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A very common figure of speech rests on a very common scrund. What is it?
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As blind as a bat?
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As blind as a bat? no
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Is the scrund about a person? An animal? an object? a concept? an action? (or plural of any of the above)
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Like a red rag to a bull?
Like a bull in a china shop?
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Is the figure of speech a simile?
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Is the scrund about a person? no An animal? noan object? yope a concept? noish an action? no(or plural of any of the above)
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Like a red rag to a bull? no
Like a bull in a china shop? no
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Is the figure of speech a simile? It's not just one figure of speech; it's a word that is often used non-literally, often metaphorically.
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Is the word a noun? verb? adjective? adverb?
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Is the word a noun? yes verb? no adjective? yes adverb? no
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When used figuratively, in a way that would show the scrund, is it used as a noun? an adjective? either? Does the part of speech it is used in differentiate whether its meaning is literal or figurative?

When used as a noun, does it denote a material object? a living thing? a concept? Does the meaning as an adjective describe the meaning as a noun (for example, an orange is orange)?
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When used figuratively, in a way that would show the scrund, is it used as a noun? an adjective? either? Usually as an adjective but could be a noun Does the part of speech it is used in differentiate whether its meaning is literal or figurative? no

When used as a noun, does it denote a material object?yesish a living thing? no a concept?no Does the meaning as an adjective describe the meaning as a noun (for example, an orange is orange) yes when used literally, but the scrund is that few people realize that the adjective used figuratively does not describe what the noun denotes when used literally
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A yesish object: Does the noun describe a collection of objects? a material (such as metal, paper, etc.)? a liquid? a gas?
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Is a homophone involved? A word that may refer to an animal?
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A yesish object: Does the noun describe a collection of objects? noa material (such as metal, paper, etc.)? noa liquid? noa gas? no
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Is a homophone involved?no A word that may refer to an animal? no
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Is the noun material object larger than an atom? Cell? Pea? Golfball? Orange? Basketball? Beanbag chair? House? Skyscraper? City? Island? Continent? Moon? Planet? Star? Solar System? Galaxy? Universe?

Does the word change form at all going from adjective to noun or from noun to adjective? Does the noun form have a plural? Commonly used plural?

Is the figure of speech used primarily in English? American English? British English? Other dialects/varieties of English? Does it translate well into other languages? Would a speaker of another language hearing the figure of speech in their native language have the scrund? Would a speaker of another language but having learned English (and the figure of speech) have the scrund?
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Is the noun material object larger than an atom? Cell? Pea? Golfball? Orange? Basketball? Beanbag chair? House? Skyscraper? City? Island? Continent? Moon? Planet? Star? Solar System? Galaxy? Universe? It doesn't really have a size

Does the word change form at all going from adjective to noun or from noun to adjective? noDoes the noun form have a plural? yesCommonly used plural? noish

Is the figure of speech used primarily in English? American English? British English? Other dialects/varieties of English? I know it's used in American English & I bet it's used in the UK & Canada as well, but I'm not sure, although I've lived in those countries. I don't know about Australia, Nigeris, etc. but my GUESS is tht it occurs in most if not all varities of English.}Does it translate well into other languages? It should. The only other language I know (& in rudimentary form) is French Would a speaker of another language hearing the figure of speech in their native language have the scrund? Would a speaker of another language but having learned English (and the figure of speech) have the scrund?possibly
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HINT: Find out the general area of the noun in its literal sense: sports, crime, etc.
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Is the noun related to:

Sports? Weather? Transportation? Technology? Science? Medicine? Law? Politics? Performing arts? Other art?
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Is the noun related to:

Sports? Weather? Transportation? Technology? Science? Medicine? Law? Politics? Performing arts? Other art? none of these!!
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Is it related to: Aviation? Food? Sleep? Other human activity? Non-human activity? Nature? Space? Is it manmade?
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Is it related to: Aviation? no Food? yes Sleep? no Other human activity? no Non-human activity? no Nature? see previous answers Space? no Is it manmade? no
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Easy as pie?
Piece of cake?
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Easy as pie? no
Piece of cake? no. Remember, as I said above, it's not so much a phrase as a single word that is used figuratively in various phrases
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Is the scrund about the taste of the food? its visual appearance? its nutritional value? its calorie content? what it is made from?
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Is the scrund about the taste of the food? yesits visual appearance? no its nutritional value? noits calorie content? nowhat it is made from? no
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Hi Nimue.
Does the specific taste matter? sweet? sour? salty? bitter? savoury?
Or that the taste is similar to something?
Do we use this word to describe the taste, while in fact the word is also a noun which originally had nothing to do with the taste?
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Hi Nimue.
Does the specific taste matter? yessweet? sour? salty? bitter? savoury? I guess it's closest to sweet, but you have to be much more specific about the sub-category (or whatever)
Or that the taste is similar to something?
Do we use this word to describe the taste, while in fact the word is also a noun which originally had nothing to do with the taste? no
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Is the noun (the literal meaning of the word) some kind of food? Is it mostly carbohydrate? fat? protein? water? Is it animal product? plant product? other? drink?

Does it taste sugary? like chocolate? honey? cake?
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Is the noun (the literal meaning of the word) some kind of food? yes or maybe yesishIs it mostly carbohydrate? fat? protein? water? probably mostly carbohydrateIs it animal product? plant product? other? drink? plsnt & not a drink as such

Does it taste sugary? yopelike chocolate? nohoney? no cake?some cakes, nit all
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Made of flour? nuts? fruit? carrots? vanilla?
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is it vanilla? when used as an adjective it means plain - but true vanilla has a very strong taste. - is that it?
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I think it's supposed to be a word that means a food, but the word is also used as an adjective, and people think that the adjective comes from the food, while it is not the case. Is this right?
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Made of flour? no nuts? no fruit? no carrots? no vanilla? yes!!
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is it vanilla? yes{ when used as an adjective it means plain - but true vanilla has a very strong taste. - is that it? yes
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I think it's supposed to be a word that means a food, but the word is also used as an adjective, and people think that the adjective comes from the food, while it is not the case. Is this right? No. The adjective does come from a food, but from a scrund about the food

****** SPOILER ***********
'Vanilla' as an adjective means bland, & most people think of vanilla as a bland flavoring, almost the absence of flavor.But REAL vanilla has an intense, delicious flavor, which I actually prefer to chocolate! You can get this flavor through powdered vanilla, which I sprinkle on almost everything.It's expensive-about $11 a jar & I use about 2 jars a month. But that's the sort of extravagance a middle-class person can afford, & I'm ALL for self-indulgence, provided one gives to charity as well.Please indulge yourselves (& me!) by turning your lateral brains to my next puzzle.

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