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Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

noob here -- seems to me the LTPF rocks -- so, going to jump in the deep end and hope for the best...

He never saw it; we should call it something else.
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Hey welcome to the forums! They do rock!
Both "it"s the same?
He = Human/Adult/Male? Alive and breathing?
Is the first "it" and object?
Is the second "it" and object?
We = H/A/Ms? Alive and breathing?
Did we want him too see it? Not to see it?
Call = Name?
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Both "it"s the same? yes
He = Human/Adult/Male? yes Alive and breathing? alive, but not breathing...put down that balloon! ...sorry, had to get it out of my system -- but the answer is NO
Is the first "it" and object? yope
Is the second "it" and object? ditto
We = H/ yes A irrel /Ms? irrel Alive and breathing? yesish...
Did we want him too see it? Not to see it? irrel
Call = Name? yesish...
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Was "it" the cause of his death? (I assume he is dead, isn't he?)

Time/location relevant?
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Was it named after him? Was it created/invented/discovered after his death? Is "it" a country? City? Other piece of real estate? A phenomenon?
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A building? Or other land mark?
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Was "it" the cause of his death? no (I assume he is dead, isn't he?) (correct)

Time no /location yesish relevant?

Was it named after him? yes Was it created/invented/discovered after his death? no Is "it" a country? no City? no Other piece of real estate? yope; see below A phenomenon? no

A building? no Or other land mark? you could say that
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A monument? Did he envision it? Start creating it? Or did he not have anything to do with it? Is it a memorial of some sort? Wild-ass guess: Mt. Rushmore?
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A monument? no Did he envision it? no Start creating it? no Or did he not have anything to do with it? yes; i.e., he didn't have anything to do with it... Is it a memorial of some sort? no Wild-ass guess: Mt. Rushmore? no
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Is it manmade? Natural? Is there more than one of "it"?
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Is it manmade? no Natural? yes Is there more than one of "it"? no
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Is it a mountain? Hill? River? Ocean? Lake? Sea? Valley? Desert? Distinctive rock shape? A mesa? A plain? Underwater? Other geographical feature?

Is it on Earth? On the moon? On another planet? A comet? Something else in outer space?

Is it something living? a coral reef? a famous forest?
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Land? An island? The Indies and Columbus relevant?
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Is it a mountain? yes Hill? River? Ocean? Lake? Sea? Valley? Desert? Distinctive rock shape? A mesa? A plain? Underwater? Other geographical feature? no to rest

Is it on Earth? yes On the moon? On another planet? A comet? Something else in outer space? no to rest

Is it something living? a coral reef? a famous forest? no to all

Land? a mountain; see above An island? no The Indies and Columbus relevant? If only Columbus were irrelevant -- and for the purposes of this puzzle, he sure is...!
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Is it a mountain? yes Hill? River? Ocean? Lake? Sea? Valley? Desert? Distinctive rock shape? A mesa? A plain? Underwater? Other geographical feature? no to rest

Is it on Earth? yes On the moon? On another planet? A comet? Something else in outer space? no to rest

Is it something living? a coral reef? a famous forest? no to all

Land? a mountain; see above An island? no The Indies and Columbus relevant? If only Columbus were irrelevant -- and for the purposes of this puzzle, he sure is...!
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err...
one more...
noob double posted, but actually, I think it was the firefox update install, or something, after which I clicked, "sure -- restore my tabs..." and resent some data back and forth?
just to let you know that I have something on the ball... I know what a browser is, at any rate.
back to you, thank you.
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Mountain in [LTPF list of continents]? Mt. Everest? Does "we" think it should be named after someone else?
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Mountain in [LTPF list of continents]? North America Mt. Everest? no; OTRT Does "we" think it should be named after someone else? no
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Mount McKinley?
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Mount McKinley? no
the solution is imminent -- all that remains is the tedium of guessing which mountain we're talking about -- if this were an investigation conducted by a private investigator, they'd deploy goons to do the legwork and collect facts, so I'll be that goon, and invoke something like a LTPF [list of north american mountains named after people no longer living] and declare the
*******SPOILER*******
In 1792, George Vancouver, captain of the HMS Discovery, explored the inland waters of what is now the northwest United States, naming everything they “discovered.”
[quotation marks indicate my bias on this issue…]
Among the prominent features were bodies of water, landforms, and – particularly, in this case – mountains. Vancouver named the most prominent mountain he saw after his friend, Rear Admiral Peter Rainier.
However, the mountain already had a name, given it by the local natives: “Tahoma,” meaning, according to various interpretations, Mother of Waters, White Sentinel, Sleeping Lady…
It’s a BIG mountain – over 4,300 meters high (over 14,000 feet to us yanks) – and in the Puget Sound basin, you can see it from nearly everywhere.
...but not today; too many clouds, for which my region is well-known.

The issue of its name is of particular interest to some who live near it; out of regard for its significance to the highly-developed native culture, many feel that the name given it by Europeans is unsuitable, and that it should be called by its historic name (obviously, I am one of those – personally, I think it’s rather ludicrous to call this astonishing icon by a name which I think was really intended to enhance Vancouver’s career prospects in the Admiralty, so I, and many others, never call it “Rainier”).


The city of Tacoma, Washington, is named for the mountain; from there, it looms large and unavoidable, being only about 50 km away.
Whidbey Island, on which I live, is named for the sailing master on Vancouver’s espedition, Joseph Whidbey, who determined via circumnavigation that it was indeed an island (the passage around the north end of the island is named “Deception Pass,” as the expedition was deceived, at first, into thinking the island was a peninsula, as the passage is obscure – as Whidbey personally experienced the landform which has been given his name, I’m fairly content with that).
To reach the mainland, I cross Possession Sound via ferry; the sound was named by Vancouver, as upon its shores, he claimed possession of the entire region in the name of King George III.
Ironically, I think, although nearly prominent landform in the area was named by Vancouver for either members of the expedition or personal friends (or for personal advancement!), almost every river in the Puget Sound basin is named after the natives who lived along them: Puyallup, Nisqually, Skykomish, Snohomish, Stillaguamish, Skagit… the list goes on an on.
Personally, I’d like to see more of that.
Thanks for going along with this first puzzle of mine; I enjoyed it, and hope you did, too; nice to have the opportunity to develop LTPF skills -- for instance, I had thought while answering one post that a *more clever* puzzle statement would have been, "It already had a name before he never saw it..."
And I hope none of my answers were misleading... I wasn't
absolutely certain about one or two of them.
Plus, I was able to proselytize, and hopefully influence others to share my view...
I've got another puzzle in mind, but will check in with some others before I put it up.
Thanks again, comrades, particularly Galfisk, for the nice volleys back and forth.
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Good one.

...though I suspect the name might be appropriate in another sense. Given what I know about the weather in Washington, and the fact that it's a high mountain that would block the clouds, it may well be rainier there than on most other mountains like it :-)
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Biograd:
Good one.
thanks; they'll get better, I know it...

...though I suspect the name might be appropriate in another sense. Given what I know about the weather in Washington, and the fact that it's a high mountain that would block the clouds, it may well be rainier there than on most other mountains like it :-)
You may be surprised to learn that NYC gets more rain than Seattle -- truly -- but I think Seattle has more days of gray skies than NYC, hence the reputation... it drives some folks nuts, but we "natives" don't mind it. In fact, some prefer it -- but I'll remember your suggestion when I hear it called by the name I eschew, and imagine that the speaker is mispronouncing -- that ought to make me smirk. ;-)
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You may be surprised to learn that NYC gets more rain than Seattle

Really? I didn't know that. I just remember, one day I met a guy on a hike who had lived in Seattle for several years. He asked me what the average number of sunny days in November was in Seattle, and I didn't know. He said the answer was zero!
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He asked me what the average number of sunny days in November was in Seattle, and I didn't know. He said the answer was zero!

Bingo. You're right about that -- it's November now, and it's rained every day; no surprise.
Rainier... still chuckling. I feel like a dope for not having thought of it on my own; perhaps rain stultifies, as in Bradbury's The Long Rain, or Maugham's Rain (sort of)...
Note to mod: this little chat about rain is enjoyable, but please feel free to close the thread!

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