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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He followed directions, and injured himself.

He=him, and he is H/A/M.
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Were the directions meant to injure? If so, to injure him? Did he follow directional instructions from a GPS, and had an accident?
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Were the directions meant to injure? If so, to injure him? Did he follow directional instructions from a GPS, and had an accident? No to all.
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Did he injure anyone else? Did he damage anything besides himself? Were the directions wrong? Incomplete? Not intended for what he was doing? Was he using an object? Were the directions on how to get somewhere? How to use something? How to avoid injury? What not to do? Did he misinterpret the directions? His profession relevant?
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Did he injure anyone else? No. Did he damage anything besides himself? No. Were the directions wrong? Incomplete? This. Not intended for what he was doing? Correct. Was he using an object? No. Were the directions on how to get somewhere? No. How to use something? No. How to avoid injury? No. What not to do? Yes. Did he misinterpret the directions? Yope. His profession relevant? Yes.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oopsie...

Were the directions on how to get somewhere? Yope.
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Were the directions where not to go? to avoid a specific place? a place outdoors? indoors?
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Were the directions where not to go? Yes. to avoid a specific place? Yes. a place outdoors? This. indoors?
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Oops - you forgot the [Jenburdoo]...

Were the area to avoid ambiguously described? or smaller than it should have been? or defined wrong - pointed to another place?
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Natural hazards relevant? Man-made? Was the area hazardous only at this specific time, at certain specific times, under certain specific conditions, or always?
Was his injury from:
Heat? Cold? Pressure change? Fall? Impact? Other physical trauma? Radiation? Gas? Poison? Infectious agents? Light? Noise?
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Is any sort of accident relevant?
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Where did he get the directions from?
A person? A sign? In the media? A device? Amidst the smoke in his crystal ball?

Weather relevant? Natural disasters? Man-made disasters?
Was he told to go to this place because it was dangerous?
Would other people be advised not to go there?
Did he know why he shouldn't have gone there?
Is he a living breathing person?
Were the directions actual directions that told him to go somewhere?
Was he detouring around the place?
Any other people involved? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5+? 100+?
Era relevant?
Physical location relevant?
Political location relevant?
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Were the area to avoid ambiguously described? No. or smaller than it should have been? No. or defined wrong - pointed to another place? No.

Natural hazards relevant? No. Man-made? Yes. Was the area hazardous only at this specific time, This. at certain specific times, under certain specific conditions, and this. or always?
Was his injury from:
Heat? Cold? Pressure change? Fall? This. Impact? And consequently this. Other physical trauma? Radiation? Gas? Poison? Infectious agents? Light? Noise?

Is any sort of accident relevant? Yes.

Where did he get the directions from?
A person? This. A sign? In the media? A device? Amidst the smoke in his crystal ball?

Weather relevant? No. Natural disasters? No. Man-made disasters? For svv of disaster.
Was he told to go to this place because it was dangerous? No.
Would other people be advised not to go there? Yes.
Did he know why he shouldn't have gone there? Once he did, yes.
Is he a living breathing person? Yes.
Were the directions actual directions that told him to go somewhere? Yope.
Was he detouring around the place? No.
Any other people involved? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5+? 100+? Several hundred, exact number irrelevant.
Era relevant? Yes.
Physical location relevant? Yes.
Political location relevant? Yes.
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Century: 21st? 20th? 19th? 18th? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? Less?
Political location:
Asia?
Africa?
South America?
North America?
Europe?
Australia?
Physical Location:
Bodies of water? (Lakes, rivers, oceans, etc.)
Mountains?
Deserts?
Rainforests?
Forests?
Arctics?
Jungles?
Other?
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Road relevant? Roadwork?
Did he get his information from a person whose work was to give information?
National Park relevant?
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Century: 21st? 20th? This. 19th? 18th? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? Less?
Political location:
Asia?
Africa?
South America?
North America?
Europe? This.
Australia?

Physical Location:
Bodies of water? (Lakes, rivers, oceans, etc.)
Mountains?
Deserts?
Rainforests?
Forests?
Arctics?
Jungles?
Other? Temperate zone.

Road relevant? Yes. Roadwork? Not at the time.
Did he get his information from a person whose work was to give information? No.
National Park relevant? No.
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Cpunties in Europe:
Albania? Andorra? Austria? Belarus? Belgium?
Bosnia and Herzegovina? Bulgaria?
Croatia? Cyprus? Czech Republic? Denmark?
Estonia? Finland? France? Germany?
Greece? Hungary? Iceland? Ireland?
Italy? Latvia? Liechtenstein? Lithuania?
Luxembourg? Macedonia?
Malta? Moldova? Monaco? Netherlands?
Norway? Poland? Portugal? Romania? Russia? San Marino?
Serbia and Montenegro? Slovakia (Slovak Republic)?
Slovenia? Spain? Sweden? Switzerland?
Turkey? Ukraine? United Kingdom? Vatican City?
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France.
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Bridge out?
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Bridge out? No.
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Is it relevant in which part of France this happens (geographically)? at the coast? in the mountains? in a city?
Was he walking? in a car? driving a car? otherwise travelling on a road?
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Is it relevant in which part of France this happens (geographically)? No. at the coast? in the mountains? in a city?
Was he walking? This. in a car? driving a car? otherwise travelling on a road?
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is it relivant in which way he was walking?
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is it relivant in which way he was walking? The direction is irrelevant, but there are other "ways" to walk which could be considered relevant.
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Would someone watching "him" see something strange about him?
If someone had watched just before he was injured, is it reasonable to expect that person calling out a warning? or was it not obvious that he would become injured?
Was he drunk? sick? for some other reason having problems walking "normally"?
Did he walk "normally" - just "in another way"?
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Would someone watching "him" see something strange about him? No.
If someone had watched just before he was injured, is it reasonable to expect that person calling out a warning? Yes... or was it not obvious that he would become injured? ...but he probably wouldn't have had time to call out a warning.
Was he drunk? sick? for some other reason having problems walking "normally"? No to all.
Did he walk "normally" - just "in another way"? He walked in a particular and specific way, which is considered normal for certain people under certain circumstances.
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Blooper Alert designed to move the puzzle along:

He walked in a particular and specific way, which is considered normal for people in his profession.
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Did he work in academic studies?
In health services?
In physical labour?
With people? Animals? Machines?
Did he clean? Cook? Perform? Make?
Did he work in an office? Holy building? Factory? Company? House? Building? The outdoors?
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Did he work in academic studies? No.
In health services? No.
In physical labour? Occasionally.
With people? This, mostly. Animals? Machines? This to an extent.
Did he clean? Cook? Perform? Make? None of the above.
Did he work in an office? Holy building? Factory? Company? House? Building? The outdoors? Primarily this.
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Did he work with children? Older people? People with special needs? Random people?
Is he self-employed?
Or is he employed by someone else?
Is the profession dangerous?
Does he work with other people with the same profession as him? Does he work with the public? Do people pay money to him?
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Did he work with children? Older people? People with special needs? Random people?
Is he self-employed? None of the above.
Or is he employed by someone else? Yes.
Is the profession dangerous? Yes.
Does he work with other people with the same profession as him? Yes. Does he work with the public? No. Do people pay money to him? That happens with just about every job, doesn't it?
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Is he walking very slow? carefully? sneaking?
Dangerous animals relevant? mines? other military equipment?
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Is he walking very slow? carefully? Definitely not. sneaking?
Dangerous animals relevant? mines? other military equipment? Plain ol' no to the rest.
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Is he a soldier? marching? in step?
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Is he a soldier? marching? in step? Yes to all.

Recap: A French soldier is marching outdoors. He follows instructions, falls and injures himself. Manmade hazards are involved.


BTW, here are some slight BLOOPERS:

Were the area to avoid ambiguously described? Yesish. or smaller than it should have been? No. or defined wrong - pointed to another place? Noish.
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Are we in WWI? WWII? During a battle? In a company of soldiers on march?

Is it during an attack? Is he marching very fast?

Was he shot down? By a bullet? By an explosion? grenade splitter? cannon ball? Or was he injured by someone else by another means? By a sharp pointy thing? Like a bayonet? Was he injured by an object? Barby wire?

Or does he just fall for another reason? Into a hole?
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The instructions that he got, were they military orders? from his superiors? Or were they orders meant for someone else? Or did they orders fail to consider some aspect of the situation? Or did the instruction-givers actually taking a calculated risk, not caring very deeply that he might be injured from following the instructions? Maybe it was even a more or less necessary side-effect from the instructions, in orders to achieve some goal, that he would get injured (alternatively at least have a high risk of getting injured) in the process?
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Chemical weapons involved?
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Did he receive the instruction in French? Did he understand the language well enough? Any particular French expression relevant? French military slang?
Did he belong to the French Army? Relevant to which unit?
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Are we in WWI? WWII? This. During a battle? No. In a company of soldiers on march? Yes.

Is it during an attack? No. Is he marching very fast? No, but...

Was he shot down? By a bullet? By an explosion? grenade splitter? cannon ball? Or was he injured by someone else by another means? By a sharp pointy thing? Like a bayonet? Was he injured by an object? Barby wire? No to all.

Or does he just fall for another reason? Into a hole? Yes to both.

Did he receive the instruction in French? Yes. Did he understand the language well enough? Yes. Any particular French expression relevant? French military slang? No to both.
Did he belong to the French Army? Yes. Relevant to which unit? No; the fact that he's French has little relevance -- it's primarily to help set the scene. This could easily happen to a German or British soldier under the same circumstances.
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Did he fall into a hole that was hidden? a hole that was dug in WWI? recently?
Is it a "Parade March"?
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Did he fall into a hole that was hidden? Yesish. a hole that was dug in WWI? No. recently? Yes.
Is it a "Parade March"? No.
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Did the directions he followed not take into account the recently dug hole?
Were there many holes dug recently? entrenchments?
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The instructions that he got, were they military orders?

If so, orally given orders? Or written orders?
From his superiors? Or were the orders/instructions meant for someone else?

Did the instructions fail to consider some aspect of the situation? Or did the instruction-givers actually taking a calculated risk, not caring very deeply that he might be injured from following the instructions? Maybe it was even a more or less necessary side-effect from the instructions, in orders to achieve some goal, that he would get injured (alternatively at least have a high risk of getting injured) in the process?
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Did the directions he followed not take into account the recently dug hole? Yesish.
Were there many holes dug recently? Yes. entrenchments? Bomb craters.

The instructions that he got, were they military orders? Yesish.

If so, orally given orders? This. Or written orders?
From his superiors? Or were the orders/instructions meant for someone else? Yesish to both.

Did the instructions fail to consider some aspect of the situation? Yesish. Or did the instruction-givers actually taking a calculated risk, not caring very deeply that he might be injured from following the instructions? Maybe it was even a more or less necessary side-effect from the instructions, in orders to achieve some goal, that he would get injured (alternatively at least have a high risk of getting injured) in the process? No to the rest. Sorry for all the yesishes, they're because you all seem to have a couple FAs.
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Thank you for the bomb craters. So we have several hundreds of French soldiers marching in a field with bomb craters in it, during WWII. It's not in the midst of a battle, though. The protagonist, while following some orally given orders, walks into a bomb crater and injures himself?

Are they marching side by side, in a tight formation? Was the problem that the instructions failed to take account of the existence of the bomb craters? (since they appeared recently?)
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Thank you for the bomb craters. So we have several hundreds of French soldiers marching in a field with bomb craters in it, during WWII. It's not in the midst of a battle, though. The protagonist, while following some orally given orders, walks into a bomb crater and injures himself? Correct. Oh, except that I misremembered, and it was actually shell holes, not bomb craters.

Are they marching side by side, Yes. in a tight formation? Probably not very tight, but mostly irrelevant. Was the problem that the instructions failed to take account of the existence of the bomb craters? (since they appeared recently?) No.
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Did something else happen to him after he fell down the shell hole? Or he just injured himself from the fall?
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Did something else happen to him after he fell down the shell hole? No. Or he just injured himself from the fall? Yes.
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So the relevant instructions/orders weren't simply something like "March forward!"? But rather the orders contained instructions to avoid certain things? Or directions? And not simply something like "Avoid walking into holes in the ground"?

Does it have something to do with that the orders were given to all of the soldiers in the troop? it worked out as intended for many of the soldiers? But not for him?
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So the relevant instructions/orders weren't simply something like "March forward!"? No. But rather the orders contained instructions to avoid certain things? Yes. Or directions? Yope. And not simply something like "Avoid walking into holes in the ground"? You're OTRT.

Does it have something to do with that the orders were given to all of the soldiers in the troop? Yes. it worked out as intended for many of the soldiers? Yes. But not for him? No.
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So the relevant instructions/orders weren't simply something like "March forward!"? No. But rather the orders contained instructions to avoid certain things? Yes. Or directions? Yope. And not simply something like "Avoid walking into holes in the ground"? You're OTRT.

Does it have something to do with that the orders were given to all of the soldiers in the troop? Yes. it worked out as intended for many of the soldiers? Yes. But not for him? Correct.
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Disregard 'But not for him? No.' in the next to last post. I wanted to make the answer clearer and the word I used was misleading.
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Were they told to avoud things: on the ground? Above ground? In the air? Did he not look were he was going? Because he was looking out for something else? Because he was distracted? Was he close when the explosion creating the crater happened? Relevant?
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Were they told to avoud things: on the ground? Yes. Above ground? No. In the air? No. Did he not look were he was going? No, but... Because he was looking out for something else? No. Because he was distracted? No. Was he close when the explosion creating the crater happened? No, assume old craters. Relevant? No.
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Were they just told to avoid craters? or some markers? in a certain colour?
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Were they just told to avoid craters? Yes. or some markers? No. in a certain colour? No.
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Was he disabled in any way? Hearing? Vision?

Is there a specific marching formation that he was supposed to be taking part in to avoid the shell holes?
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Was he disabled in any way? No, but... Hearing? Vision? Both are relevant.

Is there a specific marching formation that he was supposed to be taking part in to avoid the shell holes? No.
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Was he looking out for craters at the time? Were his senses impaired somehow? Focused elsewhere? Was he looking at someone? Was he looking at/listening to the person telling them to look out for craters, so that he didn't look where he was going and fell into one?
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Was he looking out for craters at the time? No. Were his senses impaired somehow? Yes. Focused elsewhere? Irr. Was he looking at someone? Irr. Was he looking at/listening to the person telling them to look out for craters, so that he didn't look where he was going and fell into one? No.
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Gas masks relevant? Shell shock? Fog? Smoke (without mirrors...)? Gas? Darkness? Blinding flashes? Thundering noise?
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Gas masks relevant? Shell shock? Fog? Smoke (without mirrors...)? Gas? Darkness? This. Blinding flashes? Thundering noise?
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So he's told to look out for craters, but it's too dark to see them? Is his hearing also impaired at this time? Was it impaired when he recieved the orders? Other senses impaired as well? Are they ordered not to use light? To be quiet? To make noise? Speaking or singing relevant?
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So he's told to look out for craters, but it's too dark to see them? Yes. Is his hearing also impaired at this time? Noish. Was it impaired when he recieved the orders? Noish. Other senses impaired as well? No. Are they ordered not to use light? To be quiet? To make noise? Assume yes to all three. Speaking or singing relevant? Speaking.
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So he's told to look out for craters, but it's too dark to see them? Yes. Is his hearing also impaired at this time? Noish. Was it impaired when he recieved the orders? Noish. Other senses impaired as well? No. Are they ordered not to use light? To be quiet? To make noise? Assume yes to all three. Speaking or singing relevant? Speaking.
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How can I assume thet they're ordered both to be quiet and to make noise?
Is he speaking? Is someone else speaking? Or is speech emmitted by something like a speaker or radio? Is he in conversation with someone?
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How can I assume thet they're ordered both to be quiet and to make noise? They're speaking quietly.
Is he speaking? No. Is someone else speaking? Yes. Or is speech emmitted by something like a speaker or radio? Is he in conversation with someone? No.
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Oh, so is it like false orders from the enemy's propaganda division?
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Oh, so is it like false orders from the enemy's propaganda division? No. Not a bad guess though.
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The order to look out for craters is still in effect, right? If so, does he know that? Is he not looking out for them simply because it's too dark, or is there another or an additional reason? Is the speaker giving orders at the moment?
Is the speaker saying something in the lines of "look out for that crater", and he falls into the crater at that moment?
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The order to look out for craters is still in effect, right? It isn't a standing order. If so, does he know that? Is he not looking out for them simply because it's too dark, This, mostly. or is there another or an additional reason? Is the speaker giving orders at the moment? No.
Is the speaker saying something in the lines of "look out for that crater", Yes and he falls into the crater at that moment? Not quite.
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Are there two especially relevant craters? one that he's told to look out for? and another one he soon falls into instead, since he's too occupied looking out for the first?
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Are there two especially relevant craters? No, just one. one that he's told to look out for? and another one he soon falls into instead, since he's too occupied looking out for the first?
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Night vision goggles relevant? Perhaps the lack of depth perception offered by them caused him to mis-estimate his distance from the crater or the depth of the crater?
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Night vision goggles relevant? No. Perhaps the lack of depth perception offered by them caused him to mis-estimate his distance from the crater or the depth of the crater? FA
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Was he already in a crater?
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He's told "look out for that crater", then he: looks somewhere else? Looks at the speaker? Looks around for but misses the crater? Says something? "I don't se any craAAAUGH!"? Time elapsed between the warning and his fall relevant? If so: seconds? Tens of seconds? Minutes? More?
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Was he already in a crater? No.

He's told "look out for that crater", Yes, but... then he: looks somewhere else? No. Looks at the speaker? No. Looks around for but misses the crater? No. Says something? No. "I don't se any craAAAUGH!"? Time elapsed between the warning and his fall relevant? A bit. If so: seconds? This. Tens of seconds? Minutes? More?
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Is he told something else as well? Does he not hear the warning? Does he mishear/misunderstand it?
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Is he told something else as well? No. Does he not hear the warning? Not this. Does he mishear/misunderstand it? Yes!
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Does he mishear the word crater? for later?
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Does he mishear the word crater? for later? No. The term used was "shell holes."
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hell hole?
shovels?
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hell hole?
shovels? No to both.
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Relevant what he thought he heard? Was it something else he could reasonably expect to have to watch for? French accent relevant? Or would it work in any language? Is the puzze based on a joke/funny story? Reality? FYOI? Work of fiction?
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Relevant what he thought he heard? Yes. Was it something else he could reasonably expect to have to watch for? No, but you're OTRT. French accent relevant? No. Or would it work in any language? Yes. Is the puzze based on a joke/funny story? A mild one. Reality? And yes. FYOI? Work of fiction?
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Did he think he had to watch for something: in the air? On the ground? Far away? Something dangerous? Something silly? Something unlikely?
A chello?
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Did he mishear the warning for something else than a shell hole to watch out for? or did he not think what he heard was a warning at all? maybe he thought it was time for a snack, and they all were being served Jello's?
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Did he think he had to watch for something: in the air? On the ground? Far away? Something dangerous? Something silly? Something unlikely?
A chello? No to all.

Did he mishear the warning for something else than a shell hole to watch out for? or did he not think what he heard was a warning at all? This. maybe he thought it was time for a snack, and they all were being served Jello's? No.
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So someone called out a warning to look out for shell holes? but he thought he heard something else, which was not a warning?
Did he react to what he thought he heard? did his reaction make him fall down the crater? or was it just the fact that he missed the warning that made him fall down?
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So someone called out a warning to look out for shell holes? Yes. but he thought he heard something else, which was not a warning? Yesish.
Did he react to what he thought he heard? Yes. did his reaction make him fall down the crater? Yes. or was it just the fact that he missed the warning that made him fall down? No.
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Did he think he heard one word? two? more?
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Slight Blooper: or was it just the fact that he missed the warning that made him fall down? Not just this.

Did he think he heard one word? two? more? Three.
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Did what he thought he heard make him: walk faster? More carelessly? Change direction? Stop? Walk in a different fashion? Look somewhere? Relevant exactly how the warning was formulated? And which word(s) were misheard?
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Did what he thought he heard make him: walk faster? More carelessly? Change direction? This. Stop? Walk in a different fashion? Look somewhere? Relevant exactly how the warning was formulated? Yes. And which word(s) were misheard? Yes.
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Did he think he heard the word: left? right? ahead? any other "directional word"?
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Did he think he heard the word: left? This. right? ahead? any other "directional word"?
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Was even the word "left" said, but in the the meaning "remaining"?
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Was even the word "left" said, but in the the meaning "remaining"? No.
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Hint: What was heard was precisely the opposite of what was intended to be heard.
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Did he mishear a directional word as "left"? Another word? Or was the meaning something like "don't go left" but he heard it as meaning "go left"? Lefthandedness relevant?
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Did he mishear a directional word as "left"? Another word? Or was the meaning something like "don't go left" but he heard it as meaning "go left"? This. Lefthandedness relevant?

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"[The historian] is as if at the rear of a column, in which the news travels from the head back through the ranks. It is not a good vantage-point from which to gather correct information. Not so very long ago, during a relief march at night, I heard the word passed down the length of a column in this manner: 'Look out! Shell holes to the left!' The last man received it in the form, 'To the left!', took a step in that direction, and fell in."

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