.E? Afraid not. The fictitional organisation, however, was very similar to MI5 | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 1075 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is it an acronym like MI-5, MI-6 and SIS are? maybe MI-13? UNIT? Are these "good guys" mainly dealing with spies? military spies? corporate spies? criminals? are they themselves spies? Could the show be "The Sandbaggers"? "Secret Agent"? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1468 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it an acronym like MI-5, MI-6 and SIS are? maybe MI-13? UNIT? Yes, it is an acronym. Actually, you just have to change one of the letters in one of the acronyms you quoted Are these "good guys" mainly dealing with spies? Very often, yes military spies? Sometimes corporate spies? I think they did once criminals? Quite often, too are they themselves spies? No, at least not officially Could the show be "The Sandbaggers"? "Secret Agent"? Neither, sorry | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2051 Registered: 5-2003 |
Do we really have to get the title of the series? I'm not knowledgeable about TV. Are the characters actors on the TV show, or are they imitating the show? Are they doing fan fiction? Or a sequel? Are they performing on stage, radio, or something else? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1502 Registered: 11-2008 |
Do we really have to get the title of the series? I'm not knowledgeable about TV. Not sure. It would definitely help a lot, however. Are the characters actors on the TV show,No or are they imitating the show? This, in a specific way Are they doing fan fiction? Or a sequel? No Are they performing on stage, radio, or something else? Whatever they do, it is not for public or commercial use HINT: I am positive you have already communicated with B | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 181 Registered: 12-2008 |
I presume the TV series is "The Professionals" | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1504 Registered: 11-2008 |
I presume the TV series is "The Professionals" Spot on. It is, indeed, "The Professionals" Now - what are the whole lot up to? | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 184 Registered: 12-2008 |
OK - teenage memories of watching Bodie and Doyle do their macho thing; compulsive viewing until I got fed up with the unremitting gung-ho. So A and C are Bodie and Doyle, and B is ... played by Gordon what's-his-name... begins with a C... it'll come back to me :-) Anyway, they are about to reenact the secondary introduction used in some episodes; does it involve speeding cars? helicopters? guns? other road vehicles? explosions? all of these (wouldn't surprise me!)? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1511 Registered: 11-2008 |
OK - teenage memories of watching Bodie and Doyle do their macho thing; compulsive viewing until I got fed up with the unremitting gung-ho. So A and C are Bodie and Doyle, Yes, respectively and B is ... played by Gordon what's-his-name... begins with a C... it'll come back to me :-) Gordon Jackson, actually ;-)) Anyway, they are about to reenact the secondary introduction used in some episodes; does it involve speeding cars? helicopters? guns? other road vehicles? explosions? all of these (wouldn't surprise me!)? The second introduction does include a car; however, the reenactment involves other things than this | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 185 Registered: 12-2008 |
Yes - Gordon Jackson played Cowley (that was the C I was trying to remember) So does the embarrassment referred to earlier occur because B in the reenactment is female, and she has to do something originally performed by Gordon Jackson, who was male? All I can remember him doing is making phone calls from flash cars, giving orders, and the opening credit where the three of them are walking purposefully towards the camera. Is B actually about to reenact a Gordon Jackson role? Do they have to switch roles? Does she have to do something involving physical combat? Throwing herself on the ground? Driving quickly? Running quickly? Climbing a wall? or a rope? or a fence? Does she have to imitate his Scottish accent? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1514 Registered: 11-2008 |
Yes - Gordon Jackson played Cowley (that was the C I was trying to remember) :-)) This happens to me all the time So does the embarrassment referred to earlier occur because B in the reenactment is female, and she has to do something originally performed by Gordon Jackson, who was male? No All I can remember him doing is making phone calls from flash cars, giving orders, Well, this was what B initially planned to do, but... and the opening credit where the three of them are walking purposefully towards the camera. Is B actually about to reenact a Gordon Jackson role? DOYD, I'd say she's about to take over Cowley's role Do they have to switch roles? No Does she have to do something involving physical combat? Yes indeed Throwing herself on the ground? Yes! Driving quickly? No Running quickly? Yes Climbing a wall? or a rope? or a fence? No but she almost did have to Does she have to imitate his Scottish accent? No :-)) VERY good questions. Now it would help to find out who B is, and on what occasion they are doing all this | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 186 Registered: 12-2008 |
Is B's age relevant? or the relative ages of A B and C? Is what B is wearing relevant? Are A B and C well known in their own right? Are they indoors or outdoors at this time? Are they involved in some sort of party game? Charades? Are forfeits involved? Is anyone videoing this? Would it help to work out the series of physical activities? 1. Jumping out of car? 2. Running fast 3. Physical combat? 4. Throw oneself onto the ground? Are imitation weapons involved? Heights? Climbing anything? Jumping off anything? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1516 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is B's age relevant? Age as such is very much relevant, yet there is no need to know B's exact age or the relative ages of A B and C? No Is what B is wearing relevant? No Are A B and C well known in their own right? Neither of them is famous Are they indoors or outdoors This at this time? Are they involved in some sort of party game? This is VERY close Charades? Like acting and guessing? No Are forfeits involved? No Is anyone videoing this? Yes indeed Would it help to work out the series of physical activities? Not really; actually, it was 2, 4, 3 but not really relevant 1. Jumping out of car? 2. Running fast 3. Physical combat? 4. Throw oneself onto the ground? Are imitation weapons involved? Yes Heights? Climbing anything? Jumping off anything? No to rest | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 187 Registered: 12-2008 |
Is B older than you would expect to be involved in this (not being ageist, but, for most of us, there comes a time when throwing oneself to the ground carries enhanced risk of physical injury, and the time taken to pull oneself up again is such that other participants have time to relax, have a nice cup of tea...) Is B is a Grandmother and her grandchildren are watching? The video is a family video? a birthday video? (ah - is the occasion B's birthday? A or C's?) | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1517 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is B older than you would expect to be involved in this (not being ageist, but, for most of us, there comes a time when throwing oneself to the ground carries enhanced risk of physical injury, and the time taken to pull oneself up again is such that other participants have time to relax, have a nice cup of tea...That's so much true ;-)) but as for our puzzle, it's irrelevant ) Is B is a Grandmother and her grandchildren are watching? No but OTRT The video is a family video? Not strictly a family video but very close a birthday video? Yes! (ah - is the occasion B's birthday? and Yes again! A or C's? No) | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 188 Registered: 12-2008 |
OK - so it's B's birthday, and as part of her birthday celebrations she has persuaded some friends to take part in a reenactment of opening credits from 'The Professionals', in which she takes the part of George Cowley. (Was it originally intended that she take this role? Or was she directing the scene?) In the course of this reenactment, which is being videoed, she suddenly realises (or is informed by the players taking the roles of Bodie and Doyle) that she also has to run, throw herself to the ground, then engage in (hand-to-hand?) combat. Is the identity of the person with whom she has to fight relevant? Are we to try and establish the changed circumstances that mean she must take a more active role? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1518 Registered: 11-2008 |
OK - so it's B's birthday, and as part of her birthday celebrations she has persuaded some friends to take part in a reenactment Yes of opening credits No from 'The Professionals', in which she takes the part of George Cowley Yes. (Was it originally intended that she take this role? Yes Or was she directing the scene? Not this exact scene, but...) In the course of this reenactment, which is being videoed, she suddenly realises (or is informed by the players taking the roles of Bodie and Doyle Yes) that she also has to run, throw herself to the ground, then engage in (hand-to-hand?) combat Yes. Is the identity of the person with whom she has to fight relevant? No Are we to try and establish the changed circumstances that mean she must take a more active role? Yes - in fact, this is the last thing you have to establish. And beware of the fact you were really very close in the first part of this set of your questions but still not exactly there | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 189 Registered: 12-2008 |
They are reenacting more than one scene from the Professionals? These scenes have been chosen in advance? Chosen by more than one person? Was B under the same mistaken impression as I was: that Cowley only had to play the controlling role? And one of the other participants found a scene in which Cowley had to be more like Bodie and Doyle? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1519 Registered: 11-2008 |
They are reenacting more than one scene from the Professionals? Yesish - I'd rather say they are doing something in the general spirit of The Professionals rather than reenacting an actual scene from the series These scenes have been chosen in advance? Yes Chosen by more than one person? No Was B under the same mistaken impression as I was: that Cowley only had to play the controlling role? Yes And one of the other participants found a scene in which Cowley had to be more like Bodie and Doyle? Exactly so. You are already very close to the solution. | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 190 Registered: 12-2008 |
Is it relevant that there were two different introductions to the series? Did B think they would act out Intro 1, but was tricked into playing Intro 2? Is it relevant who chose the scenes to be acted? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1522 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is it relevant that there were two different introductions to the series? Not really - the first one is not relevant at all Did B think they would act out Intro 1, but was tricked into playing Intro 2? No - in fact she had no idea about any of the Intros being acted Is it relevant who chose the scenes to be acted? Yes | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 191 Registered: 12-2008 |
Was it A who chose the scenes? C? Is the family relationship between B and the person who chose the scenes relevant? Did B know the nature of the TV programme "The Professionals" before this day? Was there a mistaken assumption because Gordon Jackson was the actor (oh, that nice Scottish chap from Upstairs Downstairs) | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1523 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was it A who chose the scenes? C? Neither Is the family relationship between B and the person who chose the scenes relevant? FA Did B know the nature of the TV programme "The Professionals" before this day? Yes Was there a mistaken assumption because Gordon Jackson was the actor (oh, that nice Scottish chap from Upstairs Downstairs) ... and the tough guy showing his teeth in the Professionals :-)) But the answer is No | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 192 Registered: 12-2008 |
So did B choose the scenes? And she intended that she would take on the Gordon Jackson role? And even so, she was surprised when she was told that she would have to take an active part in the fight scene. Did she think there was another character involved in this scene? Is this linked to the different call names used by Cowley? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1527 Registered: 11-2008 |
So did B choose the scenes? Yes; remember what was said above - that B is a sort of a Dungeon Master in Dungeons and Dragons And she intended that she would take on the Gordon Jackson role? She actually just took it, without asking And even so, she was surprised when she was told that she would have to take an active part in the fight scene. Yes; remember that Cowley himself rarely is as physically active as his younger agents Did she think there was another character involved in this scene? No Is this linked to the different call names used by Cowley? No Almost got it! | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 193 Registered: 12-2008 |
So in the course of this game, did she give an instruction? - something like "and now all the characters who take part in the fight scenes have to ..." - and it was pointed out that Cowley was one of those characters. If not that precise instruction, is the idea that she gave an instruction that she did not intend to include her, but in fact did? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1529 Registered: 11-2008 |
So in the course of this game, did she give an instruction? - something like "and now all the characters who take part in the fight scenes have to ..." - and it was pointed out that Cowley was one of those characters. No, not exactly this If not that precise instruction, is the idea that she gave an instruction that she did not intend to include her, but in fact did? Yes, this was the general idea I think you have guessed enough for me to publish the *****************SPOILER*************** This puzzle is based on the celebration of my birthday. So B, actually, is yours truly :-))). It is a long-time habit in the group of my friends that whoever has his/her birthday, selects a general topic (we already had e.g. the Greek mythology, a Caribbean island (in one of the coldest Februaries I've ever lived, a classical theatre performance and so on and so on…) and the rest play pranks on him/her in the spirit of the topic chosen. For my last birthday, I decided to make the celebration bigger than usual, and selected The Professionals as the topic. There were about 20 participants, half of them adults and half children. The adults were appointed CI5 agents, and the children police officers. Each of them received an ID card with his/her number and photograph, and they were divided in pairs – each agent was paired with a policeman. They were told to meet at a certain place and then a worried Cowley appeared telling them that a bank has just been robbed and that they had to find the precious jewels and certain documents compromising the Royal family (I sort of borrowed the plot from Paul Sloane’s puzzle Ambulance Chaser and the film Bank Job, which was made after a true story). They had to find the correct GPS coordinates and locate the spoliated treasure, and of course Cowley pointed out that the robbers are very dangerous, armed and can emerge at any point. The coordinates were found and we were moving towards our target, when A, aka Bodie, aka three-seven – my husband, and C – aka Doyle, four-five - my friend – told me that all the CI5 members have to undergo tough physical tests – as I must know because, as its founder, I made the rules. So Mr Cowley had to crawl in mud, throw knives, shoot at a moving target, disarm two attackers (the three latter unselfishly impersonated by three other friends) and make her way through several punchbags, while my time was measured – everything as close as possible as in the alternative Pros intro. Fortunately, I did not have to jump through the window panes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RV0sLibbwI&feature=related . No wonder that at the beginning, I was not sure whether I was going to survive ;-) Fortunately, I passed the test and off we went towards the target of our mission, which was an abandoned old house. After entering with our guns ready, my subordinates ;-)) had to defuse a bomb, and luckily found both the jewels and the compromising materials. Then a messenger from the Queen arrived, bringing a big CI5 cake, medals and a personal thank-you letter from Her Majesty. Thank you all for participating in this puzzle, and specially Oisin for getting it right! | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 195 Registered: 12-2008 |
And is there a you tube video of you running the gauntlet? : - ) Thank you for an entertaining puzzle - it brought back memories (albeit slowly and piecemeal) of watching Martin Shaw and Lewis Collins shooting everything that moved - diplomacy was never their strong point. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1531 Registered: 11-2008 |
Not publicly available, I am afraid - I am quite shy ;-). Although it must have been fun, to see the Big Boss of the day wallowing in mud ;-)) ) Actually, Bodie and Doyle were my teenage crush. I preferred Bodie a tad but would definitely not refuse Doyle :-)) And, all in all, who cares for diplomacy? |
