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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4971 Registered: 8-2001 |
This is a scrund that only (but not all) liberals have. I had it so severely that I made a fool of myself by incorporating it into a short story (i.e., writing the story as if the scrund were true)! Unlike the liberal scrund in a previous puzzle of mine, it does not rest on having a favorable opinion of liberals. What is it?? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1215 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a scrund about liberals? About conservatives? About people in general? About actions? About political parties? About taxes? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4973 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1215 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it a scrund about liberals?yes About conservatives? yes About people in general? just liberals & conservatives About actions? yes About political parties? no About taxes? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1229 Registered: 7-2009 |
About voting? Monetary/purchasing actions? Religious actions? Charitable actions? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4975 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1229 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 9:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) About voting? Monetary/purchasing actions? Religious actions? Charitable actions? No more one of these than any others | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 762 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the scrund about something they two groups: disagree on? Agree on? Do differently? Do the same? Does the scrund imply that all libs/cons do/say/think the same thing, when they don't? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4979 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 762 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 12:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund about something they two groups: disagree on?yes Agree on? noDo differently? yes Do the same? no Does the scrund imply that all libs/cons do/say/think the same thing, when they don't?yes for conservatives & "do" or "think" | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 794 Registered: 9-2009 |
It it about: war? Taxes? Health care? Free market? Gay marriage? Other "morality"-related stuff? Like abortion? Is it something you think they all: like? Dislike? Want? Don't want? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4980 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 794 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 8:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) It it about: war? Taxes? Health care? Free market? Gay marriage? Other "morality"-related stuff? Like abortion? It's not more about any one cause than about any othersIs it something you think they all: like? noishDislike? noish Want? yope or yesish Don't want? ditto | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1363 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is wanting/not wanting change relevant? Wanting/ not wanting to maintain the status quo? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4982 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1363 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 3:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is wanting/not wanting change relevant? no Wanting/ not wanting to maintain the status quo? no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1377 Registered: 7-2009 |
no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal. That's precisely why I thought it might be the scrund in question...they're widely perceived as being anti-change, but that's not actually true all the time. Anyway, back to the puzzle... So if it's not about what conservatives do or think about a particular issue, does the scrund relate to the process by which conservatives do or think things in general (so not what they think, but how)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4985 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1377 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 2:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) no. Conservatives often want to change the status quo. For example, conservatives in America want to make abortion illegal. That's precisely why I thought it might be the scrund in question...they're widely perceived as being anti-change, but that's not actually true all the time. Anyway, back to the puzzle... So if it's not about what conservatives do or think about a particular issue, does the scrund relate to the process by which conservatives do or think things in general (so not what they think, but how)?yope | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4988 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: This is a very general scrund. | ||
| Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker)
New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 70 Registered: 2-2009 |
Does it relate to the history of the parties? the etymology of the terms? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4995 Registered: 8-2001 |
Post Number: 4988 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 9:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) HINT: This is a very general scrund. Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker) New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 70 Registered: 2-2009 Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 10:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does it relate to the history of the parties? no the etymology of the terms? no | ||
| Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker)
New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2009 |
Does this apply more to fiscal or social conservatives/liberals? Conservatives/liberals of a certain country? Is it about microscale interaction between conservatives/liberals? Macroscale? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4996 Registered: 8-2001 |
Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker) New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2009 Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 12:05 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does this apply more to fiscal or social conservatives/liberals? equally Conservatives/liberals of a certain country?Some American liberals certainly have this scrund, but I don't know about other countries, except that I'm pretty sure that some Canadian liberals have it too Is it about microscale interaction between conservatives/liberals?yope Macroscale?yope | ||
| Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker)
New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 85 Registered: 2-2009 |
Would it be possible to have this scrund if one were independent or apolitical? Could a conservative have this scrund? Is it a scrund about what conservatives what to have happen in regards to liberals? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1428 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it about American conservatives? Or conservatives in another country? Or conservatives in general? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 4998 Registered: 8-2001 |
Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker) New member Username: Twilightseeker Post Number: 85 Registered: 2-2009 Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 1:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would it be possible to have this scrund if one were independent or apolitical? Could a conservative have this scrund? The puzzle statement says no, but on thinking it over, I realize that I'm wrong. An independent or apolitical could have it, but I doubt that a conservative could. Is it a scrund about what conservatives what Do you mean ' want'? If so, no to have happen in regards to liberals? Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1428 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 1:54 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about American conservatives? Or conservatives in another country? Or conservatives in general? I had it about American conservatives, but one could have it about all conservatives | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 924 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it about what conservatives want/don't want: for themselves? For someone else? For the country? For the world? For their party? Is it about an opinion they have? Demographics relevant? Family life? Belief? Is the scrund that they all agree with someone? With an organization? Fox news relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5001 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 924 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 1:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about what conservatives want/don't want: for themselves? For someone else? For the country? For the world? For their party? no or noish to all Is it about an opinion they have? yope Demographics relevant? no Family life? yesBelief? yope Is the scrund that they all agree with someone? no With an organization? noFox news relevant? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 943 Registered: 9-2009 |
Other areas than family life relevant? Any of the following relevant: Choice of spouse? Marriage? Children? Sex life? Contraception? Conformity to conservative values? Teaching of conservative values to children? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5007 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 943 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 8:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Other areas than family life relevant? yes Any of the following relevant: Choice of spouse? Marriage? yesChildren? yes Sex life? yes Contraception? no Conformity to conservative values? no Teaching of conservative values to children? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5015 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: The story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1452 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it related to the likelihood of having sex/children outside of marriage? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5021 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 7:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) HINT: The story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1452 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 3:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it related to the likelihood of having sex/children outside of marriage? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5032 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: The scrund is about personality & lifestyles. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1496 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it about the likelihood of getting married? The desire to get married quickly / not get married quickly? Dating a lot of people? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5037 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1496 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 8:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about the likelihood of getting married? noThe desire to get married quickly / not get married quickly? neither Dating a lot of people? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1121 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it that conservative are more or less likely to do something? Be something? Child rearing relevant? Violence? Childhood? Alcohol? Racism? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5040 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1121 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 2:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it that conservative are more or less likely to do something? yesBe something? yesChild rearing relevant? possiblyViolence? no Childhood?see previous answer but one Alcohol? noRacism? no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is it about conservative values having to do with sex? Children? Education? Homeschooling? Private schools? Public schools? Schools in general? Abortion? Evolution? Religion? Atheism? Agnosticism? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5044 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 4:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about conservative values having to do with sex? Children? Education? Homeschooling? Private schools? Public schools? Schools in general? Abortion? Evolution? Religion? Atheism? Agnosticism?None of the above. HINT: It's a general personality/character trait. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is it that conservatives are mean? Nice? Happy? Sad? Funny? Serious? Uptight? Stingy? Stupid-seeming? Smart? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5045 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it that conservatives are mean? Nice? Happy? Sad? Funny? Serious? Uptight? Stingy? Stupid-seeming? Smart? None of those, but you're asking the right (no pun intended!) sort of question.Keep in mind my earlier hint that "the story character who has this scrund is a liberal who is in love with a conservative." | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1526 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it that conservatives are modest? Shy? Loyal? Faithful? Honest? Polite? Morally upright (whatever that means)? If none of the above, is it a character trait that would generally be considered positive? Negative? Neutral? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5046 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1526 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it that conservatives are modest? no Shy? no Loyal?yope Faithful? yope Honest? no Polite? noMorally upright (whatever that means)?no If none of the above, is it a character trait that would generally be considered positive? opinions vary. I consider it VERY positive, although, as puzzle regulars should know, I most certainly am not a conservativeNegative? ditto Neutral? ditto | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1164 Registered: 9-2009 |
Loving? Kinky? Wild in bed? Something else to do with sex? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5048 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1164 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 11:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Loving? yesish Kinky? no Wild in bed? noSomething else to do with sex? no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is it about the likelihood of breaking up with a conservative? Is divorce relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5049 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 11:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about the likelihood of breaking up with a conservative?no Is divorce relevant? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1530 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does the scrund involve thinking conservatives are more loving-ish than non-conservatives? Or less? Is it caring? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5050 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1530 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 3:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the scrund involve thinking conservatives are more loving-ish than non-conservatives?yesish, but you need to be more specific Or less? no Is it caring? yesish, but you need to be more specific | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1534 Registered: 7-2009 |
All the ____s = loving/caring-ish...whatever descriptive word you're looking for. Is the scrund that conservatives are more _____ of other people in general? More ____ of a significant other? More _____ of family? More ______ of himself or herself? More ______ of people they don't like? More _____ of friends? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5051 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1534 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) All the ____s = loving/caring-ish...whatever descriptive word you're looking for. Let's call the relevant trait 'gliph' Is the scrund that conservatives are more less gliph of other people in general_____ of other people in general? More more gliph of a loved one (I'm allergic to the expression 'significant other')of a significant other? More more gliph of family_____ of family? More _ irrel_____ of himself or herself? More maybe less gliph of people they don't like______ of people they don't like? More more gliph of friends_____ of friends? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2010 |
Conservatives care for one another? Conservatives care more for family and friends than other people? Conservatives hate liberals? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5053 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 8:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Conservatives care for one another? See next answerConservatives care more for family and friends than other people? yesConservatives hate liberals? no This is close enough for me to declare a ************** SPOILER ******************* One of my short stories includes a liberal woman who is in love with a conservative man & says, "At least when a conservative loves you, he loves you more than he loves the oppressed masses." She has the same scrund I did when I wrote the story (which was first published in 1994); she equates activism with liberalism & thinks that conservatives are home with their loved ones while liberals are out protesting. Of course, she & I both overlook the fact that conservatives may be out protesting too--at abortion clinics. Stupid of me--I am a non-activist liberal & so are/were my parents. But check out my new puzzle anyway! |
