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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I'm starving. Can you remember what we used to eat?"

Please explain
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The person saying it = HAM? Is it said to another person? To more than one? Is that/those people also HAM? Is it said in person? Is that person also starving? Is the starvation literal? Or is he just hungry? Or is "starving" a figure of speech for something else?
Can the person speaking not remember what they used to eat? Will the answer to the question be helpful?
Inedible stuff relevant? Toxic?
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The person saying it = HAM? H-No, A-Yes but not necessarily & M-Irr Is it said to another person? No To more than one? No Is that/those people also HAM? Same as above Is it said in person? NO only in my own imagination Is that person also starving? FA as you'll have gathered although the it in question may be hungry Is the starvation literal? No Or is he just hungry? Yes Or is "starving" a figure of speech for something else? No just hungry
Can the person FA speaking not remember what they used to eat? Asked in negative so In my mind yes but in reality probably not Will the answer to the question be helpful? It could be
Inedible stuff relevant? Toxic? No to these
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He's in space, and hungry? (Continuing the "hyperlateral" thoughts... :-) )
Title relevant? an actual bill? Or a person, Bill?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 2:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the subject of the puzzle an animal? Plant? Insect? Mythological creature?

Does he have multiple personalities? Or a bad memory?
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He's in space, and hungry? (Continuing the "hyperlateral" thoughts... :-) ) Nice thinking but no
Title relevant? In a punning sort of way yes an actual bill? yes Or a person, Bill? no
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the subject of the puzzle an animal? yes Plant? Insect? Mythological creature?

Does he have multiple personalities? No Or a bad memory? maybe but not necessarily
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 3:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the animal had to move from its natural habitat? long ago? and now there's much less to eat? and not at all the same food as before?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 3:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the animal had to move from its natural habitat? No long ago? and now there's much less to eat? there was less to eat but not for that reason and not at all the same food as before? yes but be careful
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"bill" in title = a duck's bill? other bird bill?
has their former food source been impacted by human action? habitat disrupted?
domestic animals relevant?
is this a domestic bird, who's had the ability to feed itself "bred out"?
or is otherwise sufficiently removed from its "wild" habits that it's no longer able to attend to its needs?
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"bill" in title = a duck's bill? Yes other bird bill?
has their former food source been impacted by human action? Yes habitat disrupted? But no
domestic animals relevant? No
is this a domestic bird, who's had the ability to feed itself "bred out"? No
or is otherwise sufficiently removed from its "wild" habits that it's no longer able to attend to its needs? Yes explore this notion
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the animal a duck? Is it domesticated? Did it escape? Otherwise move/get moved? Or is it in the same place, but not getting the same food? Was it fed by humans?
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the animals ducks? or did they eat ducks?
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the animal a duck? YesIs it domesticated? No...but Did it escape? No Otherwise move/get moved? No Or is it in the same place, but not getting the same food? Yes Was it fed by humans? Yes
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the animals ducks? or did they eat ducks? see above
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 4:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they used to be fed by humans? But then the humans stopped coming? Or just stopped feeding them? Throwing of bread crumbs or similar to attract the birds relevant? (I remember doing that as a kid at a neighbour's duck pond, great fun)
Sign or law saying "Do not feed the ducks" relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they used to be fed by humans? yes But then the humans stopped coming? yes temporarily Or just stopped feeding them? asa consequence yes Throwing of bread crumbs or similar to attract the birds relevant? (I remember doing that as a kid at a neighbour's duck pond, great fun) yes feeding the ducks with bread is relevant

In fact you're almost there

Sign or law saying "Do not feed the ducks" relevant? no
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 8:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Timescale - did the humans stop coming for: seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years?
Were they prevented from coming? Did they go somewhere else instead? Did they not want to come?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Timescale - did the humans stop coming for: seconds, minutes, hours,this 24 of them in fact days, weeks, months, years?
Were they prevented from coming? yes Did they go somewhere else instead? Did they not want to come? No to the rest
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a repeating event? Like a zoo that's closed on sundays? Other closure of a facility relevant? Holidays relevant? Accident or disaster?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a repeating event? It could be Like a zoo that's closed on sundays? But not like this Other closure of a facility relevant? Yes Holidays relevant? No Accident or disaster? No
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the park closed today, meaning noone comes to feed the ducks? Or is it something else than a park? Relevant why it's closed?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the park closed today, meaning noone comes to feed the ducks? Yes Or is it something else than a park? Relevant why it's closed? yes

You've pretty much found out everything but the reason the park was closed. This was a byproduct of a very newsworthy story in Ireland this week and judging by one radio show's phone-in the question of what the ducks might eat was foremost in some people's minds
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW - white bread gives most birds, getting fed with it, a bad stomach...

Did something happen at just that one park?
Closed because of danger to public?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW - white bread gives most birds, getting fed with it, a bad stomach... really, I didn't know that. The ducks don't seem too bothered by it

Did something happen at just that one park? No
Closed because of danger to public? No
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were other parks also closed?
Relevant: natural event? Political? Manmade? Strike? Was the park closed specifically to keep people out? Because people running/tending it were not available that day? Other animals relevant?
Was park usually open around the year?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they suspect the ducks were French?
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Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the park closed to benefit the ducks - as in, their pond was being cleaned/dredged, or some other way...?
and ironically, no one thought about what else they might need, except most of radio listeners calling in?
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Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 5:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were other parks also closed? Yes
Relevant: natural event? Political? Manmade? Strike? Yes Was the park closed specifically to keep people out? Because people running/tending it were not available that day? and this Other animals relevant?
Was park usually open around the year?
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Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they suspect the ducks were French? LOL but alas no. We are slowly starting to get over the whole french thing. It's a healing process

was the park closed to benefit the ducks - as in, their pond was being cleaned/dredged, or some other way...?
and ironically, no one thought about what else they might need, except most of radio listeners calling in? No to this but Galfisk pretty much has it covered so ....

**************Spoiler***************

Yes last week in Ireland there was a one day strike by all government employees and civil servants. This meant closed schools,curtailed medical and social welfare services and also the closure of all public parks. Surprisingly a lot of people who phoned in to a radio show were worried about the ducks in St Stephens Green in Dublin City centre. Their main concern was that as the ducks are fed by people almost constantly they may have forgotten how to forage for food in their natural way. Strange the priorities some people have . The ducks were fine i'm sure.

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