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I used to have a passive scrund about drug addiction, & I bet many of you did, too. What is it?
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Does the scrund concern how people become addicted? The effects of addiction? Which drugs are more/less addictive? The process of overcoming addiction?
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Does the scrund concern how people become addicted? yesishThe effects of addiction? noWhich drugs are more/less addictive? no The process of overcoming addiction? no
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Does the scrund have to do with how likely people are to become addicted? Did you think that everyone who uses addictive drugs becomes addicted to them? Did you think that all drugs were addictive?
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Does the scrund concern how people are first exposed to drugs? The "Just Say No" campaign?
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Is the method used to ingest the drugs relevant? Amount ingested? Type of drug? Physical addiction versus psychological dependence on something?

Did you have this scrund about drug addiction in general, or addiction to a specific substance?

Did the scrund relate to how long it takes to become addicted to something? The point at which someone can be described as an addict? How easy/difficult it is to become addicted?
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is DARE relevant?
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Does the scrund have to do with how likely people are to become addicted? no Did you think that everyone who uses addictive drugs becomes addicted to them? no Did you think that all drugs were addictive? no
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Does the scrund concern how people are first exposed to drugs? noish The "Just Say No" campaign? no
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Is the method used to ingest the drugs relevant? no Amount ingested? noType of drug? noPhysical addiction versus psychological dependence on something?no. What is "psychological dependence," anyway, but giving something higher priority than some "expert" thinks you should?

Did you have this scrund about drug addiction in general, or addiction to a specific substance?

Did the scrund relate to how long it takes to become addicted to something? no The point at which someone can be described as an addict? noHow easy/difficult it is to become addicted? no
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is DARE relevant? Probably not, since I don't even know what DARE is. Please enlighten me.
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Anything to do with the percentage of people addicted to drugs?

Even if this has nothing to do with the scrund, it is amazing how constant the percentage of people within a population who are addicted to drugs has been throughout history, despite very different drug policies and discovery of new addictive substances during that time.
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Are gateway drugs relevant? Socioeconomic qualities of those likely to be drug addicts?

Is the scrund more about the addiction itself? or the people who are addicted?

And DARE stands for "Drug Abuse Resistance Education"... Generally involves police officers coming into elementary (and I suppose middle and high) schools to teach the kids about how to avoid drugs, gangs, etc. It's been around for a while, but the jury's out on whether it's effective or not.
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Do many grownups have this scrund? Or is it a typical children's scrund? Can a drug addict have this scrund? How about a legal drug addict, such as a smoker?
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Is the method of introducing the drug into the body relevant? Drug tolerance relevant? Abstinence symptoms? A specific class of drugs relevant (such as stimulants, depressants, hallucinogens)?
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Anything to do with the percentage of people addicted to drugs?

Even if this has nothing to do with the scrund, it is amazing how constant the percentage of people within a population who are addicted to drugs has been throughout history, despite very different drug policies and discovery of new addictive substances during that time.
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Are gateway drugs relevant? noSocioeconomic qualities of those likely to be drug addicts? yes

Is the scrund more about the addiction itself? see next answeror the people who are addicted? yes

And DARE stands for "Drug Abuse Resistance Education"... Generally involves police officers coming into elementary (and I suppose middle and high) schools to teach the kids about how to avoid drugs, gangs, etc. It's been around f
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Do many grownups have this scrund? b{ age is irrel}Or is it a typical children's scrund? see previous answerCan a drug addict have this scrund? yesHow about a legal drug addict, such as a smoker? anyone can have this scrund. Do smokers really count as legal drug addicts nowadays? Why not just call them werewolves & be done with it?
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Is the method of introducing the drug into the body relevant? no Drug tolerance relevant? noAbstinence symptoms? no A specific class of drugs relevant (such as stimulants, depressants, hallucinogens)? no
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Is it about how people become addicted? Or why? Or is it more about established addictions? Quitting relevant? "I can quit any time I want" is certainly a scrund many addicts have, at least until they actually try, is this relevant? Drug tolerance relevant? If an addict has the scrund, does he have the scrund about himself? Or only about other addicts? Or is the scrund about additcs as a group, not specific individuals? Negative health effects relevant?
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Is it about how people become addicted? yesish Or why? ditto Or is it more about established addictions? no Quitting relevant? no "I can quit any time I want" is certainly a scrund many addicts have, at least until they actually try, is this relevant? no Drug tolerance relevant? no If an addict has the scrund, does he have the scrund about himself? no Or only about other addicts? yesOr is the scrund about additcs as a group, not specific individuals? no Negative health effects relevant? no
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Is it about a certain race/class of people being drug addicts?
Would it be offensive to the addict if your scrund were mentioned to him?
Is the scrund a stereotyping?
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Is it about a certain race/class of people being drug addicts?no
Would it be offensive to the addict if your scrund were mentioned to him? no
Is the scrund a stereotyping? Yope
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Is it supposed to be funny [Like your Bible leopard scrund] when mentioned to a drug addict?
If you made the definitions up, is a 'passive' scrund different from an 'active' scrund? Is it relevant at all?
Is it about how people are introduced to drugs? how they get addicted to the drugs?
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Is it supposed to be funny [Like your Bible leopard scrund] when mentioned to a drug addict? no
If you made the definitions up You bet I did!, is a 'passive' scrund different from an 'active' scrund? An active scrund is a scrund you've actually thought about (like the leopard scrund you mentioned) A passive scrund is something you've taken for granted & don't even realize you've been taking for granted until you get a surprise. For example, most people have never thought about what is the most common name for baby boys in Israel (I mean the state of Israel itself, not the occupied territories), but are surprised to learn that it is MohammedIs it relevant at all?It's relevant that the scrund in the present puzzle is a passive scrund.
Is it about how people are introduced to drugs? yeshow they get addicted to the drugs? yope
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Does the scrund involve peer pressure?
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Does the scrund involve peer pressure? no
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Drug dealers relevant? The way in which drugs are acquired?
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Drug dealers relevant?yes The way in which drugs are acquired? yes
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"The first one's free" relevant? That drug dealers give away drugs, or sell them cheaper, to get people hooked?
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"The first one's free" relevant? no That drug dealers give away drugs, or sell them cheaper, to get people hooked? irrel
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Is the scrund about how people usually get introduced to addictive drugs? About who introduces them? Peer pressure relevant?
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Is the scrund about how people usually get introduced to addictive drugs? yopeAbout who introduces them? ditto Peer pressure relevant? no
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Is it about how a person get their first hit? Or why? Where? Under what circumstances? At which age? Is the act of taking the drug relevant? Or that of acquiring it? Is it about what sort of person is more likely to try out addictive drugs?
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Is it about how a person get their first hit? yes Or why? yes Where? noish Under what circumstances? yesAt which age? noIs the act of taking the drug relevant? yes Or that of acquiring it? yesishIs it about what sort of person is more likely to try out addictive drugs? yes
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Is any of the following relevant to the scrund: income? Social background? Childhood? Parents? Friends? Attitude towards drugs? Mental issues? Health? Relationships? Is being tricked into taking drugs relevant? Or being ignorant about their addictive effects?
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Is any of the following relevant to the scrund: income? no Social background? yes Childhood? possiblyParents? inlikelyFriends? probably Attitude towards drugs? ye yopesMental issues? What oies this mean?Health? Relationships? yesIs being tricked into taking drugs relevant? no Or being ignorant about their addictive effects? no
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By mental issues I mean mental disorders (like depression, schizophrenia, paranoia etc).
Intelligence relevant? Is it probable many of us still have the scrund? Or is it often corrected when growing up? Or has something happened recently to correct it? Are non-addictive drugs also relevant? there are so many yes-answers, would it help to focus on one aspect of the scrund? Such as why (according to the scrund) people try out an addictive drug?
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By mental issues I mean mental disorders (like depression, schizophrenia, paranoia etc). These are irrel
Intelligence relevant? no Is it probable many of us still have the scrund? I think so; lots of ,my friends did--until I enlightened them, of course Or is it often corrected when growing up? no. Adults are quite likely to have it, I betOr has something happened recently to correct it? I read something that made me realize it was false--this was at least 10 years ago Are non-addictive drugs also relevant? nothere are so many yes-answers, would it help to focus on one aspect of the scrund? yes Such as why (according to the scrund) people try out an addictive drug? yesish
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is the scrund that in fact people are most likely to acquire drugs from people they know well or have good relationships with? rather than from unknown drug pushers? that often a drug supplier will be one of a group of friends? not an outsider?
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is the scrund that in fact people are most likely to acquire drugs from people they know well or have good relationships with? norather than from unknown drug pushers?nothat often a drug supplier will be one of a group of friends? nonot an outsider? no
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HINT: What group of [people seem particularly UNLIKELY to become drug addicts? No racial or ethnic stereotypes are relevant here.
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Suburbanites? Upper class? Clergy? Teachers?
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Suburbanites? Upper class? Clergy? Teachers? all irrel
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Cops? Is the group defined by their profession? Or is it old people? Is it age related?
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Cops? noIs the group defined by their profession? yope or yesish Or is it old people no Is it age related?Not inherently, but most people in this group are probably pretty young (including teenagers)
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Schoolkids? University students?
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Schoolkids? no University students? no
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Is the group invovled with a certain organization? Such as the boy scouts? Or a certain kind of organizations? Are they considered to be especially upstanding citizens? Are they invovled in the fight against drugs? Could those in this group that do get hooked on drugs be considered hypocrites?
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Is the group invovled with a certain organization? noish or yope Such as the boy scouts? not the boy scount Or a certain kind of organizations? noish or yopeAre they considered to be especially upstanding citizens? no Are they invovled in the fight against drugs? noCould those in this group that do get hooked on drugs be considered hypocrites? no
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HINT: The group in question is not an obvious demographic category like white, middle-class people, farmers, etc.
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Could the category be described as people who are in the process of doing something? who have done something? who have NOT done something? who are in a certain role? who share a feature of their physical appearance?
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Could the category be described as people who are in the process of doing something? possibly--see next answer-people in this category have done something & may still be doing itwho have done something? yes who have NOT done something? no who are in a certain role? yes who share a feature of their physical appearance? no
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Is they thing they do/did related to drugs at all? To addiction? Does it put them in close contact with addicts? Is that they do/did particularly: healthy? Unhealthy? Demanding? Dangerous? Honorable? Do they do it: by themselves? In a group? Do they do it for others? Against others? Is what they do/did: a job? Hobby? Punishment? Charity? Sport? Leisure activity? Duty?
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Is they thing they do/did related to drugs at all? yesTo addiction? yesDoes it put them in close contact with addicts? yes Is that they do/did particularly: healthy? no Unhealthy? yope Demanding? possibly Dangerous? yesHonorable? most people would say noDo they do it: by themselves? noishIn a group? noishDo they do it for others? yes Against others? noIs what they do/did: a job? Hobby? Punishment? Charity? Sport? Leisure activity? Duty? a job
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Are they drug counselors? Doctors? Work in some kind of rehab facility?
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Are they drug counselors? Doctors? Work in some kind of rehab facility? no to all!
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Religion relevant? Disabilities? People who campaign against drugs? Is alchohol a relevant drug? Steroids?
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Religion relevant? no Disabilities? no or maybe noish People who campaign against drugs? noIs alchohol a relevant drug? possibly or noishSteroids? no
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Is it a job many young people do? Do they come in contact with addicts that are: Taking drugs? High on drugs? Recovering from a drug trip? Trying to quit? Homeless? Stealing/begging? Sick? Experiencing other problems related to addiction?
Do they help the addicts? Do they handle drugs themselves? Does their work primarely show them the downsides of being a drug addict?
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Is it a job many young people do?no Do they come in contact with addicts that are: Taking drugs? yes High on drugs? yes Recovering from a drug trip? yes Trying to quit? no Homeless? probably Stealing/begging? possiblySick? yesExperiencing other problems related to addiction? probably
Do they help the addicts? That's a matter of opinion!Do they handle drugs themselves? yesDoes their work primarely show them the downsides of being a drug addict? yope or noish
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Anything to do with Marijuana being a "gateway drug"? AA/NA involved? Ex-addicts involved? Needle exchange clinics? Is this group of people doing the same job likely to be in inner cities? Rural areas? Older people? People who take drugs? Used to take drugs? Do they share the same "profession"? Or are they just doing the same "job" for the moment?
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I feel like this has already been asked, but I can't find it. So forgive me if it has been...

Are they dealers??
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Anything to do with Marijuana being a "gateway drug"? no AA/NA involved? no Ex-addicts involved? no Needle exchange clinics? no Is this group of people doing the same job likely to be in inner cities? yes Rural areas? less likely, I bet Older people? Older than whom? If you mean old people, perhaps some old people do this job, but I think it's usually done by rather young people, maybe even teenagersPeople who take drugs?no Used to take drugs?no Do they share the same "profession"? see next answer Or are they just doing the same "job" for the moment? yes
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I feel like this has already been asked, but I can't find it. So forgive me if it has been...

Are they dealers?? noish
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Something to do with homeless people beging for money for food, but spending it on drugs/alchohol?
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Something to do with homeless people beging for money for food, but spending it on drugs/alchohol? no
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Is this job an "actual" job, i.e. one a person could apply for and formally receive a salary as compensation for, or more of a lifestyle (as with the homeless people example)?
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Is this job an "actual" job, i.e. one a person could apply for and formally receive a salary as compensation for, or more of a lifestyle (as with the homeless people example)? probably midway between ther two. It does involve payment for services
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HINT: The "job" involves breaking the law.
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If not a dealer, then is it a drug smuggler? A drug manufacturer?
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If not a dealer, then is it a drug smuggler? A drug manufacturer? no--dealer is much more ORT (on the right track
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Long shot...is it about prostitution? Pimping? Sale of illegal goods other than drugs? Selling illegal services? Making illegal goods? Gambling illegally (as opposed to going to the casino)? Running illegal gambling? While I don't think it's illegal...dancing or stripping?

Is the illegal job something that some people would argue should be legal? Something that people disapprove of? People think they are unsung heroes?
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Long shot...is it about prostitution? no Pimping? no Sale of illegal goods other than drugs? no Selling illegal services? no Making illegal goods? noGambling illegally (as opposed to going to the casino)? no Running illegal gambling? no While I don't think it's illegal...dancing or stripping? no

I've decided that the guess that the people in question are drug dealers is close enough for me to declare a

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The people are actually employees of drug dealers & they make deliveries for drug dealers. The writer of the book I read about this said that you'd expect these people to avoid drugs after seeing all the misery addiction causes. But instead, a lot of them actually try drugs, because they figure that anything that makes people to endure such suffering must be pretty wonderful. I can't promise that my next puzzle is pretty wonderful, but I can promise that it's waiting for you at the bottom of this page.


Is the illegal job something that some people would argue should be legal?yes Something that people disapprove of? yes People think they are unsung heroes? no
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I certainly didn't have this scrund. I was under the impression that most people who get into any aspect of the drug trade do so because they were already into drugs for their own use. The only exceptions would be those who live in areas so economically disadvantaged that there is no other way to make money.

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