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Peter365 (Peter365)
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I bought a gift and was horrified when I looked at the receipt

Quickie no doubt
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Was it the gift itself that was the problem? The cost? The date/time on the receipt?

Store relevant? Actual gift relevant? Cashier's name relevant?
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Was it the gift itself that was the problem? yes The cost? No The date/time on the receipt? No

Store relevant? yes Actual gift relevant? yes Cashier's name relevant? No
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Did the receipt indicate that you were mistaken in your purchase? Perhaps that you had mistaken it for something else ("I wanted one for a girl, but the receipt says it's for a boy, and now that I look more closely, I see it's right!")?
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Did you want to buy a piece of clothing :-))?
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Did the receipt indicate that you were mistaken in your purchase? No Perhaps that you had mistaken it for something else ("I wanted one for a girl, but the receipt says it's for a boy, and now that I look more closely, I see it's right!")? Nothing like this I'm afraid
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Did you want to buy a piece of clothing :-))? Ha Ha . Let me tell you that the vast majority of Irish men never and I mean never buy clothing as a gift. It's part of our psyche. I've known my first wife (sorry Nimue) for nigh on 20 years and I've never bought her an item of clothing. So to sum up NO

and btw the gift was not for my current wife (sorry Nimue again)
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Did you find out the gift was a fake? A reproduction?
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Did you find out the gift was a fake? A reproduction? No to both
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Agreed on the clothing issue, unless it's a humorous t-shirt I can order online. Then, if it doesn't fit the person, I can blame the company.

Was there actually something wrong with the gift? If not, did you momentarily think there was? Or was it just the name/abbreviated name of the item that horrified you?

Relevant that it is a gift and not just a regular purchase? Would the recipient of the gift see the receipt?
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When asking about the clothing, I was thinking of an old joke about a guy buying gloves for his fiancée... anyway, excuse me for the digression, but I am overwhelmed with curiosity - WHY are Irish men so reluctant to buy clothes? Some sort of superstition?

Was the gift for a man? A woman? Relevant? Is your relationship to the person relevant? If you bought the same gift to a different person, would you feel the same about it?

Did you buy exactly what you wanted to?
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Agreed on the clothing issue, unless it's a humorous t-shirt I can order online. Then, if it doesn't fit the person, I can blame the company.

Was there actually something wrong with the gift? Yope If not, did you momentarily think there was? Hard to answer , something struck me when I looked at the receipt Or was it just the name/abbreviated name of the item that horrified you? Good question: the name of the item was what horrified me

Relevant that it is a gift and not just a regular purchase? Would the recipient of the gift see the receipt?
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When asking about the clothing, I was thinking of an old joke about a guy buying gloves for his fiancée... anyway, excuse me for the digression, but I am overwhelmed with curiosity - WHY are Irish men so reluctant to buy clothes? Some sort of superstition? no it's just that we're no good at it. Would not just be Irish men i suspect

Was the gift for a man? This A woman? Relevant? somewhat Is your relationship to the person relevant? Not especially If you bought the same gift to a different person, would you feel the same about it? No it had to be this man specifically

Did you buy exactly what you wanted to? yes but i failed to realise something
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Well, now I want to hear the glove joke...

Would this particular person be unable to use this particular gift? Is it an issue of right vs. left-handedness? Some other physical barrier?

Is the gift inherently gender specific? And perhaps you bought the "girl" one? Or is it just something usually purchased for a man?
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Well, now I want to hear the glove joke... Me too

Would this particular person be unable to use this particular gift? No Is it an issue of right vs. left-handedness? No Some other physical barrier? No

Is the gift inherently gender specific? No And perhaps you bought the "girl" one? No Or is it just something usually purchased for a man? it's not gender specific
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OK, the glove joke first (hope none of you is minor of age)...

http://homepages.tesco.net/~scotsnet/o.f.carter/fun/fun026.htm

Is what you saw on the receipt related to the name of the man you gave the gift to? His physical features? His profession?
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Was it the brand name of the item that horrified you? The actual item name? Was it abbreviated on the receipt?

Is this a true story? FYOI? Related to the glove joke in any way? Side note: great joke, Alhucema!
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OK, the glove joke first (hope none of you is minor of age)... Hee Hee

http://homepages.tesco.net/~scotsnet/o.f.carter/fun/fun026.htm

Is what you saw on the receipt related to the name of the man you gave the gift to? No His physical features? No His profession No
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Was it the brand name of the item that horrified you? No The actual item name? Yes Was it abbreviated on the receipt? No

Is this a true story? Yes FYOI? Related to the glove joke in any way? No and there are no relevant garments in this joke Side note: great joke, Alhucema! Very funny indeed
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Was the gift very expensive?

Was it a device? a book? food?
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Was the gift very expensive? No

Was it a device? a book? This food?
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Is the book fiction? If so, would it help if we find out its exact title?
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Is the book fiction? No If so, would it help if we find out its exact title? Well the exact title is relevant
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Is man's
nationality
religion
education
relevant?
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Is man's
nationality
religion
education
relevant? None of these i'm afraid
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Is his family relations relevant?
Like the title of the book contains the name of his ex-wife or something?
Are his past experiences relevant?
Fears?
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Is the book rather a technical one, then? A manual?
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Is his family relations relevant? No
Like the title of the book contains the name of his ex-wife or something? Nice idea but no
Are his past experiences relevant? Yes but be careful
Fears? And this too perhaps
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Is the book rather a technical one, then? A manual? neither of these
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The book:
Historical?
Religious?
Travel?
Humor?
Puzzle book?
Is it a relatively famous book (in other words, do you think a good portion of us might recognize the title?)

The man:
Age relevant?

Would you have gotten the same "horror" out of simply re-examining the title of the book directly?
Or is the fact that you read it off the receipt relevant?
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The book:
Historical?
Religious?
Travel?
Humor?
Puzzle book? None of these
Is it a relatively famous book (in other words, do you think a good portion of us might recognize the title?) Ooh I don't know. it's possible but couldn't say for sure. It's not a very famous book i guess

The man:
Age relevant? Yesish

Would you have gotten the same "horror" out of simply re-examining the title of the book directly? No
Or is the fact that you read it off the receipt relevant? Yes
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Is this person a child? Teenager? Adult? Elderly man?

Is the book a children's book?
Is it informational?
Hobby-related?
For entertainment?

Does the title appear differently on the receipt?
Or does it give additional information?
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Is the title on the receipt abbreviated?
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Is this person a child? Teenager? Adult? ThisElderly man?

Is the book a children's book?
Is it informational? Yes
Hobby-related? Yes but DYOD of hobby
For entertainment? Yes

Does the title appear differently on the receipt? No
Or does it give additional information? No
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Is the title on the receipt abbreviated? No

Apologies for the above bit of dyslexia that should of course read DOYD
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Is this puzzle anyhow related to mushrooms? ;-))

Is the book related to : construction/technology? sport?
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Is this puzzle anyhow related to mushrooms? ;-))alas no

Is the book related to : construction/technology? sport? No to these

Hint: Try to find out why I was buying the gift
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For birthday?
Graduation?
Wedding?
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For birthday?
Graduation?
Wedding? None of these
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Is it a gift marking an occasion?
Is it a souvenir?
Is it an apology?
Is it a sympathy gift?
Is it simply an act of friendship?
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For birthday?
Graduation?
Wedding? None of these
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you repeated the post above...
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Is it a gift marking an occasion? No
Is it a souvenir? No
Is it an apology? No
Is it a sympathy gift? Not sure I'd define as this but closer than the rest
Is it simply an act of friendship? Well yes but there's more to it than that
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Were you trying to help him?
Increase his knowledge or skill in a particular subject?
Help him through a particular situation (e.g. debt-managing book)?

So, if I understand right, the title on the receipt read the same as the title on the book?
But you could have only read the receipt to get this "horror"?
And you were only reading the title on the receipt, nothing else, to give you this shock?
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Was there another item listed on the receipt before? or after? the book, so that they appeared to be connected?
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Were you trying to help him? Not help but there was a specific reason i bought him the particular book and some others as well
Increase his knowledge or skill in a particular subject? \
Help him through a particular situation (e.g. debt-managing book)? None of these

So, if I understand right, the title on the receipt read the same as the title on the book? Yes
But you could have only read the receipt to get this "horror"? No I never said that. It was only upon reading the receipt I noticed the full title of the book. Had I looked more closely at the book I would have realised and not bought it

And you were only reading the title on the receipt, nothing else, to give you this shock? Yes I got a shock when I read the receipt but as I've said that's only because I wasn't paying attention when I bought the book
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Hint : Think about the timeline of these events. There's a key fact that you've yet to establish
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Was there another item listed on the receipt before? or after? the book, so that they appeared to be connected? Sorry nearly missed these. There were 2 other items listed on the receipt . I'd bought him 3 books but only one gave me a shock. They other two are loosely connected to the offending book as they deal with similar tastes but the actual order they appear on the receipt is not relevant
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When you were looking at the book, did you only see a part of the title? But then you saw the full title on the receipt and realized your mistake?
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When you were looking at the book, did you only see a part of the title? But then you saw the full title on the receipt and realized your mistake? In truth I didn't pay much attention to the title when buying the book. It was only when i saw it on the receipt i realised my mistake
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Were you horrified because you hae already given him the book? Or it was on its way to him and you couldn't stop it? Was the book itself inappropriate? Or only the title?
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Were you horrified because you hae already given him the book? At last someone asks this question . No but.... Or it was on its way to him and you couldn't stop it? YES!! it was in post when i read the receipt Was the book itself inappropriate? Not at all Or only the title? Only the title
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Is the title: inappropriate, period? Or inappropriate for him? For his situation? For the kind of message you want to convey with your gift? Has something bad happened to him? And you're trying to cheer him up? And the title somehow references the bad thing?
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Is the title: inappropriate, period? No Or inappropriate for him? For his situation? Yes For the kind of message you want to convey with your gift? Yes Has something bad happened to him? Yes, this is key And you're trying to cheer him up? Yes And the title somehow references the bad thing? Yes

Top notch q's Galfisk
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Was the title of the book just the description of its contents (like, say, "Accounting for Beginners")? Or was it more figurative?

As to what had happened to him: was it a loss? if so, of a person? of money? of health?

Did you buy the book because you wanted to cheer him up?
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Was it a humor book?
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Was the title of the book just the description of its contents (like, say, "Accounting for Beginners")? Yes a description of it's contents Or was it more figurative?

As to what had happened to him: was it a loss? if so, of a person? of money? of health? Health is very relevant here

Did you buy the book because you wanted to cheer him up? Yes it was a get well present
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Was it a humor book? No it catered to a particular interest
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Was he recovering from: sickenss? Injury? Surgery? Is he in the hospital? Is he himself to blame for his condition? Or did someone else do something bad to him? Intentionally? Has he been in an accident of some sort? Does he feel guilt for something relevant?
Is the subject covered by the books relevant? Or could books about a range of subjects have had the same kind of unfortunate title?
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Was he recovering from: sickenss? Injury? Surgery? This , he had triple bypass surgeryIs he in the hospital? No Is he himself to blame for his condition? Blame would be harsh but he does like a bacon sandwich and a pint . How he got his condition is irrelevant Or did someone else do something bad to him? Intentionally? Has he been in an accident of some sort? Does he feel guilt for something relevant? No
Is the subject covered by the books relevant? No Or could books about a range of subjects have had the same kind of unfortunate title? yes they could
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Was the word "bypass" or "heart" included in the title of the book?
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Was the word "bypass" or "heart" included in the title of the book? No
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Was he likely to interpret the book title:

- as alluding to his condition
- as alluding to his guilt about it?
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Was he likely to interpret the book title:

- as alluding to his condition yesish
- as alluding to his guilt about it? No and he wasn't guilty about it
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His condition: before surgery? Just after the surgery? Changes to his life? To what he can do? Does it allude to the surgery itself? To the heart?
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His condition: before surgery? No Just after the surgery? Yesish Changes to his life? Yesish To what he can do? No Does it allude to the surgery itself? To the heart? neither
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were the words "operation" or "recovery" relevant?
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were the words "operation" or "recovery" relevant? Not these either. It might be time to concentrate on the particular interest that my friend has that was the book's theme
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Is it about a particular sport? a hobby? just a general topic such as history?
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Is it about a particular sport? No a hobby? Yope i'm never sure whether to categorize this as a hobby , lets just say it's an interest just a general topic such as history? Well it's about a specific topic
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So the content of the book has nothing to do with health, correct? It's about an entertainment/hobby-related subject? But the title somehow alludes to something that would be inappropriate for your friend? Would it be inappropriate for anyone who was ill? Anyone who'd had surgery? Anyone who'd had heart troubles? Do we need to know anything about your friend apart from his condition and his interest in the book's subject?

Is the problem with the title an intentional pun? An unintentional pun? Could it be perceived as a joke at your friend's expense? Would the problem be solved if one word were different? One phrase? Or is the content of the title completely inappropriate?
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So the content of the book has nothing to do with health, correct? No It's about an entertainment/hobby-related subject? yes entertainment being a key word But the title somehow alludes to something that would be inappropriate for your friend? Yes Would it be inappropriate for anyone who was ill? seriously ill yes Anyone who'd had surgery? Only for major or serious surgeries Anyone who'd had heart troubles? Yes but not exlusively the heart e.g. I wouldn't send this book to someone suffering from Cancer Do we need to know anything about your friend apart from his condition and his interest in the book's subject? No other than thankfully he has a good sense of humour

Is the problem with the title an intentional pun? An unintentional pun? It's not really a pun . I believe there are many books and tv programmes with a similarly worded title Could it be perceived as a joke at your friend's expense? yes it could Would the problem be solved if one word were different? {rather if they took away a phrase in the title} One phrase? Yes Or is the content of the title completely inappropriate? No
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Could it be interpreted as an allusion that he might die?
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Could it be interpreted as an allusion that he might die? By George she's got it. Well done Alhucema . You're well on the way now
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A wild wild guess: Was the book "Death in the Afternoon", by Ernest Hemingway? Or another book with the word "death" "dying" etc. in its title?
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Or "Die Another Day"?
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A wild wild guess: Was the book "Death in the Afternoon", by Ernest Hemingway? Or another book with the word "death" "dying" etc. in its title?

Or "Die Another Day"? No to those inspired guesses but the word die is in the title. The book is non-fiction
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Is the book about food? Cooking? Sports? Computers? Movies? Something done outside? Inside?

Wild guess: if it's food or cooking, could it be something like "Pies to Die For" or something similar?
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Is the book about food? Cooking? Sports? Computers? Movies? This. Nicely done Something done outside? Inside?

Wild guess: if it's food or cooking, could it be something like "Pies to Die For" or something similar? Nice try and very much on the right track
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"100 Movies to See Before you Die"? Or something along this line?
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"100 Movies to See Before you Die"? Or something along this line?
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"100 Movies to See Before you Die"? Or something along this line?

100 Movies to See Before you Die"? Or something along this line? So good she posted it twice....


***************Spoiler****************

Well done Alhucema. Here's the story in full.

My mate Ron who's only 52 had been feeling particularly unwell for a little while and got himself checked out at a clinic. Imagine his shock when he was told that he needed urgent heart bypass surgery . Apparently some of the arteries were so blocked that Doctor's were surprised he hadn't dropped dead.

Anyway Ron had the operation which thankfully was a total success. As he faced the long recovery period I thought that a gift would cheer him up so I went to my local bookshop and selected a few titles which I thought my suit his tastes.

Now Ron loves movies and movie history so I discovered one of those books where movie experts list their favourite movies and each one has a page of the book devoted to it. Perfect thought I and bought the book.

It was only when cleaning out my wallet and some days after I'd posted Ron his books that I noticed on the receipt that the title of the book was "1001 movies you must see before you die". I had not noticed this fact when purchasing it.

Can you imagine my reaction when i realised that I'd sent a book with that title to a guy who just had a near death experience and was starting out on the long road to recovery.

Thankfully Ron thought my faux pas was hilarious and has promised to see all the movies on the list even if it kills him

Thanks to all who played
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Haha, Paul, a good one, thanks!

If I were Ron, I would go to the movies VERY sporadically to make them last as long as possible. One never knows... ;-))
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Me Peter - Admin Paul

Glad you enjoyed it.
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Of course - Peter! Sorry for that!

I recently did the same thing to someone else - I thanked Jenburdoo for Noel's puzzle.

May it be a consolation for you that sometimes I mess up the names of my own kids. ;-))
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Great puzzle, and great story! It would have been great to have had a video camera to record both your reaction on realizing your oops, and his on seeing the title.
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Great puzzle! Thanks for the chuckle.
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Thanks for the kind comments. My experience is that real life throws up puzzles much superior to anything I could make up myself.
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Excellent puzzle! Too bad I had to wander off in the middle.

My friend has that book; it's very informative.

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