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Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 105 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 9:57 pm: |      |
I used to have a scrund about California. What could it be? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 106 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 9:59 pm: |      |
AARRGGHH!! My name! I forgot it AGAIN!!!!!! |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2207 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 1:00 am: |      |
How could you possibly forget your name? You chose it, didn't you? :p Are you being deliberately vague here? For example, could this scrund be about the history of California? The flora/fauna of California? The population of California? Or is it a scrund about something very general or basic that applies to the entire state, such as what the name "California" means? Is it about a city? Disney? Hollywood? Mountains? Redwoods? The ocean? The Colorado River? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 109 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 7:42 pm: |      |
How could you possibly forget your name? You chose it, didn't you? :p Good one. Are you being deliberately vague here? aye. For example, could this scrund be about the history of California? The flora/fauna of California? The population of California? none of these, though. Or is it a scrund about something very general or basic that applies to the entire state, such as what the name "California" means? nay. Is it about a city? Disney? Hollywood? Mountains? Redwoods? The ocean? The Colorado River? none of these. |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 899 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 9:03 pm: |      |
Did you have this scrund as a kid? Is it one that only a small child would have? Or could a adult easily have it? Does it have to do with the physical placement of California in the world? With its capital? Its general geography? The beaches? The people? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 114 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 9:27 pm: |      |
Did you have this scrund as a kid? I did. Is it one that only a small child would have? Or could a adult easily have it? both could have it. Does it have to do with the physical placement of California in the world? This, I guess. With its capital? Its general geography? Define. The beaches? The people? no to all the rest. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2450 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:09 am: |      |
Fault Lines relevant? Earthquakes? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 119 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 7:37 pm: |      |
Fault Lines relevant? Earthquakes? nope to both. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1557 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 9:11 pm: |      |
Geography: Physical geographical features (e.g. rivers, lakes, mountains, oceans, etc)? Or physical geographical orientation relative to other things on the globe? Political boundaries (e.g. state lines, county lines, city limits, etc)? Social geography distributions (e.g. distribution patterns of race, ethnicity, income, political affiliation, education level, etc).? Climate? Weather? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 120 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:16 am: |      |
Geography: Physical geographical features (e.g. rivers, lakes, mountains, oceans, etc)? no. Or physical geographical orientation relative to other things on the globe? I suppose this. Political boundaries (e.g. state lines this..., county lines and this., city limits, etc)? Social geography distributions (e.g. distribution patterns of race, ethnicity, income, political affiliation, education level, etc).? Climate? Weather? no to rest. |
Torquemada (Torquemada)
New member Username: Torquemada
Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 8:50 am: |      |
Anything to do with the size of California? In comparison with other states? Gerrymandering? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2214 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:23 pm: |      |
Anything to do with its shape? How it was once part of Mexico? Its relationship with other states? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 126 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 1:19 am: |      |
Anything to do with the size of California? In comparison with other states? Gerrymandering? none of the above. Anything to do with its shape? How it was once part of Mexico? Its relationship with other states? this last one is closest. No to all the rest. |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 903 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 3:03 pm: |      |
Did you think it was somewhere else in the US than where it is? That it was a city, county, or region within another state? Or that it wasn't part of the US? Is another place called "California" relevant? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 131 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 7:39 pm: |      |
Did you think it was somewhere else in the US than where it is? That it was a city, county, or region within another state? Or that it wasn't part of the US? Is another place called "California" relevant? no to everything in this post, believe it or not. HINT: Remember that county lines are relevant. |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 632 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 5:41 am: |      |
Are any of the following relevant? The number of counties that have (at least) one border along the ocean? The number of counties one must pass through to travel between the northern and southern borders? The relative populations of several (or all) of the counties? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 134 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 2:11 pm: |      |
Are any of the following relevant? The number of counties that have (at least) one border along the ocean? The number of counties one must pass through to travel between the northern and southern borders? The relative populations of several (or all) of the counties? no to all. Sorry! HINT: It might be helpful to look at a map of the counties in California. |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 633 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 6:04 pm: |      |
Is it about specific counties? or the counties in general? Just a guess: Maybe you thought that Orange County was the largest county in southern California, since it is by far the most mentioned in popular media, and has become almost synonymous with the area? |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 634 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 6:08 pm: |      |
...aside of course from Los Angeles, but while the city is mentioned a lot, the surrounding county seems less "famous" than OC. |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 136 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 10:56 pm: |      |
Is it about specific counties? or the counties in general? I guess you could say it is about several counties, but mostly county lines. Just a guess: Maybe you thought that Orange County was the largest county in southern California, since it is by far the most mentioned in popular media, and has become almost synonymous with the area? nope, but good guess. ...aside of course from Los Angeles, but while the city is mentioned a lot, the surrounding county seems less "famous" than OC. I agree. But this has nothing to do with the answer. Again, look at a blank map of California, like the one at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Blank_California_Map.svg/508px-Blank_California_Map.svg.png |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 635 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:05 pm: |      |
The only glaringly obvious thing is the fact that there seems to be a series of county lines that all fall on the same east-west line, roughly along the division of northern and southern California. It seems in fact they may not <i>exactly<i> be on the same line. However, this seems an unlikely thing to have a scrund about, as it would seem few people would actually care enough about the geometry of borders to develop a deeply held belief about them being collinear (or not). |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2229 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 12:54 am: |      |
Did you think that the largest counties were the most heavily populated? Did you think that they had some relevance other than as counties (for example that they also represented lines between Congressional districts? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 140 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 11:30 pm: |      |
The only glaringly obvious thing is the fact that there seems to be a series of county lines that all fall on the same east-west line, roughly along the division of northern and southern California. It seems in fact they may not <i>exactly<i> be on the same line. However, this seems an unlikely thing to have a scrund about, as it would seem few people would actually care enough about the geometry of borders to develop a deeply held belief about them being collinear (or not). You're right. This is relevant. Did you think that the largest counties were the most heavily populated? no. Did you think that they had some relevance other than as counties yes, but beware of FA. (for example that they also represented lines between Congressional districts? not this, though. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2255 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 11:39 pm: |      |
Are the reasons for laying out collinear borders relevant? In some cases there are political reasons (American states in the West, for example, are on average three or four degrees on a side for reasons of making them roughly equal in size). There are reasons created by patterns of settlement (for example the 160-acre parcels that divided so much of the Midwest into farmland.) I once read a book about the borders of the states; but haven't seen anything similar about their division into counties. |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 931 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 2:35 pm: |      |
Did you think that the collinear county line was actually a state line: that Northern and Southern California were two states? Is the one completely horziontal line the only relevant one, or are other county lines relevant? Was the scrund about why this line was so horizontal? Did you think it divided two types of Californians? Two types of physical geography? |
Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 306 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 2:53 pm: |      |
Does this have anything to do with Baja California? Did you think that Baja was part of the US? because it is also "California"? Did you think this horizontal line across CA marked the border between CA and Baja CA? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 145 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:48 pm: |      |
Are the reasons for laying out collinear borders relevant? In some cases there are political reasons (American states in the West, for example, are on average three or four degrees on a side for reasons of making them roughly equal in size). There are reasons created by patterns of settlement (for example the 160-acre parcels that divided so much of the Midwest into farmland.) no to all. I once read a book about the borders of the states; but haven't seen anything similar about their division into counties. I read this book too, and if you read it, you know about something else relevant in this puzzle. Did you think that the collinear county line was actually a state line: that Northern and Southern California were two states? no. Is the one completely horziontal line the only relevant one, or are other county lines relevant? yesish. Was the scrund about why this line was so horizontal? Did you think it divided two types of Californians? Two types of physical geography? no to all. Does this have anything to do with Baja California? Did you think that Baja was part of the US? because it is also "California"? Did you think this horizontal line across CA marked the border between CA and Baja CA? no to all. |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee
Post Number: 436 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 4:20 am: |      |
Did you think this part of California used to belong to another state? Or another country? We joke that one day California will fall off the map...did you think that this would be a good dividing line for that to happen? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 150 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 2:13 pm: |      |
Did you think this part of California used to belong to another state? no. Or another country? no. We joke that one day California will fall off the map...did you think that this would be a good dividing line for that to happen? no. |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
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Post Number: 454 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 4:17 am: |      |
Did you think that the California counties were drawn to look like other states? (For example, I see a slightly pinched Tennessee, a backwards Maine, and a reasonably accurate Montana.) |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 199 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Did you think that the California counties were drawn to look like other states? (For example, I see a slightly pinched Tennessee, a backwards Maine, and a reasonably accurate Montana.) no, but thank you for rescuing my puzzle! |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2496 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:47 am: |      |
Did you think that the counties were something else, or that the lines had relevance to something other than counties? Are the state borders, and/or how they double as county borders, relevant? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 204 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 10:53 pm: |      |
Did you think that the counties were something else, or that the lines had relevance to something other than counties? the latter-ish. Are the state borders, and/or how they double as county borders, relevant? only the former. |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
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Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 8:56 pm: |      |
So did you read them as something completely different than county or state lines? Did you think they were roads/highways? Rivers/canals? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 227 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 9:19 pm: |      |
So did you read them as something completely different than county or state lines? no. I read them as county lines, but I thought they had a certain attribute that they don't actually have. Did you think they were roads/highways? Rivers/canals? no to both. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 1820 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:17 am: |      |
Did you think they followed something they didn't? A geographical feature? Political/territorial feature? Any wars relevant? Did you think they were determined in a different way than they were? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 229 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 7:55 pm: |      |
Did you think they followed something they didn't? define followed, but I think the answer is yes. A geographical feature? Political/territorial feature? yesish. Now figure out what this is, and what it had to do with these county boundaries. Any wars relevant? Did you think they were determined in a different way than they were? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1874 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 8:27 am: |      |
A specific historic event relevant? Do we need to go back to the time the state was first settled by Europeans? Or before? Is "mimicking" a better word than "following"? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 233 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 8:24 pm: |      |
A specific historic event relevant? Do we need to go back to the time the state was first settled by Europeans? Or before? Is "mimicking" a better word than "following"? no to all. However, I suggest you look at a map of the U.S. states. |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 2199 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 3:25 am: |      |
Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky and Virginia's southern borders roughly form a line that if continued westward would match up pretty well with these county borders. Does this have anything to do with it? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 242 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 2:13 pm: |      |
Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky and Virginia's southern borders roughly form a line that if continued westward would match up pretty well with these county borders. Does this have anything to do with it? YES! You are close to solving it. But look closely at a map of the US showing all the counties. |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 2227 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 12:29 am: |      |
Is it that they don't actually follow this line, that the county borders are farther south that the line that the state borders make? |
Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid
Post Number: 243 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 12:00 am: |      |
***************SPOILER******************** Is it that they don't actually follow this line, that the county borders are farther south that the line that the state borders make? Yes. I had the scrund that they were the same line, but they aren't. Good work, everyone. |