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Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 3:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JESUS, it's been a while since I've been on the 'ol forums.
Please ask lots of questions, it took a while to formulate this one. :P

I looked to my left, saw him, and urged her to go a little faster. He then shocked himself and I told her not to worry anymore. What is happening here?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 5:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

him=he=himself=same person=HAM?
Her1=her2=HAF?
I1=I2=you=HAM?
Shocked=electrical shock? Emotional? Other? Shock collars relevant? Electric fences? Go faster = move faster? Is she running? Are you?
I'm imagining you and a woman being chased by a dog, the dog is about to catch up and you yell to her to run faster, then the dog reaches the perimeter of the yard and his shock collar is activated.
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

him=he=himself=same person=HAM?
Yes to all.
Her1=her2=HAF?
Yes to all.
I1=I2=you=HAM?
Yes to all.
Shocked=electrical shock? Emotional? Other? This. Shock collars relevant? Electric fences? No to both. Go faster = move faster? This. Is she running? No. Are you? No.
I'm imagining you and a woman being chased by a dog, the dog is about to catch up and you yell to her to run faster, then the dog reaches the perimeter of the yard and his shock collar is activated. That's very interesting, but no.
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 2:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"shocked" as in "shocked to discover"?
shocked himself intentionally? by accident?
did you expect him to shock himself? were you worried?
before you looked to your left: did you know he was there? did she? was she worried before you looked to your left?
hiccups relevant? albatrosses?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you being chased? Competing? Playing a game? Are you in a car? In/on another vehicle? If so, are you both in the same one? Are you trying to get away from him? To stay ahead of him? To get somewhere before him? Is he also moving? In the same manner as you are?
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"shocked" as in "shocked to discover"? No.
shocked himself intentionally? This. by accident?
did you expect him to shock himself? No. were you worried? YES.
before you looked to your left: did you know he was there? Yes. did she? Yes. was she worried before you looked to your left? No.
hiccups relevant? No. albatrosses? LOL. No.

Are you being chased? No. Competing? No. Playing a game? No. Are you in a car? YES. In/on another vehicle? No. If so, are you both in the same one? Both = Me and "Her". Are you trying to get away from him? Specify. To stay ahead of him? Specify. To get somewhere before him? No. Is he also moving? Yes. In the same manner as you are? Yes-ish.

Very good round of questions.
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You were worried: for him? for her?

Was she driving the two of you to go get help for him?

At first I got this image of a man having a heart attack and you getting help, then realizing he had a defibrillator and thinking he'd be OK. But then you'd probably have said "he was shocked", because presumably if he is in a position to need a defibrillator he is not in a position to operate one! In any case, is this at all OTRT?
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You were worried: for him? Yes. for her? Yes.

Was she driving the two of you to go get help for him? No.

At first I got this image of a man having a heart attack and you getting help, then realizing he had a defibrillator and thinking he'd be OK. But then you'd probably have said "he was shocked", because presumably if he is in a position to need a defibrillator he is not in a position to operate one! In any case, is this at all OTRT? Also interesting, but not OTRT.
Biograd (Biograd)
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Is this a plausible real-life situation?
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a plausible real-life situation? Yes it is.
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone's life in danger? Is he also in a car? Other vehicle? Other people relevant? Are you on a road? Is she driving? Is he? Are you side by side at the moment? Is he in the process of passing you? Crime relevant? Do you know him? Are your feelings towards him at the moment: Positive? Negative? Neutral?
Speeding involved? Getting away from something/someplace? Natural disasters involved? Manmade? Are everyone involved fine afterwards?
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did it matter that you saw "him" to your left? if it had been anyone else, would you still have urged her to go faster?
the shock seems accidental and self-administered, by implication: FA?
shock: physiological? psychological?
and per Galfisk: are you getting away? rushing toward? destination relevant?
time relevant? h/m/s? m/d/y?
location relevant?
if you had looked to your right, would you have seen anyone? if so, would you have urged her to go faster?
relation between you and her relevant?
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note to Biograd: my brother, an Elec. Engineer, has worked on development of just such a defibrillator, intended for auto-use (as in, using on oneself -- seems that there's a scene in the recent Casino Royale in which 007 defibs himself, too). and -- somewhat ironically, to me, as I think about it -- when I was a boy, we lived across the street from the man who invented the defibrillator. too bad there isn't one in this puzzle...
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 3:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone's life in danger? Yes. Is he also in a car? Yes. Other vehicle? Other people relevant? No. Are you on a road? Yes. Is she driving? Yes. Is he? Yes. Are you side by side at the moment? Yes! Is he in the process of passing you? No. Crime relevant? Not too relevant. Do you know him? No! Are your feelings towards him at the moment: Positive? Negative? This! Neutral?
Speeding involved? No. Getting away from something/someplace? Yes. Natural disasters involved? No. Manmade? Not a disaster. Are everyone involved fine afterwards? Yes.

Very good round of questions.

did it matter that you saw "him" to your left? Yes. if it had been anyone else, would you still have urged her to go faster? If the situations were the same, then yes.
the shock seems accidental and self-administered, by implication: FA? The shock was on purpose and self-administered.
shock: physiological? This. psychological?
and per Galfisk: are you getting away? Yes. rushing toward? Err, re-word. destination relevant? No.
time relevant? h/m/s? m/d/y? Not relevant, but let's assume Spring of 2009.
location relevant? The road.
if you had looked to your right, would you have seen anyone? No. if so, would you have urged her to go faster?
relation between you and her relevant? Let's assume she's my wife.
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting set of coincidences there Yojimbo. I would have thought that once the heart has malfunctioned that much, unconsciousness or greatly diminished unconsciousness would result rapidly. Anyway, I hope that pattern you mention doesn't extent to you or someone in your life needing a defibrillator any time soon.
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But back to the puzzle:

Are the negative feelings toward the man: because he was about to do something dangerous? something that would endanger your wife?

Was he driving erratically? Was the urged speeding up to avoid an anticipated collision between his car and yours (= "hers")?

Was he aware that administering the shock would improve the situation for you and your wife? Was this his reason for doing it? Was the shock the important outcome, or a side effect of something else?
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the negative feelings toward the man: because he was about to do something dangerous? Yes. something that would endanger your wife? Yes.

Was he driving erratically? No. Was the urged speeding up to avoid an anticipated collision between his car and yours (= "hers")? YES!

Was he aware that administering the shock would improve the situation for you and your wife? Yes. Was this his reason for doing it? Yes! Was the shock the important outcome, or a side effect of something else? Because he shocked himself, the outcome was positive.
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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 3:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had he fallen asleep in his car? Or something similar? Did he need special equipment to "shock himself"? Medical equipment?
Biograd (Biograd)
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Is the body part he shocked relevant? Did he shock a particular muscle, that he somehow had lost nerve control of, in order to make it contract?
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this shock indeed electrical in nature? Perhaps chemical? Like adrenaline? Epinephrine? Insulin?
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 1:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had he fallen asleep in his car? Absolutely! Or something similar? Did he need special equipment to "shock himself"? No. Medical equipment?

Is the body part he shocked relevant? Did he shock a particular muscle, that he somehow had lost nerve control of, in order to make it contract? None of these.

Was this shock indeed electrical in nature? Perhaps chemical? Like adrenaline? Epinephrine? Insulin? None of these.

You guys have all the pieces, so I think it's time for a

***SPOILER***

This is based on a true story. My wife and I were on the freeway, her driving, and we were on our way to Florida. I noticed that the truck driver to our left was falling asleep, and he was rocking back and forth in his seat with his eyes closed. I urged her to move a bit faster so we wouldn't get hit. I guess the driver noticed that he was falling asleep, because he then rolled down the window, and the cold night air had shocked him awake, which relieved my anxiety.

Thanks for playing!

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