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Ever since she was young, they did something unspeakable to her, dooming her to a terrible fate.

Might be a quickie
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She = 1st her = 2nd her = H? F? Now A? Same person?

They = H? A? M? Relevant how many?
Are they related to her? Her school mates? Doctors?

"Unspeakable" - Do you mean something too horrendous to speak of? Anything to do with being mute?
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She = 1st her = 2nd her = H? F? Now A? Same person? Yes to all

They = H? Yes A? Yes M? Yope Relevant how many? Yes..ish
Are they related to her? Yes Her school mates? No Doctors? No

"Unspeakable" - Do you mean something too horrendous to speak of? No Anything to do with being mute? No
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The terrible fate = death? Physical/psychological mutilation?

Did they do "the unspeakable" repeatedly? Was it physical? Psychological?

Is she alive now? Relevant?
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The terrible fate = death? No Physical/psychological mutilation? Physical no, psychological possibly

Did they do "the unspeakable" repeatedly? Yes Was it physical? Not really, although doing something physical might have played a part Psychological? More this

Is she alive now? Yes Relevant? Not really
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Was it unspeakable because it was hard to describe? Because it was forbidden to speak about it?
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Was it unspeakable because it was hard to describe? Because it was forbidden to speak about it? Thisish
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Is religion relevant? Law? Old wives' tales? Superstition?

Is what they did to her illegal? immoral? unusual?

Unspeakable for whom - Humans in general? A subset? If so, a clan? religious sect? political group? certain nationality?
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Is religion relevant? No Law? No Old wives' tales? No Superstition? No

Is what they did to her illegal? No immoral? No unusual? No

Unspeakable for whom - Humans in general? Noish A subset? More this If so, a clan? No religious sect? No political group? No certain nationality? No
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Her nationality relevant? Country? Time when this happened?
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Her nationality relevant? No Country? No Time when this happened? Yope
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They = her parents? Relatives?

Sex change relevant?
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They = her parents? Yes Relatives? Possibly

Sex change relevant? No
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Was she different from her peers in any relevant way?

It happened in the 20th century, right? Could it have happened earlier?

Is she famous?
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Was she different from her peers in any relevant way? Yope

It happened in the 20th century, right? 20th or 21st Could it have happened earlier? No to yope

Is she famous? No
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Is this something that is often done to some humans by others?
Something that can be done without harm?
But in her case, it meant harm?
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Is this something that is often done to some humans by others? Yes
Something that can be done without harm? Yes
But in her case, it meant harm? DOYD of harm
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Dooming her to a terrible fate -
Did each time they did it increase the probability of the terrible fate?
The "doing" implied...
Saying something?
Touching her?
Something to do with money?

Would "doing it" to anyone from childhood doom them to the same terrible fate?
Or was there something about her or her situation that doomed her in particular?

The fate - death?
Illness?
Physical handicap?
Psychological trauma?
Social problems?
Economical problems?
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Dooming her to a terrible fate -
Did each time they did it increase the probability of the terrible fate? Hard to answer...I would say yes, to an extent.
The "doing" implied...
Saying something? Likely
Touching her? Likely
Something to do with money? Likely

Would "doing it" to anyone from childhood doom them to the same terrible fate? Yes
Or was there something about her or her situation that doomed her in particular?

The fate - death?
Illness?
Physical handicap?
Psychological trauma? This is closest, but be careful
Social problems?
Economical problems?
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Terrible fate = problems in relationships with other people?

Was she free to leave her home? Did they hold her confined in a cellar or something along this path?
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Terrible fate = problems in relationships with other people? No

Was she free to leave her home? Yes Did they hold her confined in a cellar or something along this path? No
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Would it be considered abuse? Were others subjected to it?
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Would it be considered abuse? No Were others subjected to it? Many people were
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Just to clarify: I mean I'm sure many people have been subjected to it, but for the purposes of this puzzle it's irrel.
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Was it 'unspeakable' because we didn't have the terminology to describe it?

Was it something to do with her diet? Her education?

Did they know they were subjecting her to it?

If they knew, did they care?

Is this a comical puzzle? For instance, would an average reader, on seeing the answer, think that 'unspeakable' and 'terrible fate' were comic hyperbole?

Did they perhaps expose her to repeats of 'Deal or No Deal' with Noel Edmonds? Did they perhaps put salt in her food, condemning her to a life of sanctimonious lectures from nutritionists?
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Woodworm!!! Nice to see you again, it's been years!

Was it 'unspeakable' because we didn't have the terminology to describe it? No

Was it something to do with her diet? No Her education? Yopeish

Did they know they were subjecting her to it? Might have

If they knew, did they care? Irrel

Is this a comical puzzle? Yes! For instance, would an average reader, on seeing the answer, think that 'unspeakable' and 'terrible fate' were comic hyperbole? 'Terrible fate' definitely, 'unspeakable'...not so much, but...

Did they perhaps expose her to repeats of 'Deal or No Deal' with Noel Edmonds? Haha! No Did they perhaps put salt in her food, condemning her to a life of sanctimonious lectures from nutritionists? No
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Thank you! Nice to see some familiar people around these parts.

Did they force her to watch something? Or to read something? Or listen to something? Or, rather, did they deprive her of something?

Does this have something to do with popular culture? Music? Literature? The arts? Sports?
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Did they force her to watch something? Or to read something? Or listen to something? Or, rather, did they deprive her of something? No to all

Does this have something to do with popular culture? Music? Literature? The arts? Sports? No to all, with a small 'ish' for the arts
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Are beauty pageants relevant here? The somewhat more than disturbing life described in "Toddlers and Tiaras"?
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Are beauty pageants relevant here? No The somewhat more than disturbing life described in "Toddlers and Tiaras"? No
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So the terrible fate was in fact not so terrible?

Her = you? :-))

Did they affect her self-esteem?
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So the terrible fate was in fact not so terrible? Not that terrible, I suppose!

Her = you? :-)) No =)

Did they affect her self-esteem? Yes
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Did they repeatedly say something evaluating her? If so, did it relate to her body? manner of thinking? doing things?

Was the "terrible fate" positive for her? For them? Did it force her to do something she otherwise wouldn't?
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Did they repeatedly say something evaluating her? Probably If so, did it relate to her body? manner of thinking? doing things? Could be all of these things

Was the "terrible fate" positive for her? No For them? No Did it force her to do something she otherwise wouldn't? No
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Did it affect her for the rest of her life? Is her job relevant? Religious views? Political views? Did they teach her something? Keep something away from her?
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Did it affect her for the rest of her life? Yes Is her job relevant? No Religious views? No Political views? No Did they teach her something? No Keep something away from her? No
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Did they give her an unspeakable name?
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Is the fate unchangeable?
Is it torture only to the person experiencing it?
Can this happen to an adult? and if so would it have the same effect?
Did it disable her in any sort of way?
Was the fate only for when she was an adult?
Did they hinder her development in any way? (eg watching too much "educational" baby's television hindered her education?)
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Treecleaver:

Did they give her an unspeakable name? No

Entity:

Is the fate unchangeable? No
Is it torture only to the person experiencing it? Yes, I suppose, although as with all terrible fates, it hurts her loved ones too. (by the way, don't forget that this puzzle isn't really serious in nature)
Can this happen to an adult? By 'this', do you mean the terrible fate, or what led to it? The former can happen to anyone, the latter can happen to an adult I guess, but it's much more common in children. and if so would it have the same effect? Yes
Did it disable her in any sort of way? No
Was the fate only for when she was an adult? No
Did they hinder her development in any way? (eg watching too much "educational" baby's television hindered her education?) Noish
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Is her name relevant at all? Speech? Did they teach her something? Trick her? Give her a scrund? Did it affect her behaviour? In a negative way? Social behaviour relevant?
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Is her name relevant at all? No Speech? No Did they teach her something? Noish Trick her? No Give her a scrund? No Did it affect her behaviour? Yes In a negative way? Yes...ish Social behaviour relevant? Yesish
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Did they never speak to her about a certain thing? Did they withhold information from her?
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Did they never speak to her about a certain thing? No Did they withhold information from her? No
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Are there other people involved? Other siblings? Did they also get this "fate"? Is it genetic?
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Anything to do with the kinds of psychological phenomena you hear about in psych 101, like the gambler's fallacy, or the difficulty of learning a second language later in life, or social darwinism (apologies for the far-flung examples, but you get the idea)?

The subset of people for whom it's unspeakable - are they related by location? Genetic factors (like ethnicity or gender)? Age? Upbringing? The language they speak? Economic class? Political affiliation? Religious affiliation? Is there a name that encompasses the whole group (like "Quakers" or "women")?
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Balin:

Are there other people involved? Yope. Do you mean in the terrible fate, or what they did to her as a child? Other siblings? Very unlikely. Did they also get this "fate"? Is it genetic? No...ish

Ohlala8:

Anything to do with the kinds of psychological phenomena you hear about in psych 101, like the gambler's fallacy, or the difficulty of learning a second language later in life, or social darwinism (apologies for the far-flung examples, but you get the idea)? Psychological yes, but nothing deep or complex at all.

The subset of people for whom it's unspeakable - are they related by location? Yope. Explore! Genetic factors (like ethnicity or gender)? No Age? No Upbringing? No The language they speak? Yope to yesish Economic class? No Political affiliation? No Religious affiliation? No Is there a name that encompasses the whole group (like "Quakers" or "women")? Yes
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Did this happen on [LTPF list of continents]? In [LTPF list of centuries]?
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Did they ( parents and relatives )

make her into a brat ( avoiding the s-word here )?

by surrounding her with her own photographs ( the yes-ish Arts in Woodworm's March 14th question ) ?

so she has hard time not being admired by everyone outside home?
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Balin:

Did this happen on [LTPF list of continents]? No =) FA In [LTPF list of centuries]? late 20th to 21st

Emeraldlink:

Did they ( parents and relatives )

make her into a brat ( avoiding the s-word here )? YES!

by surrounding her with her own photographs ( the yes-ish Arts in Woodworm's March 14th question ) ? No

so she has hard time not being admired by everyone outside home? But this isn't her fate.

You've practically got it now!!
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Did they spoil her? By getting her everything she wanted?

The FA: did this happen on land? Sea? Air? Space?
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Did they spoil her? By getting her everything she wanted? YES but -gasp- did I just hear the S word?! =O

The FA: did this happen on land? Sea? Air? Space? Depends what 'this' refers to. If referring to what they did to her: on land. If referring to her terrible fate: none of the above.
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Ah, I suppose you did. I didn't even notice. And "spoil her" sounds just like...well... the "big" S word!

Anyway, is the terrible fate her brattiness? Or something resulting from it? Is "brattiness" even a word?
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Aaaah, Balin!! You already have the answer to this puzzle, you just don't know it!! Haha =P

Ah, I suppose you did. I didn't even notice. And "sp**l her" sounds just like...well... the "big" S word! Shh...

Anyway, is the terrible fate her brattiness? No Or something resulting from it? Noish to yope Is "brattiness" even a word? I suspect it might be!
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I do?

Let's see...her parents got her everything she wanted, thus making her into a really selfish brat. Is this correct? Is there more to be revealed? Or do the pieces just need to be put together?

Random question: Is it just me who has the answer, or could anyone reading this figure it out?
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Balin:

I do? Indeed!

Let's see...her parents got her everything she wanted, thus making her into a really selfish brat. Is this correct? Yes, but.. Is there more to be revealed? There's more to this, but you already have it. Or do the pieces just need to be put together? Yes

Hint: there is an important word in the puzzle statement

Random question: Is it just me who has the answer, or could anyone reading this figure it out? Anyone =)
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I knew it, I knew it, I just forgot to ask.

Is the word "unspeakable"?
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I knew it, I knew it, I just forgot to ask.

Is the word "unspeakable"? Yes!
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The parents do something unspeakable...do they not speak to her? Do they give her everything without debate or question?
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The parents do something unspeakable...do they not speak to her? No, they do speak to her. Do they give her everything without debate or question? Probably

You've got all you need to know about what they did to her. Why was it unspeakable, and for whom is it unspeakable?
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Was it unspeakable for the girl? Mother? Father? Third party?
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Was it unspeakable for the girl? Mother? Father? Third party? This. Although if the girl and her parents are included in the group I'm thinking of, then it would be unspeakable for them too, in a certain context.
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"Unspeakable": Horrific to speak about? Physically impossible to speak about? Embarrassing to speak about? Don't want to speak about it?
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"Unspeakable": Horrific to speak about? Physically impossible to speak about? Not physically impossible, no, but... Embarrassing to speak about? Don't want to speak about it? This is closest, I think
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Is it very hard to talk about (emotionally, I mean)?
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So, does the group all speak one language? If so, English? Is there literally not a word for her fate? Or it's unpronouncable?
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Balin:

Is it very hard to talk about (emotionally, I mean)? No

Ohlala8:

So, does the group all speak one language? Yes If so, English? Yes. Some may speak other languages too, but when they come together, English is the norm. Is there literally not a word for her fate? Or it's unpronouncable? It isn't her fate that's 'unspeakable', it's what her parents did to her that is.
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Is it the sperling (in Brooklynese) of the daughter that's "unspeakable", right?

By "unspeakable", is it physically difficult to speak about it? Did the daughter punch a third party in the mouth, giving him (or her) a mouth injury? Thus, the third party wouldn't really be able to speak about it?
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Is it the sperling (in Brooklynese) of the daughter that's "unspeakable", right? Yes!!

By "unspeakable", is it physically difficult to speak about it? No Did the daughter punch a third party in the mouth, giving him (or her) a mouth injury? haha, no Thus, the third party wouldn't really be able to speak about it? No

You are soooooo close!! =)
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Is it not possible, in any way, to speak about the sperling? And the reason for this is what we need to know?

Are any of those involved in the puzzle dead, by any chance? And thus they cannot speak about it?
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Is it not possible, in any way, to speak about the sperling? One cannot say it in a specific context. And the reason for this is what we need to know? Yup! But like I said, you already know it! =)

Are any of those involved in the puzzle dead, by any chance? I'm sure they aren't. And thus they cannot speak about it?
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GAH! This is killing me, knowing what it is but not being able to pinpoint it.

Is she now bratty in her adult life, thus harming her relationships with family and friends?
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GAH! This is killing me, knowing what it is but not being able to pinpoint it. Heehee

Is she now bratty in her adult life, thus harming her relationships with family and friends? No, irrel
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Bjks...sakjej....BAAAAAAAAAGHHH!

] run: end.freak.out.rant
] GO


Ok, now that that's over...

Is the third party another relative? Sibling? You? Friend? Relevant?
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Bjks...sakjej....BAAAAAAAAAGHHH!

] run: end.freak.out.rant
] GO

Lol I think I need to do the same, I seem to be stuck on your lateral adventure!
Ok, now that that's over...

Is the third party another relative? Sibling? You? Yes! Friend? And yes..friend of me, that is, not her Relevant? Very much so
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OK, so are there two third parties (you and your friend - that would make it a fourth party)? Or is one of you the girl in the puzzle? A parent?

And guessing you were involved was just a wild guess. Kind of like breaking a lock with a cue ball =D
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OK, so are there two third parties (you and your friend - that would make it a fourth party)? No, it's me and many other friends, as well as other people in the community, who I may or may not have come across. Or is one of you the girl in the puzzle? A parent? No to these

And guessing you were involved was just a wild guess. Kind of like breaking a lock with a cue ball =D I'll need to try that in real life! =P
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So you...wait, this involves a whole community? And none of you can speak about it? (Then how did you make a puzzle about it? Or does that not count as speaking?) Is it shameful to the community? Or have you all taken a vow of silence?
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So you...wait, this involves a whole community? Indeed And none of you can speak about it? <b>We can speak about it, but... (Then how did you make a puzzle about it? Or does that not count as speaking? We can get round it) Is it shameful to the community? No Or have you all taken a vow of silence? Lol, not exactly...
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Can you speak to the people involved? Girl? Parents? And would you get in trouble if you did? With the law? The community?
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Can you speak to the people involved? Girl? Parents? They don't exist in real life And would you get in trouble if you did? No With the law? The community? No..ish
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Hang on...WHAAAAAAAAT? The girl and parents are not real? Do they only exist in a story? An urban legend? And the community doesn't like when people talk about it?
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Hang on...WHAAAAAAAAT? The girl and parents are not real? Do they only exist in a story? An urban legend? They exist only in this puzzle And the community doesn't like when people talk about it? Well...there's a very specific reason why members of the community do not say it, though they can 'talk about it' in a different way. And I am absolutely sure that you, and everyone else, know the reason =)
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Can they "talk about it" through Internet posting? Text message? In code?

Reason: is it related to anyone's name? The moral of this tale?

] run: dont.freak.out
] GO

] Warning:program_error1
] *Program dont.freak.out not executed*

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
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Can they "talk about it" through Internet posting? Interesting question! Yope.Text message? They definitely can In code? If they want to

Reason: is it related to anyone's name? No The moral of this tale? There is no moral =)

] run: dont.freak.out
] GO

] Warning:program_error1
] *Program dont.freak.out not executed*

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! Hehe, I bet you'll freak out even more when you get the answer, and see that you've known it all along... =P
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Is there any reason that members of the community would talk about it at all? Do they want to talk about it?
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Is there any reason that members of the community would talk about it at all? Yes Do they want to talk about it? Yope
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Is this relevant:

reflection ( linguistic term )?

meta-reference?

keyword?
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Do they talk about it as a warning (i.e. don't do this or this will happen)?
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Emeraldlink:

Is this relevant:

reflection ( linguistic term )?

meta-reference?

keyword? This!

Balin:

Do they talk about it as a warning (i.e. don't do this or this will happen)? At times
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Is the community the LTP forum?
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Is the community the LTP forum? Yes!!!!! =) =) =)

So why is it unspeakable, and what is the girl's 'terrible fate'?
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Because we don't speak but rather write posts?
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Because we don't speak but rather write posts? Alas, no! It's only what her parents did to her that is 'unspeakable', or maybe I should say 'untypable'? lol
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Is it the fact that they SPOYLED her? And we can't type that word unless it's a spoyler?
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Is it the fact that they SPOYLED her? And we can't type that word unless it's a spoyler? YES!!!!!

********************SPOILER************************

Ever since our imaginary heroine was young, her parents spoiled her (I can say it now! =P). Since that is an integral part of her identity, she is doomed to never be the subject of conversation on the LTPF, as we have a quirky disability--we cannot actually type the word during the course of a puzzle. Unless, of course, someone chooses to make a puzzle out of how we can't have a puzzle about her...

Sorry for the cheeky puzzle, but I had a lot of fun, especially towards the end!
Thanks everyone for playing! =) And Balin, looks like it's my turn to freak out over your puzzle now!
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You got us!:-))

Thanks for the puzzle, Jumpingjack!
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Yeah, as soon as I got it I was kicking myself for not getting it when you said I knew it. Great puzzle!

Oh, and some credit must go to Alhucema for figuring out that it was the LTPF community. I wouldn't have gotten it without that, and I definitely was spared some major freak-out moments in the near future. =P

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