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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5054 Registered: 8-2001 |
Matteo's profession causes many people to insult him, although they see nothing wrong with his profession or with his being in it. How come?? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 876 Registered: 10-2008 |
Sounds like my days canvassing and asking people for donations... Does everyone in this profession get insulted? Is it an inherent pert of the profession? Does the profession deal with language and insults? Are the insults part of some kind of role-playing? Are the insulters people with the same/similar job? Do they see their statements as insults? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1186 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they insult him directly? Or do they say insulting things about him to others? Do they insult him face to face? Does he enjoy his job? Is it generally considered an unpleasant job? Are the insults personal? Does he insult people as well? Is he a rapper? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5055 Registered: 8-2001 |
Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 876 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 9:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Sounds like my days canvassing and asking people for donations... But those people probably did dislike what you were doing, no? Does everyone in this profession get insulted? no Is it an inherent pert of the profession? noDoes the profession deal with language and insults? no Are the insults part of some kind of role-playing? no Are the insulters people with the same/similar job? no Do they see their statements as insults? yes Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1186 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 9:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do they insult him directly? yesOr do they say insulting things about him to others? possiblyDo they insult him face to face? yes Does he enjoy his job? irrelIs it generally considered an unpleasant job? irrel, but in fact many but not all people consider it unpleasant Are the insults personal? possiblyDoes he insult people as well? irrel Is he a rapper? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1187 Registered: 9-2009 |
Can the people insulting him be described as his: patients? Clients? Customers? Coworkers? Superiors? Bosses? In the group that insults him, do all people insult him? Or only some? Can he avoid being insulted? Lessen the amount of insults? Protesters relevant? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 878 Registered: 10-2008 |
Actually, most people supported what I was canvassing for, a clean energy bill, but were just strongly opposed to involving their own money in it. =) Do most of his insulters say the same thing? Are they angry with him when they say it? Are they simply stating what they see as fact? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5056 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1187 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 10:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Can the people insulting him be described as his: patients? no Clients? no Customers? noCoworkerssome may beSuperiors? some may beBosses?some may be In the group that insults him, do all people insult him?the people who inslut him don't form "group" in any other way Or only some? see previous answer Can he avoid being insulted? not in any relevant wayLessen the amount of insults? dittoProtesters relevant? no Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 878 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 10:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Actually, most people supported what I was canvassing for, a clean energy bill, but were just strongly opposed to involving their own money in it. =) Do most of his insulters say the same thing? noAre they angry with him when they say it? irrel Are they simply stating what they see as fact? irrel | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1188 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is his profession: Artistic? Musical? Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman? Banking? Financial? Real estate? Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist? Computer related? Hardware? Information technology? Construction? Craftsman? Criminal? Jailbird? Education? Academic Research? Entertainment? Media? Executive? Management? Hospitality? Travel? Food Service? Law enforcement? Police? Legal Services? Manufacturing? Distributions? Medical? Health Services? Politics? Government? Military? Sales? Marketing? Tradesman? Religion? Retired person? Occupational disease? Sports? Student? Trainee? Teaching? Child care? Technical? Science? Engineering? Transportation? Unemployed? Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter? Other? Are he insulted because: who he is? What he does? How he does it? What he represents? Who he associates with? Time period relevant? Location? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5057 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1188 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 11:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is his profession: Artistic? Musical? Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman? Banking? Financial? Real estate? Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist? Computer related? Hardware? Information technology? Construction? Craftsman? Criminal? Jailbird? Education? Academic Research? Entertainment? Media? Executive? Management? Hospitality? Travel? Food Service? Law enforcement? Police? Legal Services? Manufacturing? Distributions? Medical? Health Services? Politics? Government? Military? Sales? Marketing? Tradesman? Religion? Retired person? Occupational disease? Sports? Student? Trainee? Teaching? Child care? Technical? Science? Engineering? Transportation? Unemployed? Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter? Other? I was wondering when someone would get to this list. He's in sports. Are he insulted because: who he is? no What he does? yes How he does it? noishWhat he represents? no Who he associates with? no Time period relevant? I know that this puzzle works in the contemporary USA & I don't know where else Location? See previous answer. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 880 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is he an athelete? Is he insulted by an opposing team? By his own team? By owners/managers of his team? By fans? Is he being insulted to make others look better? Because of his performance? Because of the sport he plays? Because it is a matter of tradition? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5058 Registered: 8-2001 |
Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 880 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 11:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is he an athelete? yes Is he insulted by an opposing team? noBy his own team? noBy owners/managers of his team? no By fans? possibly Is he being insulted to make others look better? noBecause of his performance? no Because of the sport he plays? yes Because it is a matter of tradition? no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2010 |
Does he play soccer? Am. football? Baseball? Tennis? Rugby? Golf? Skiing? Swimming? Basketball? Lateral thinking puzzles? Is he insulted by his opponents? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5059 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 1:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does he play soccer? Am. football? Baseball? Tennis? Rugby? Golf? Skiing? Swimming? Basketball? Lateral thinking puzzles? None of the above Is he insulted by his opponents?possibly but not primarily | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1192 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is a ball involved? Other equipment? Is it a team sport? Do the insults have any effect on his performance? Some other person's performance? Are they said when he's doing the sport? Are they meant to make him angry? Is he good at his sport? Does it mainly require: strength? Stamina? Agility? Precision? Intelligence? Wrestling relevant? | ||
| Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2010 |
He's not insulted by an opposing team or his own team, but he's possibly (although not primarily) insulted by his opponents? Does he compete as an individual? Does he have some sort of official role, like a referee? Does his profession relate to a specific sport, or is it more general? Are we likely to require knowledge of US sports? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5061 Registered: 8-2001 |
Torquemada (Torquemada) New member Username: Torquemada Post Number: 1192 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 8:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is a ball involved? no Other equipment? yesIs it a team sport? no Do the insults have any effect on his performance? irrel Some other person's performance? no Are they said when he's doing the sport? possibly but not necessarily or even primarily Are they meant to make him angry? irrelIs he good at his sport? yesDoes it mainly require: strength? yesStamina yes? Agility? yes Precision? yesishIntelligence? no Wrestling relevant? no but you're ORT Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 9:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) He's not insulted by an opposing team or his own team, That's right, because he doesn't have a team. but he's possibly (although not primarily) insulted by his opponents? yes Does he compete as an individual? no Does he have some sort of official role, like a referee? His only official role is as an athlete Does his profession relate to a specific sport, or is it more general? a specific sport Are we likely to require knowledge of US sports? This sport is internationally known. Some specific American knowledge would help, but you can guess it out without specialized knowledge--that's why it's a lateral puzzle! | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1546 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is he a boxer? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5062 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1546 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 7:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is he a boxer? yes | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 253 Registered: 12-2008 |
Is the insult linked to boxing terminology? For example, calling him a 'light-weight' or 'feather-weight'? Are they insulting him because they dislike him? Would what they say still be insulting if said to another boxer? to a non-boxer? Does the insult refer to his skill as a boxer? To the possibility of brain damage as a boxer? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5066 Registered: 8-2001 |
Oisin (Oisin) New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 253 Registered: 12-2008 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 9:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the insult linked to boxing terminology? no For example, calling him a 'light-weight' or 'feather-weight'?no Are they insulting him because they dislike him? irrelWould what they say still be insulting if said to another boxer?yes to a non-boxer? yesDoes the insult refer to his skill as a boxer? noTo the possibility of brain damage as a boxer? no | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 886 Registered: 10-2008 |
Does this insult relate to recognizing or not recognizing him on the street? For example, a comment about how he looks different in the ring? Does it have to do with an assumed personality type of boxers? For example, people assume he's an angry person? Or that he can't control his temper? Is he being compared to someone else? A famous boxer? Someone in another sport? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2448 Registered: 1-2007 |
Could a wrestler be similarly insulted? or a martial arts combatent? Has Matteo any relevant nickname? Do the insulters use any play on words or pun to insult him? Has he a boxing related surname e.g. Ring or Bell? Are the insults designed to hurt him or could it be seen as a bit of friendly joshing that he takes personally or overreacts to ? Would most people be as insulted as Matteo? One other idea, is Matteo's race relevant? Lack of boxing success by white people relevant? Is he white and when people meet him they say something like "oh so you're a boxing champ I thought you'd be black or hispanic? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5072 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2448 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could a wrestler be similarly insulted? yopeor a martial arts combatent? yope. I think you probably have a false assumptiuon here Has Matteo any relevant nickname? noDo the insulters use any play on words or pun to insult him? no Has he a boxing related surname e.g. Ring or Bell? no Are the insults designed to hurt him yesor could it be seen as a bit of friendly joshing that he takes personally or overreacts to ? no Would most people be as insulted as Matteo? yes One other idea, is Matteo's race relevant? no Lack of boxing success by white people relevant? no Is he white irrel and when people meet him they say something like "oh so you're a boxing champ I thought you'd be black or hispanic? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1197 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would people still insult him, if he wasn't a boxer? Do they insult him for something he is or does? Or is not/does not? Relevant when the insults started? Did they start when he became a boxer? After a certain event? Boxing related event? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5075 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1197 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would people still insult him, if he wasn't a boxer? no Do they insult him for something he is or does? irrelOr is not/does not? irrel Relevant when the insults started? yesDid they start when he became a boxer? yes After a certain event? see previous answer Boxing related event? see previous answer but one | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 956 Registered: 7-2001 |
are the insults implying that he is lazy? stupid? dishonest? fat? incompetent? poor at his job? ugly? vain? sly? poor? do they imply he is inadequate physically in some way? mentally? intellectually? do they imply he is unethical in some way? do the insults come at any particular time? associated with a particular activity he does? a place he goes? something he says? are the insults always the same? expressed in the same way? do they just assume that he has become a boxer because there were no other life opportunities open to him? that he became a boxer to escape a disadvantaged life? that if he hadn't become a boxer he would instead have entered a life of crime? or poverty? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5080 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 956 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) are the insults implying that he is lazy? stupid? dishonest? fat? incompetent? poor at his job? ugly? vain? sly? poor? do they imply he is inadequate physically in some way? mentally? intellectually? do they imply he is unethical in some way? The content of the insults is irrel! do the insults come at any particular time? no associated with a particular activity he does? a place he goes? something he says?The content of the insults is irrel! are the insults always the same? noexpressed in the same way? no do they just assume that he has become a boxer because there were no other life opportunities open to him? that he became a boxer to escape a disadvantaged life? that if he hadn't become a boxer he would instead have entered a life of crime? or poverty?The content of the insults is irrel! | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 959 Registered: 7-2001 |
Oh dear - that's a whole promising thread of thought I can't follow then.. OK - another thread... does he now get insulted because some macho people might like to be seen to insult a big strong man? or do people insult him with the thought that he is very unlikely to fight back because of his recognised superior strength and ability - ie it would be seen as an unfair fight if he hit back? do people feel safe if they insult him? rightly? do they feel he expects it? that it is morally OK to insult him? that he won't mind? that others will be impressed? are they trying to wind him up so that he hits out at them? do they do it as a joke? just to see what happens? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5083 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 959 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Oh dear - that's a whole promising thread of thought I can't follow then.. OK - another thread... does he now get insulted because some macho people might like to be seen to insult a big strong man? no or do people insult him with the thought that he is very unlikely to fight back because of his recognised superior strength and ability yes - ie it would be seen as an unfair fight if he hit back? yesish, but there's a much more specific reason here. The questions in this paragraph are VERY, VERY ORT. do people feel safe if they insult him? yes rightly? yesdo they feel he expects it? npothat it is morally OK to insult him? no that he won't mind? no that others will be impressed? no are they trying to wind him up so that he hits out at them? nodo they do it as a joke? nojust to see what happens? no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 961 Registered: 7-2001 |
I have always beleived that a boxer could be in big trouble legally if he hits someone as his fists can be considered 'offensive weapons'? is this relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5084 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 961 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I have always beleived that a boxer could be in big trouble legally if he hits someone as his fists can be considered 'offensive weapons'? yesis this relevant? yes *******SPOILER ***************** Clever Hannah triumphs yet again!! In the USA (& perhaps elsewhere as well), a boxer who gets into a fistfight outside the ring is committing a felony: "assault with a deadly weapon" because a boxer's hands count as deadly weapons! So, knowing that Matteo is a boxer, his fellow Americans feel free to insult him because he can't give them a punch in the jaw (or elsewhere). Thanks for sticking with it, everyone & for solving it, Hannah, & you know where my new puzzle is. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 895 Registered: 10-2008 |
Excellent puzzle! I'll have to try that on my cousin the boxer... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5098 Registered: 8-2001 |
Thanks! Please check out my new ones. |
