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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They used untold riches to create great destruction.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Real story? Did it happen in /LTPF list of centuries/?

riches = mineral riches?

Destruction = of lives? tangible assets?

They = H?A?M? How many? 2? 10? 100? 1000? More?
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Real story? Yes. Did it happen in /LTPF list of centuries/? 20th.

riches = mineral riches? Noish.

Destruction = of lives? tangible assets? Both.

They = H?A?M? H, A, mostly M How many? 2? 10? 100? 1000? More? More.
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War relevant? A specific country relevant? Can "they" be defined as a nation? Did they use the riches to finance war?
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War relevant? A specific country relevant? Yes to both. Can "they" be defined as a nation? Yope. I'm thinking of something more specific. Did they use the riches to finance war? No, good question.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***BLOOPER***
riches = mineral riches? Yesish, DYOD.
Clarification: "they" are working for a nation. The puzzle statement would be equally valid in "they" meant the nation itself.
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Is the country in /LTPF list of continents/?

The war - WW1? WW2?

The riches: precious stones? if so, diamonds? crude oil?
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Is the country in /LTPF list of continents/? North America.

The war - WW1? WW2? This one.

The riches: precious stones? if so, diamonds? crude oil? None of the above.
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Relevant which part of North America?

Untold = extremely large?

They = Americans? Scientists?

Do the riches include one element (such as eg gold - actually, do they include gold?) or are composed of various elements?

Are they: tangible? alive? metal? water?

Are they located underground? Is it necessary to extract them? Collect them? Harvest them?
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Relevant which part of North America? Yes.

Untold = extremely large? Yes.

They = Americans? Scientists? Yes to both.

Do the riches include one element (such as eg gold - actually, do they include gold?) or are composed of various elements? One element, but not gold.

Are they: tangible? alive? metal? water? By "they", you mean the riches? They're metal.

Are they located underground? Is it necessary to extract them? Collect them? Sort of. Harvest them? No to the rest.
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Does the metal serve to produce something relevant? Is it precious? Radioactive? Does it appear only in a certain place?

The part of NA - USA? If so, Alaska? Canada?
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Does the metal serve to produce something relevant? Yes. Is it precious? Yes. Radioactive? The metal is not, but... Does it appear only in a certain place? Define "appear". The metal is used in one place.

The part of NA - USA? If so, Alaska? Canada? Mainland USA.
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Platinum? Is it made radioactive?
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Platinum? Is it made radioactive? No to both.
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Was the destruction caused by nuclear weapons?
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Was the destruction caused by nuclear weapons? Yes indeed.
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Was the metal Gold?

Was it used in the Manhattan Project?

Was it used because of its resistance to corrosion?
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Was the metal Gold? No.

Was it used in the Manhattan Project? Yes.

Was it used because of its resistance to corrosion? Not primarily.
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Platinum?

Was it used as a part of the bomb?

Or in the processes used to create the bomb?

Or for something else?

Did it remain the same element?
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Platinum? No.

Was it used as a part of the bomb? No.

Or in the processes used to create the bomb? Yes!.

Or for something else? See above.

Did it remain the same element? Yes.
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Was the metal silver?

Were large quantities of the metal necessary?
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Was the metal silver? Yes!

Were large quantities of the metal necessary? Yes indeed.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Was silver used in relation to the radioactive material? To extract it? Purify it? Isolate it? Buy it?
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Was silver used in relation to the radioactive material? Yes. To extract it? Purify it? This. Isolate it? Buy it?
BLOOPER: Were large quantities of the metal necessary? Yes, for svv of "neccessary".
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Hint: find out more about which property of silver is relevant. Another metal is also relevant.
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Anything having to do with silver being great for wiring due to its conductive properties? (I know that only the most important computers and electronics use silver and gold wires when that extra tiny fraction of a second of time is needed for faster computation.)
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Anything having to do with silver being great for wiring due to its conductive properties? Correct! (I know that only the most important computers and electronics use silver and gold wires when that extra tiny fraction of a second of time is needed for faster computation.) But it was not used in computers.
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Hint: Copper would have worked just as well, but wasn't used. Explore.
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Does it involve the fact that silver (and copper) are transitional metals?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Does it involve the fact that silver (and copper) are transitional metals? Only their excellent electrical conductivity is relevant.
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Summary+hint: During WWII, large amounts of silver was used in the electrical conductors of a device for purifying a radioactive material.
Copper would have worked just as well, but was not used.
Hint: the reason for using silver over copper is not a scientific reason. Find out why silver was used, and I'll post the spoiler.
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Was copper needed for something else in the war? Was silver more readily available?
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Was copper needed for something else in the war? Yes! Was silver more readily available? Yes indeed!
***SPOILER***
Y-12 is the World War 2 code name for the part of the Manhattan Project to enrich uranium using electromagnetic isotope separation. The construction of its facilities began in February 1943.
Because of a wartime shortage of copper, the massive electromagnetic coils were made with 14,700 tons of coinage silver from U.S. government vaults at West Point. Colonel James C. Marshall met with the Under Secretary of the Treasury, Daniel Bell, and requested between five and ten thousand tons of silver. Bell’s stunned reply was “Colonel, in the Treasury we do not speak of tons of silver; our unit is the Troy ounce.”
Thus the Manhattan Engineer District requested and was loaned 395 million Troy ounces of silver from the West Point Depository for the duration of the Manhattan Project.

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