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This is a scrund that only (but not all) liberals have. I had it so severely that I made a fool of myself by incorporating it into a short story (i.e., writing the story as if the scrund were true)! Unlike the liberal scrund in a previous puzzle of mine, it does not rest on having a favorable opinion of liberals. What is it??
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Is it a scrund about liberals? About conservatives? About people in general? About actions? About political parties? About taxes?
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Is it a scrund about liberals?yes About conservatives? yes About people in general? just liberals & conservatives About actions? yes About political parties? no About taxes? no
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About voting? Monetary/purchasing actions? Religious actions? Charitable actions?
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About voting? Monetary/purchasing actions? Religious actions? Charitable actions? No more one of these than any others
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Is the scrund about something they two groups: disagree on? Agree on? Do differently? Do the same? Does the scrund imply that all libs/cons do/say/think the same thing, when they don't?
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Is the scrund about something they two groups: disagree on?yes Agree on? noDo differently? yes Do the same? no Does the scrund imply that all libs/cons do/say/think the same thing, when they don't?yes for conservatives & "do" or "think"
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It it about: war? Taxes? Health care? Free market? Gay marriage? Other "morality"-related stuff? Like abortion? Is it something you think they all: like? Dislike? Want? Don't want?
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It it about: war? Taxes? Health care? Free market? Gay marriage? Other "morality"-related stuff? Like abortion? It's not more about any one cause than about any othersIs it something you think they all: like? noishDislike? noish Want? yope or yesish Don't want? ditto
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Is wanting/not wanting change relevant? Wanting/ not wanting to maintain the status quo?
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Is wanting/not wanting change relevant? no Wanting/ not wanting to maintain the status quo? no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal.
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no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal. That's precisely why I thought it might be the scrund in question...they're widely perceived as being anti-change, but that's not actually true all the time. Anyway, back to the puzzle...

So if it's not about what conservatives do or think about a particular issue, does the scrund relate to the process by which conservatives do or think things in general (so not what they think, but how)?
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no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal. That's precisely why I thought it might be the scrund in question...they're widely perceived as being anti-change, but that's not actually true all the time. Anyway, back to the puzzle...

So if it's not about what conservatives do or think about a particular issue, does the scrund relate to the process by which conservatives do or think things in general (so not what they think, but how)?yope
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HINT: This is a very general scrund.
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Does it relate to the history of the parties? the etymology of the terms?
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HINT: This is a very general scrund.
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Does it relate to the history of the parties? no the etymology of the terms? no
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Does this apply more to fiscal or social conservatives/liberals? Conservatives/liberals of a certain country? Is it about microscale interaction between conservatives/liberals? Macroscale?
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Does this apply more to fiscal or social conservatives/liberals? equally Conservatives/liberals of a certain country?Some American liberals certainly have this scrund, but I don't know about other countries, except that I'm pretty sure that some Canadian liberals have it too Is it about microscale interaction between conservatives/liberals?yope Macroscale?yope
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Would it be possible to have this scrund if one were independent or apolitical? Could a conservative have this scrund?

Is it a scrund about what conservatives what to have happen in regards to liberals?
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Is it about American conservatives? Or conservatives in another country? Or conservatives in general?
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Would it be possible to have this scrund if one were independent or apolitical? Could a conservative have this scrund? The puzzle statement says no, but on thinking it over, I realize that I'm wrong. An independent or apolitical could have it, but I doubt that a conservative could.

Is it a scrund about what conservatives what Do you mean '
want'? If so, no
to have happen in regards to liberals?
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Is it about American conservatives? Or conservatives in another country? Or conservatives in general? I had it about American conservatives, but one could have it about all conservatives
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Is it about what conservatives want/don't want: for themselves? For someone else? For the country? For the world? For their party?
Is it about an opinion they have? Demographics relevant? Family life? Belief?
Is the scrund that they all agree with someone? With an organization? Fox news relevant?
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Is it about what conservatives want/don't want: for themselves? For someone else? For the country? For the world? For their party? no or noish to all
Is it about an opinion they have? yope Demographics relevant? no Family life? yesBelief? yope
Is the scrund that they all agree with someone? no With an organization? noFox news relevant? no
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Other areas than family life relevant? Any of the following relevant: Choice of spouse? Marriage? Children? Sex life? Contraception? Conformity to conservative values? Teaching of conservative values to children?
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Other areas than family life relevant? yes Any of the following relevant: Choice of spouse? Marriage? yesChildren? yes Sex life? yes Contraception? no Conformity to conservative values? no Teaching of conservative values to children? no
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HINT: The story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative.
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Is it related to the likelihood of having sex/children outside of marriage?
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HINT: The story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative.
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Is it related to the likelihood of having sex/children outside of marriage? no
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HINT: The scrund is about personality & lifestyles.
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Is it about the likelihood of getting married? The desire to get married quickly / not get married quickly? Dating a lot of people?
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Is it about the likelihood of getting married? noThe desire to get married quickly / not get married quickly? neither Dating a lot of people? no
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Is it that conservative are more or less likely to do something? Be something? Child rearing relevant? Violence? Childhood? Alcohol? Racism?
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Is it that conservative are more or less likely to do something? yesBe something? yesChild rearing relevant? possiblyViolence? no Childhood?see previous answer but one Alcohol? noRacism? no
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Is it about conservative values having to do with sex? Children? Education? Homeschooling? Private schools? Public schools? Schools in general? Abortion? Evolution? Religion? Atheism? Agnosticism?
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Is it about conservative values having to do with sex? Children? Education? Homeschooling? Private schools? Public schools? Schools in general? Abortion? Evolution? Religion? Atheism? Agnosticism?None of the above. HINT: It's a general personality/character trait.
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Is it that conservatives are mean? Nice? Happy? Sad? Funny? Serious? Uptight? Stingy? Stupid-seeming? Smart?
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Is it that conservatives are mean? Nice? Happy? Sad? Funny? Serious? Uptight? Stingy? Stupid-seeming? Smart? None of those, but you're asking the right (no pun intended!) sort of question.Keep in mind my earlier hint that "the story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative."
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Is it that conservatives are modest? Shy? Loyal? Faithful? Honest? Polite? Morally upright (whatever that means)?

If none of the above, is it a character trait that would generally be considered positive? Negative? Neutral?
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Is it that conservatives are modest? no Shy? no Loyal?yope Faithful? yope Honest? no Polite? noMorally upright (whatever that means)?no

If none of the above, is it a character trait that would generally be considered positive? opinions vary. I consider it VERY positive, although, as puzzle regulars should know, I most certainly am not a conservativeNegative? ditto Neutral? ditto
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Loving? Kinky? Wild in bed? Something else to do with sex?
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Loving? yesish Kinky? no Wild in bed? noSomething else to do with sex? no
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Is it about the likelihood of breaking up with a conservative? Is divorce relevant?
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Is it about the likelihood of breaking up with a conservative?no Is divorce relevant? no
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Does the scrund involve thinking conservatives are more loving-ish than non-conservatives? Or less?

Is it caring?
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Does the scrund involve thinking conservatives are more loving-ish than non-conservatives?yesish, but you need to be more specific Or less? no

Is it caring? yesish, but you need to be more specific
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All the ____s = loving/caring-ish...whatever descriptive word you're looking for.

Is the scrund that conservatives are more _____ of other people in general? More ____ of a significant other? More _____ of family? More ______ of himself or herself? More ______ of people they don't like? More _____ of friends?
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All the ____s = loving/caring-ish...whatever descriptive word you're looking for. Let's call the relevant trait 'gliph'

Is the scrund that conservatives are more less gliph of other people in general_____ of other people in general? More more gliph of a loved one (I'm allergic to the expression 'significant other')of a significant other? More more gliph of family_____ of family? More _ irrel_____ of himself or herself? More maybe less gliph of people they don't like______ of people they don't like? More more gliph of friends_____ of friends?
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Conservatives care for one another? Conservatives care more for family and friends than other people? Conservatives hate liberals?
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Conservatives care for one another? See next answerConservatives care more for family and friends than other people? yesConservatives hate liberals? no

This is close enough for me to declare a
************** SPOILER *******************
One of my short stories includes a liberal woman who is in love with a conservative man & says, "At least when a conservative loves you, he loves you more than he loves the oppressed masses." She has the same scrund I did when I wrote the story (which was first published in 1994); she equates activism with liberalism & thinks that conservatives are home with their loved ones while liberals are out protesting. Of course, she & I both overlook the fact that conservatives may be out protesting too--at abortion clinics. Stupid of me--I am a non-activist liberal & so are/were my parents. But check out my new puzzle anyway!

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