| Author | Message | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2009 |
He knew it wasn't straight, but he did it anyway. This is why he got hit, but it didn't hurt much. | ||
| Probably_monty_hall (Probably_monty_hall)
New member Username: Probably_monty_hall Post Number: 116 Registered: 10-2009 |
He 1 = He 2 = He 3? All H/A/M? It 1 = an object? It 2 = some action involving It 1? It 3 = getting hit? by It 1? William Tell relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 799 Registered: 9-2009 |
Not straight: bent? Curved? Skewed? Gay? Is it a physical object that is not straight? A trajectory? A person? Sports relevant? Baseball? Is he hit by an object? By someone? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1952 Registered: 5-2003 |
More than one person involved? Location/era/profession relevant? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2009 |
He 1 = He 2 = He 3? All H/A/M? yes to all It 1 = an object? no It 2 = some action involving It 1? yes It 3 = getting hit? yes by It 1? no William Tell relevant? no Not straight: bent? Curved? Skewed? Gay? Is it a physical object that is not straight? A trajectory? A person? Sports relevant? Baseball? trajectory and curved are closest Is he hit by an object? By someone? someone More than one person involved? yes Location/era/profession relevant? modern times | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 834 Registered: 9-2009 |
Anyone relevant besides "he" and "someome"? "Someome"=HAM? Hit: By the body of "someome"? By a specific body part? Are there object(s) invovled? Can it be said that person 2 hit person 1? More thatn 2 people involved? Ws something besides the trajectory also not straight? Something tangible? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 544 Registered: 6-2008 |
The curved trajectory is that of the person who did the hitting? just some part of his body? of the person who got hit? just some part of his body? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1961 Registered: 5-2003 |
Gravity relevant? Was the item he was hit with bigger than a breadbox? Is it expensive? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 149 Registered: 8-2009 |
mistake: he is hit by 2 someones. I guess "someone" doesn't have a real plural but I guess I answered it incorrectly the 1st time Anyone relevant besides "he" and "someome"? yes, see what I wrote in the paragaph above this one "Someome"=HAM? 2x HAF Hit: By the body of "someome"? he wasn't hit by someone's body (i assume you mean like a collision) By a specific body part? yes, although this is an unusual way of saying it Are there object(s) invovled? 1 object is relevant Can it be said that person 2 hit person 1? yes (person 1 = he) More thatn 2 people involved? yes Was something besides the trajectory also not straight? no, and explore what I meant with "not straight", "trajectory" was the closest right answer but not the right answer Something tangible? if this question is about something besides the trajectory that was not straight, then no, that is not presesnt The curved trajectory is that of the person who did the hitting? no, remember you asked this question for when you find out what was not straight! just some part of his body? of the person who got hit? just some part of his body? no to rest Gravity relevant? no Was the item he was hit with bigger than a breadbox? no Is it expensive? you can't buy it | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 561 Registered: 6-2008 |
Whatever wasn't straight, could you see it deviating from straightness with your eye? or would you need some kind of instrument/measuring tool? or is it more metaphorical than that? Did he build/cause(e.g. by launching something) the first "it" (that wasn't straight)? Is he hit by the "someones" accidentally? on purpose (from their POV)? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2009 |
Whatever wasn't straight, could you see it deviating from straightness with your eye? no or would you need some kind of instrument/measuring tool? no, you can't measure it or is it more metaphorical than that? it's not metaphorical, but the concept of "straight" is different from your previous questions Did he build/cause(e.g. by launching something) the first "it" (that wasn't straight)? no Is he hit by the "someones" accidentally? on purpose (from their POV)? on purpose | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 563 Registered: 6-2008 |
Does "straight" refer to the path of an object or person in time? If so, is there a process that would have taken less time had it taken place "straightly"? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 152 Registered: 8-2009 |
Does "straight" refer to the path of an object or person in time? I don't understand the question - a straight path in time means what? If so, is there a process that would have taken less time had it taken place "straightly"? see previous answer | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 567 Registered: 6-2008 |
In other words did some object or being trace out an imaginary "line" through space by moving? An example would be a trip by plane--if you had a stopover that was more or less directly between the start and final destination, your body would have traced out a relatively straight path, unlike if you (for example) went from San Francisco to New York by way of Mexico. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 154 Registered: 8-2009 |
In other words did some object or being trace out an imaginary "line" through space by moving? I understand the question now, yes, there was an object that traveled in a straight line, which is very relevant An example would be a trip by plane--if you had a stopover that was more or less directly between the start and final destination, your body would have traced out a relatively straight path, unlike if you (for example) went from San Francisco to New York by way of Mexico. your other question If so, is there a process that would have taken less time had it taken place "straightly"? no | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 577 Registered: 6-2008 |
"He did it": did something to the object that had traveled? was in the process of traveling? was going to travel? in a non-straight path? did it to some other object? to someone? to himself? Was the hitting meant as a punishment for "doing it anyway"? as a means of knocking something off of him/out of his hands? as part of a prank/joke? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 160 Registered: 8-2009 |
"He did it": did something to the object that had traveled? was in the process of traveling? was going to travel? I'll try to answer it clearly so you can use the answers The object was in the process of traveling and also it had already traveled and it was going to travel even more. He had done something to the object that is very important. in a non-straight path? no for this situation, but also taking the entire traveling of the object into account, it didn't travel only non-straightly, but that's mostly irrelevant did it to some other object? to someone? to himself? not possible to do "it" to an object, and only 1 tangible object is relevant Was the hitting meant as a punishment for "doing it anyway"? yes as a means of knocking something off of him/out of his hands? as part of a prank/joke? no to rest | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 161 Registered: 8-2009 |
"Correction": My last answer with a different answer: did it to some other object? - The answer depends on how you define the "2nd it" on whether you can do it to an object or not. So you can say it's possible to do it to an object, and in that case he did it to this object. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 578 Registered: 6-2008 |
So I gather from your last answers that doing "it" (whether or not the object is considered the target of the action) did not stop the object's movement along the "not straight" path? And so that we don't have to keep saying "not straight", is "curved" an appropriate antonym for "straight" here? is "crooked"? The object that traced out the path in question: was it being transported by a vehicle of some sort? carried by a person? launched through the air? carried by wind? floating in moving water? or could it move by its own power (e.g. using a motor/engine)? Is the total length of the path less than one centimeter? less than one meter? less than one kilometer? less than the circumference of the earth? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 162 Registered: 8-2009 |
So I gather from your last answers that doing "it" (whether or not the object is considered the target of the action) did not stop the object's movement along the "not straight" path? true, in THIS CASE it didn't cause a deviation of the path. And so that we don't have to keep saying "not straight", is "curved" an appropriate antonym for "straight" here? is "crooked"? curved is better, but not accurate enough. So for not it's still 'not straight'. Crooked isn't appropriate. The object that traced out the path in question: was it being transported by a vehicle of some sort? no carried by a person? launched through the air? carried by wind? floating in moving water? no to all or could it move by its own power (e.g. using a motor/engine)? yes Is the total length of the path less than one centimeter? less than one meter? less than one kilometer? in this case, several kilometers less than the circumference of the earth? yes | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 582 Registered: 6-2008 |
curved is better, but not accurate enough. So for not it's still 'not straight'. Crooked isn't appropriate. Was it a series of straight segments, interrupted by sharp turns? Was it moving on land? in the water? in the air? So in some cases doing "it" can result in a deviation of the path of a similar object? Does "it" amount to moving/throwing an object that might intersect the path? communicating something to someone who steers the path of the object? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 163 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was it a series of straight segments, interrupted by sharp turns? yes Was it moving on land? in the water? in the air? land So in some cases doing "it" can result in a deviation of the path of a similar object? yes, but now you're asking about a similar (so, other) object - there was only 1 relevant object Does "it" amount to moving/throwing an object that might intersect the path? no communicating something to someone who steers the path of the object? no, "doing it" isn't that, but "communicating something to someone who steers" surely did happen and is extremely relevant | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 923 Registered: 9-2009 |
Remote control relevant? A contest? Is the moving object smalle then a breadbox? Is it motorized? Is ther a person on/in it? More than one? does it hit something relevant? Go somewhere relevant? Somewhere unintended? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 164 Registered: 8-2009 |
Remote control relevant? A contest? no to all Is the moving object smalle then a breadbox? no Is it motorized? yes Is ther a person on/in it? More than one? yes does it hit something relevant? no Go somewhere relevant? it goes somewhere very relevant Somewhere unintended? no, where it goes is intended, but from a different perspective it's a bit unintended | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 941 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a car? Motorcycle/similar? Was he in/on the vehicle? Were they? Was he driving? Were they telling him where to go? Did he go somewhere else? Which is why they hit him? Did they hit him in a playful manner? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 165 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is it a car? Motorcycle/similar? car Was he in/on the vehicle? Were they? they all were in the car Was he driving? yes Were they telling him where to go? yes Did he go somewhere else? yes, explore Which is why they hit him? yes Did they hit him in a playful manner? yes, it was as punishment (but like i said it didn't hurt much) | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 166 Registered: 8-2009 |
Recap A guy is driving a car with 2 girls in it. They are telling him where to go but he goes somewhere else, so the girls hit him. Why did he go somewhere else? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 595 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was his route not straight in a "local" sense, i.e. he made a turn at an intersection where the girls told him to keep driving straight? or only in a more "global" sense, in that his overall route was not the most direct way of getting somewhere? Would driving "straight" and "not straight" have gotten him to the same final destination, only by different routes? or to different final destinations? Was it the specific route he chose that made the girls playfully upset? or the destination it would lead to? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 169 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was his route not straight in a "local" sense, i.e. he made a turn at an intersection where the girls told him to keep driving straight? yes, a local sense exactly like that, but your example didn't happen or only in a more "global" sense, in that his overall route was not the most direct way of getting somewhere? this also happened as a consequence of the "not straight in a local sense", but is less important. Would driving "straight" and "not straight" have gotten him to the same final destination, only by different routes? or to different final destinations? to different final destinations Was it the specific route he chose that made the girls playfully upset? or the destination it would lead to? this Good questions! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 995 Registered: 9-2009 |
So they wanted him to take them to one place, he took them to another place, and they hit him. Would it have been straight if he had taken them to their desired destination? Did he stop somewhere along the way? Or take a detour? Or go somewhere completely different? Relevant where they wanted to go? Relevant where they actually went? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 170 Registered: 8-2009 |
So they wanted him to take them to one place, he took them to another place, and they hit him. almost correct, they didn't "stay" at a wrong place so he technically didn't take them to a wrong place, but they did pass by a wrong place Would it have been straight if he had taken them to their desired destination? no Did he stop somewhere along the way? irrelevant Or take a detour? yes, on purpose Or go somewhere completely different? no Relevant where they wanted to go? no Relevant where they actually went? yes (as in, they didn't go where they wanted to right away) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1073 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he take the detour to tease them? Did they specifically not want to take the detour? Did they want to avoid the place he passed by? Or were they simply annoyed that he didn't go straight to their intended destination? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did he take the detour to tease them? tease isn't the right word Did they specifically not want to take the detour? true Did they want to avoid the place he passed by? no Or were they simply annoyed that he didn't go straight to their intended destination? yes, explore | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1122 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is annoy the right word? Did he intend to cause negative feelings? Were they annoyed because they: Arrived from another direction? Arrived later? And therefore missed something? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 172 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is annoy the right word? no, the reason he took the detour wasn't to have an effect on them Did he intend to cause negative feelings? previous answers, although another person may want to cause negative feelings because of the girls' behavior, therefore taking the detour Were they annoyed because they: Arrived from another direction? no Arrived later? And therefore missed something? no to all It would be useful to find out what the girls were doing right before he decided to take the detour. | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2010 |
Did they think he wasn't going to take them to their eventual destination? Did he want to see something? To stop somewhere? To take the detour for his own benefit? Did he want them to see something? To simply lengthen the journey for some reason? Were the "girls" (2xHAF, right? Would "women" be more appropriate?) related to him? Friends with him? Hiring him (e.g. taxi driver, bus driver)? Were they behaving badly in any way? Irritating him? Was the hitting aggressive? Angry? Playful? Was the man going to the same place as his passengers, or was he just dropping them off? Were they going to an event? To a specific place? Something with a set start time? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 173 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did they think he wasn't going to take them to their eventual destination? no Did he want to see something? To stop somewhere? no to all To take the detour for his own benefit? no, but there was a "reason" for it Did he want them to see something? To simply lengthen the journey for some reason? no to all Were the "girls" (2xHAF, right? Would "women" be more appropriate?) related to him? irrelevant, yes 2xHAF Friends with him? let's assume friends Hiring him (e.g. taxi driver, bus driver)? no Were they behaving badly in any way? see next answer Irritating him? yes! But how? Was the hitting aggressive? Angry? Playful? playful Was the man going to the same place as his passengers, or was he just dropping them off? same place Were they going to an event? yes, but specifics are irrelevant To a specific place? yes, but specifics are irrelevant Something with a set start time? irrelevant | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 631 Registered: 6-2008 |
Were they aggravating him by: complaining about the length of the drive? moving or waving in such a way as to block his view of something? fiddling with some part of the car ( windshield wipers, radio, air conditioning, etc.)? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 174 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were they aggravating him by: complaining about the length of the drive? moving or waving in such a way as to block his view of something? fiddling with some part of the car ( windshield wipers, radio, air conditioning, etc.)? no to all, it was something they said | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 175 Registered: 8-2009 |
Recap A guy is driving a car with 2 girls in it. They are giving him directions on how to drive. This also happened at some point in time: - The girls somehow irritate the guy (driver) - The guy takes a detour so the girls hit him in a playful way How did they irritate him? Exactly why did he take the detour? | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2010 |
Would any wrong turn by the driver have caused the same reaction? Would they have reacted the same way if he'd just driven round the block? Circled a roundabout? Was the reaction because the detour took them in the direction of something in particular, or just because it was "the wrong way"? Were they being rude to the driver? Were they complaining about him? About his driving? That he was taking too long? Were they giving him directions? That he didn't need? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2009 |
Would any wrong turn by the driver have caused the same reaction? no, because... Would they have reacted the same way if he'd just driven round the block? Circled a roundabout? no to both, it was specific to that situation Was the reaction because the detour took them in the direction of something in particular, or just because it was "the wrong way"? because it was the wrong way, but still in a "special way" Were they being rude to the driver? no Were they complaining about him? About his driving? That he was taking too long? no to all Were they giving him directions? yes That he didn't need? he did need it | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2010 |
Were the directions clear? Helpful? Were the passengers giving the same directions? Were they taking the driver on the most direct route? Did the driver know where he was going at all? Did he recognise the "wrong" turning he took? Because there was something significant about it per se? Or just because they were telling him to go a different way? Did the passengers instantly realise that significance when they turned? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 177 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were the directions clear? no! Helpful? no Were the passengers giving the same directions? no, exactly! Were they taking the driver on the most direct route? they wanted to, but see previous question Did the driver know where he was going at all? he knew the destination but not how to drive there Did he recognise the "wrong" turning he took? yes, he knew it was wrong Because there was something significant about it per se? not because of how it looked Or just because they were telling him to go a different way? yes! now combine this with your previous questions in this post | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 178 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did the passengers instantly realise that significance when they turned? they only realized that they gave the wrong directions (which they did on 1 occasion only) when they both gave different directions at the same time | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2010 |
So they each told him to go a different way at a particular junction? And he, being the funny guy he was, decided to turn the way neither of them had told him to go? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 179 Registered: 8-2009 |
So they each told him to go a different way at a particular junction? yes And he, being the funny guy he was, decided to turn the way neither of them had told him to go? yes, but not because it would be funny but... | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 53 Registered: 1-2010 |
Because he was irritated that they weren't giving him clear directions? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2271 Registered: 5-2003 |
They were talking at cross-purposes? Perhaps using different maps? Did he try to follow both directions at once? Neither? Was he deliberately deviating from their instructions? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2009 |
Because he was irritated that they weren't giving him clear directions? yes, because of something specific that has been mentioned They were talking at cross-purposes? what is "cross-purpose"? Perhaps using different maps? no maps were used Did he try to follow both directions at once? no Neither? yes Was he deliberately deviating from their instructions? yes For clarification, he didn't follow their instructions on only one occasion. | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2010 |
So a man's driving his two female passengers somewhere, but doesn't know the way, so they're giving him directions. At one particular junction, they each tell him to go a different way, so to irritate them, he went the way neither of them had told him to go, at which point they both hit him. Is there anything more we need to discover? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 181 Registered: 8-2009 |
So a man's driving his two female passengers somewhere, but doesn't know the way, so they're giving him directions. At one particular junction, they each tell him to go a different way, so to irritate them, he went the way neither of them had told him to go, at which point they both hit him. exactly Is there anything more we need to discover? yes, explain the title "not straight" to solve this (which should be very easy now) | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 69 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is it that the turn he took would take longer to get to their destination than either of the different directions he'd been given? If not, I'm stumped. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 182 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is it that the turn he took would take longer to get to their destination than either of the different directions he'd been given? yope, if he picked the right one it would be faster, but the wrong one, then it would be longer than his choice If not, I'm stumped. It's really easy when you know the answer Recap A guy is driving a car, and has 2 girls as passengers. He doesn't know the route, so they give him directions. At a certain intersection the 2 girls give different directions. He doesn't know which way to go, so he follows neither of their directions. Both girls hit him for this! What's "not straight"? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2456 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with the phrase "Straight Forward" as in simple to understand? | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 71 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is the route he takes not straight? Are the routes they suggest not straight? Do his passengers tell him to go in opposite directions (one left and one right), so he splits the difference and goes straight on? Is it that they've come to a ring road, and can't agree which way to go round it, so he heads through the city instead? | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2010 |
Or do they come to a road (dual carriageway or something), both know they need that road, but can't agree which way, so to avoid getting stuck going down the wrong carriageway, he goes straight on? We established that he doesn't just circle a roundabout, right? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 183 Registered: 8-2009 |
Anything to do with the phrase "Straight Forward" as in simple to understand? no Is it that they've come to a ring road, and can't agree which way to go round it, so he heads through the city instead? no Or do they come to a road (dual carriageway or something), both know they need that road, but can't agree which way, so to avoid getting stuck going down the wrong carriageway, he goes straight on? no We established that he doesn't just circle a roundabout, right? no roundabout relevant ***** SPOILER ***** Is the route he takes not straight? no Are the routes they suggest not straight? yes Do his passengers tell him to go in opposite directions (one left and one right), so he splits the difference and goes straight on? yes One girl tells him to go left, the other tells him to go right... he knows the right route isn't straight but since they can't come to an agreement he just goes straight out of frustration. So they both hit him! | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2010 |
Light dawns! I kept reading the statement as referring to the driver knowing that the route he was taking wasn't straight, as in direct, the quickest way, when all the time, "it" referred to the right way, not the way he went. IYSWIM... | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 184 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did you like the puzzle? | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 81 Registered: 1-2010 |
Yes, it was good. Quite a simple idea, but it worked well. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 185 Registered: 8-2009 |
Thx |
