| Author | Message | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1483 Registered: 11-2008 |
When he won, he threw a party and paid the damages. How come? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 609 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did the party cause the damage which he paid? Or his efforts to win? Or the winning itself? Did he win money? Another prize? Relevant? Did he win a bet? A competition? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1484 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did the party cause the damage which he paid? No Or his efforts to win? No Or the winning itself? This Did he win money? Very likely Another prize? Relevant? No Did he win a bet? This A competition? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2037 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the damage physical? Mental? Financial? To people? To objects? Was anyone (or anything) injured? Killed? How many relevant characters - 1, 2, 3, more? True story? Fiction? FYOI? Location relevant? Era? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1485 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the damage physical? Yes Mental? Possibly but irr Financial? Yes To people? Yes To objects? YesWas anyone (or anything) injured? Yes Killed? Yes How many relevant characters - 1, 2, 3, more? Let us say five, apart from Willie True story? AFAIK, yes Fiction? FYOI? Location relevant? Yes but rather in general terms; there are many locations all over the world where this could have happened Era? Yes; and, to save you trouble, it happened in the seventies or eighties of the 20th century. | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 611 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the damage caused by an accident? A natural disaster? A crime? A war? Willie = he(1) = he(2)? Is he(2) legally obliged to pay the damages? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1489 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the damage caused by an accident? Yes A natural disaster? A crime? A war? No to the rest Willie = he(1) = he(2)? Yes Is he(2) legally obliged to pay the damages? Yes | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 612 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is Willie responsible for the accident? Did Willie bet that the accident would happen? That something would happen which in fact happened as a consequence of the accident? That caused the accident? Contributed to some of the consequences of the accident? Did Willie expect from the beginning to win his bet? Did he hope to win it? Hope to lose it? Could the betting also be described as contracting an insurance? Is there something particularily relevant about the party? Were those killed because of the accident HAM? Those injured? Are cars involved in the accident? Other means of transportation? Machines? Weapons? Explosives? Other dangerous chemicals? Electricity? Heavy things falling down? Buildings collapsing? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1490 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is Willie responsible for the accident? Yes - at least the court thought so Did Willie bet that the accident would happen? No That something would happen which in fact happened as a consequence of the accident? No That caused the accident? Yes Contributed to some of the consequences of the accident? Yes- in fact, to all of them Did Willie expect from the beginning to win his bet? Very likely Did he hope to win it? Yes Hope to lose it? No Could the betting also be described as contracting an insurance? In what sense? Is there something particularily relevant about the party? Very much so Were those killed because of the accident HAM? No Those injured? Yes Are cars involved in the accident? Yes Other means of transportation? Yesish Machines? No Weapons? No Explosives? No Other dangerous chemicals? No Electricity? No Heavy things falling down? Yesish Buildings collapsing? No Very clever questions! | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 613 Registered: 5-2009 |
How many cars were involved in the accident? - LTPF list of natural numbers, please. Are all cars involved common passenger cars? Lorries involved? Buses? Caravans? Did Willie drive one of the cars involved? Influence its driver? Do something to a road (they drive on roads?) the cars drive on? Other means of transportation are yesishly involved. Is the "ish" part due to doubts whether the relevant device is a means of transportation? Or whether a certain thing is really involved in the accident? Does a car or yesishly means of transportation crash into something? Into something which is *not* a means of transportation? If so (for the last two questions): Do parts of the thing fall down? The whole thing? Party = an event where people socialise? Throw a party = organise a party? Were those killed by the accident H? A? M? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1491 Registered: 11-2008 |
How many cars were involved in the accident? - LTPF list of natural numbers, please. Just one Are all cars involved common passenger cars? Yes Lorries involved? Buses? Caravans? No to rest Did Willie drive one of the cars involved? No Influence its driver? No Do something to a road (they drive on roads?) No the cars drive on? No Other means of transportation are yesishly involved. Is the "ish" part due to doubts whether the relevant device is a means of transportation? This Or whether a certain thing is really involved in the accident? Does a car or yesishly means of transportation crash into something? Yes Into something which is *not* a means of transportation? No If so (for the last two questions): Do parts of the thing fall down? The whole thing? This, with svv of "thing" Party = an event where people socialise? Yes Throw a party = organise a party? Yes Were those killed by the accident H?No A? Yes M?Yes | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 596 Registered: 6-2008 |
Is the other (yesish) means of transportation a bicycle? unicycle? a decorative vehicle such as a parade float or similar? a portable vending stand? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1492 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the other (yesish) means of transportation a bicycle? unicycle? a decorative vehicle such as a parade float or similar? a portable vending stand? Neither, sorry | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 614 Registered: 5-2009 |
The yesish means of transportation: does it usually transport people? Goods? Move around without transporting anything else? Does it move at all (unlike e.g. a pipeline)? Is the relevant movement mostly horizontal? Vertical? Was it logically possible to win Willies bet without an accident? Physically? Did Willie expect that winning the bet would mean that an accident would happen? Are those injured in the accident invited to the party? Do they attend? Is it relevant that certain other persons are invited to the party? Attend it? Is the party a result of the settlement of the accident in court? Are animals killed in the accident? If so: cattle? pets? wild animals? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1493 Registered: 11-2008 |
The yesish means of transportation: does it usually transport people? Yes, with svv of transport Goods? Possibly but provided it transports also people; not so frequent, though Move around without transporting anything else? No Does it move at all (unlike e.g. a pipeline)? Yes, it does Is the relevant movement mostly horizontal? Vertical? This Was it logically possible to win Willies bet without an accident? Yes Physically? Yes Did Willie expect that winning the bet would mean that an accident would happen? Absolutely not Are those injured in the accident invited to the party? Possibly but irr Do they attend? Irr Is it relevant that certain other persons are invited to the party?Yes Attend it? Yes Is the party a result of the settlement of the accident in court? No Are animals killed in the accident? Yes If so: cattle? pets? wild animals? This | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 597 Registered: 6-2008 |
An elevator? escalator? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1495 Registered: 11-2008 |
An elevator? escalator? No; our yesishly means of transportation moves less vertically than this; it is also able to move horizontally but has been constructed to move mainly almost vertically | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 616 Registered: 5-2009 |
A ski-lift? Chair-lift? Ropeway? Did Willie bet that he would be able to do something? That someone else would be able to do something? That someone else would *not* be able to do something? Is Willie's betting opponent invited to the party? Does he/she attend? Relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1496 Registered: 11-2008 |
A ski-lift? No but getting much warmer Chair-lift? Ropeway? No to rest Did Willie bet that he would be able to do something? YesThat someone else would be able to do something? but mostly this That someone else would *not* be able to do something? No Is Willie's betting opponent invited to the party? Very likely Does he/she attend? Very likely Relevant? Not really | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2053 Registered: 5-2003 |
A jump of some sort? Does Willie also pay restitution to the families of the dead? Does a vehicle hit an animal at some point? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1501 Registered: 11-2008 |
A jump of some sort? No but OTRT Does Willie also pay restitution to the families of the dead? No Does a vehicle hit an animal at some point?There is a collision of a vehicle and an animal | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2064 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the location relevant? The terrain? The weather? Mountains, cliffs, or avalanches relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1507 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the location relevant? Only in general terms The terrain? Very much so The weather? Very much so Mountains This, cliffs, or avalanches relevant? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 623 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the driver of the car invited to the party? Attends it? Relevant? Weather: Fog? Snow? Rain? Hail? Another kind of precipitation? Thunderstorm? Sunshine? Wind (or lack of it) relevant? Temperature? Air pressure? Atmospheric humidity? Is the relevant thing about the terrain that it is mountainous, or is there more to it? Are the killed animals typically only founs in the mountains? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1524 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the driver of the car invited to the party? Attends it? Relevant? Might be either way but irrelevant Weather: Fog? Snow? This Rain? Hail? Another kind of precipitation? Thunderstorm? Sunshine? Wind (or lack of it) relevant? No Temperature? Only in general terms Air pressure? Atmospheric humidity? Neither Is the relevant thing about the terrain that it is mountainous, or is there more to it? Just this Are the killed animals typically only founs in the mountains? No, and beware a FA | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 624 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is there only one animal killed? More than one? Is it relevant that it is snowing when the accident happens? That the ground is covered with snow? Is the location of the party relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1528 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is there only one animal killed? This More than one? Is it relevant that it is snowing when the accident happens? Irr That the ground is covered with snow? But this is relevant Is the location of the party relevant? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2074 Registered: 5-2003 |
Ice relevant? Slipping relevant? Roads relevant (if so, are they in good condition)? Are the mountains particularly rough and difficult terrain? More so than other mountains? Relevant? Did this occur in a rural area? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1532 Registered: 11-2008 |
Ice relevant? Slipping relevant? Neither Roads relevant Yes(if so, are they in good condition)? Assume yes Are the mountains particularly rough and difficult terrain? No More so than other mountains? No, just plain old mountains Relevant? No Did this occur in a rural area? Irr | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 628 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did the snow on the ground make it impossible for the driver to see something? Was it legal to drive where the driver drove (what a sentence...)? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1534 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did the snow on the ground make it impossible for the driver to see something? No Was it legal to drive where the driver drove (what a sentence...)? Absolutely | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1003 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the mostly vertical means of transportation usually used to transport people: upwards? Downwards? Both ways equally? does it have an engine or motor? Or is it operated by human power? Or gravity? Winter sports relevant? Climbing? Flying? Parachuting? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1559 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the mostly vertical means of transportation usually used to transport people: upwards? Downwards? Mostly this Both ways equally? You must go up to be able to go down; you technically can use the means of transportation to go up, but you usually don't does it have an engine or motor? No Or is it operated by human power? Partly this Or gravity? but mostly this Winter sports relevant? Yes Climbing? Flying? Parachuting? But none of these | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1005 Registered: 9-2009 |
Skis? Snowboard? Jumping across a road relevant? Other combination of winter sports and road traffic? Is that what led to the accident? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1560 Registered: 11-2008 |
Skis? This Snowboard? Jumping across a road relevant? Not exactly but OTRT Other combination of winter sports and road traffic? Yes Is that what led to the accident? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1007 Registered: 9-2009 |
Skiing: across the road? Along the road? Overtaking a car on skis? Beating a car across the road? Being pulled by a car? Was it a race of skier vs. car? Was the motorist: startled? Distracted? Was the animal in the road? Did the animal get in the way of the car? Or did the car change course and hit the animal? Did the skier startle the animal? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1562 Registered: 11-2008 |
Skiing: across the road? Thisish Along the road? No Overtaking a car on skis? No Beating a car across the road? I am not sure how you mean this - can you please specify? Being pulled by a car? No Was it a race of skier vs. car? No Was the motorist: startled? Distracted? At the moment of the collision, neither Was the animal in the road? Yesish Did the animal get in the way of the car? Noish Or did the car change course and hit the animal? No Did the skier startle the animal? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1010 Registered: 9-2009 |
Beating the car = trying to cross the road in front of the car without being hit. Is the car going: uphill? Downhill? Or is the road level? Was more than one person injured? Was the skier injured? The motorist? Is jumping on skis involved? Is the skier relevant to the bet? The motorist? The animal? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1566 Registered: 11-2008 |
Beating the car = trying to cross the road in front of the car without being hit. I see. Then, no Is the car going: uphill? Downhill? Or is the road level? Approximately this Was more than one person injured? Assume yes Was the skier injured? Yes indeed The motorist? Yes Is jumping on skis involved? No Is the skier relevant to the bet? Yes The motorist? The animal?Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1012 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the animal smaller than a: mouse? Cat? Dog? Deer? Horse? Moose? Elephant? Is it: bird? Mammal? Reptile? Insect? Other? Did the skier try to do something to the animal? Scare it? Capture it? Race it? Avoid it? If not for the car, would the skier have escaped injury? Did the skier hit something relevant? The car? Did he lose control? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1569 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the animal smaller than a: mouse? Cat? Dog? Something between this Deer? and this Horse? Moose? Elephant? Is it: bird? Mammal? This Reptile? Insect? Other? Did the skier try to do something to the animal? No Scare it? No Capture it? No Race it? No Avoid it? No If not for the car, would the skier have escaped injury? Very likely, yes Did the skier hit something relevant? Yes The car? Yes Did he lose control? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1015 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the skier hit the car: before it hit the animal? After? Was the car standing still when he hit it? Did he expect it to be gone when he arrived at that spot? Or did he not see it until it was too late? Was he going to come close to the animal? Was the bet abou what would happen when skier and animal crossed paths? Is the animal a carnivore? Can it be domesticated? Had it escaped from somewhere? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1572 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did the skier hit the car: before it hit the animal? No After? No Was the car standing still when he hit it? No Did he expect it to be gone when he arrived at that spot? No Or did he not see it until it was too late? Assume this, but there is more to it Was he going to come close to the animal? Difficult to answer... and beware a FA Was the bet abou what would happen when skier and animal crossed paths? No Is the animal a carnivore? No Can it be domesticated? Yes, it can, and in fact it was Had it escaped from somewhere? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1020 Registered: 9-2009 |
Before the accident, is the animal: running loose? Running away from something? Or is it in the car? With the skier? With someone else? Restrained? Is it owned by anyone involved? Is it a pig? Only one animal involved, right? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1574 Registered: 11-2008 |
Before the accident, is the animal: running loose? No Running away from something? No Or is it in the car? No With the skier? CA With someone else? Depends how long before the accident Restrained? No Is it owned by anyone involved? Assume yes Is it a pig? Yes indeed Only one animal involved, right? Right | ||
| Probably_monty_hall (Probably_monty_hall)
New member Username: Probably_monty_hall Post Number: 132 Registered: 10-2009 |
Is the pig the skier? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1575 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the pig the skier? Yes indeed! | ||
| Probably_monty_hall (Probably_monty_hall)
New member Username: Probably_monty_hall Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2009 |
Perhaps "he" bet that he could train a pig to ski. He was successful in doing so, but the pig skied into a car causing an accident? So he had to pay the damages? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1578 Registered: 11-2008 |
Perhaps "he" bet that he could train a pig to ski. He was successful in doing so, but the pig skied into a car causing an accident? So he had to pay the damages? Exactly so, Monty. You summed it up so concisely that I do not even need to publish a *****************SPOILER*************** Willie is working in the boiler room of a mountain chalet. He is very fond of jokes, pranks and adores betting. As he is a good skier, and the work in the boiler room is not very challenging, he bets with the cook that he would be able to train a domesticated wild boar to ski. He makes special skis for him, fastens his hooves to them, and pushes him down the slope. Unfortunately, at that time, a car appears on the road crossing the slope, full of hunters returning from a celebration. The pig collides with the car, makes a hole in it, kills itself, and the passengers suffer minor injuries and a major shock. Willie takes the dead pig, prepares tasty food for his friends out of its meat to celebrate his victory - and has to pay damages for the car and the hunters' injuries. Thank you all for participating. I hope you did not find this puzzle too boaring :-)) | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 602 Registered: 6-2008 |
Willie better make sure to look for cars next time! |
