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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I sagled a few days ago, and it was really embarrassing and annoying. I almost sagled again yesterday, and I hope I never sagle again.

What is the meaning of the verb "to sagle"?

(Note: "sagle" rhymes with "waggle.")
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had you sagled before those two days?
Have you seen others sagle?
Could a child sagle?
Is sagle a bodily function or reaction (hiccups, for example)?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 9:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had you sagled before those two days? Yes
Have you seen others sagle? Yes
Could a child sagle? No
Is sagle a bodily function or reaction (hiccups, for example)? No
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does sagling involve driving?

Does sagling involve a misunderstanding? a scrund? a lapse of attention? forgetfulness? or is it an intentional action itself, but some misfortune requires it?
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Does sagling involve driving? Yes indeed!

Does sagling involve a misunderstanding? No a scrund? No a lapse of attention? Mostly this... forgetfulness? ...with a little bit of this. or is it an intentional action itself, but some misfortune requires it? No
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Were you fading into another lane?
Cutting someone off?
Making an illegal turn?
Running a light?
Balin (Balin)
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Were you fading into another lane? No
Cutting someone off? No
Making an illegal turn? No
Running a light? No
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When you sagle, does it get you lost? risk an accident? just slow you down?

Just a totally random guess: maybe being in the lane to go through an automatic toll booth, and remembering at the last second that you don't have the little transmitter gizmo that identifies you to the booth? There ought to be a verb for that.
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Ok, so since the random guessing proved fruitless...
Was it embarassing because of the people riding with you?
Because of the other drivers?
Both?
Were you on the highway?
Other city street?
I'm guessing white lines are relevant?
Lane markings?
Shoulder marking?
Did you drive off the road?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 2:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When you sagle, does it get you lost? No risk an accident? Likely this... just slow you down? and definitely this.

Just a totally random guess: maybe being in the lane to go through an automatic toll booth, and remembering at the last second that you don't have the little transmitter gizmo that identifies you to the booth? No, but that's happened to my mother quite a few times. We only got our E-Z Pass a few months ago, and she keeps forgetting to bring it. Anyway, random tangent over. There ought to be a verb for that. You're right; there should be. Feel free to coin it.

Ok, so since the random guessing proved fruitless... Not that bad; you were closer than you think.
Was it embarassing because of the people riding with you? No, as I was driving alone. If there were other people in the car, it would have been a big Yes.
Because of the other drivers? Yope
Both? See above answers
Were you on the highway? No
Other city street? Yes
I'm guessing white lines are relevant? Yes, in terms of placing the precise location.
Lane markings? Yes
Shoulder marking? No
Did you drive off the road? No

CLARIFICATION: I have seen other people sagle, but not very often.
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Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is parking relevant? Turning? Waiting for other traffic? Did you fail to notice that the road was clear? That a light had turned green? Did you slow down other motorists as well?
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Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 8:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Turn signals invovled? If so: Yours? Someone else's?
Balin (Balin)
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Is parking relevant? Turning? Waiting for other traffic? None of these Did you fail to notice that the road was clear? No That a light had turned green? No, but this is VERY close. Did you slow down other motorists as well? Yes

Turn signals invovled? If so: Yours? Someone else's? Yes to all but irrel
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Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 3:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Starting, stopping or speeding relevant?

Lane markings denoting where to stop? Where to turn?

I'm starting to suspect I have sagled... is it more common among novice drivers? Elderly drivers?
Balin (Balin)
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Starting, stopping or speeding relevant? Stopping, yes. No to rest.

Lane markings denoting where to stop? Yes Where to turn? But this too

I'm starting to suspect I have sagled... I hope you haven't... =P is it more common among novice drivers? Mostly this Elderly drivers? Possibly this, but more among novices.
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Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you fail to stop at a red light? or a stop sign?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you fail to stop at a red light? No, FA, but close or a stop sign? No
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you fail to turn when a filter light came on? Did you find yourself in the turn right or turn left only lane, or straight ahead lane for that matter, and you didn't want to be?
Balin (Balin)
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Did you fail to turn when a filter light came on? No, but this is close.Did you find yourself in the turn right or turn left only lane, or straight ahead lane for that matter, and you didn't want to be? No
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Did you turn when you shouldn't have?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you turn when you shouldn't have? No. This was more embarrassing than illegal ={
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Did you stall?
Balin (Balin)
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Did you stall? No
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What's a filter light?

Were you at a four-way stop?

Were you in an urban, suburban, residential or rural area, and is this relevant? Are particular national or local traffic laws relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 2:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's a filter light? It's a light where it only permits one lane to turn. Like a green arrow pointing left. (I didn't know what it meant either; I had to Google "traffic filter light" to answer that question, so don't worry about knowing it.)

Were you at a four-way stop? With all stop signs? No.

Were you in an urban, suburban, residential This or rural area, and is this relevant? Only to why it was annoying. Are particular national or local traffic laws relevant? Yope
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 2:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pedestrians involved?
Does this have anything to do with those new blinking yellow lights?
Did this happen at an intersection?
If so,
Was it between a primary and a secondary road?
Did it have any stop signs?
Did the first road have more than one lane in any direction?
Did the second road have more than one lane in any direction?
Was there a center turn lane?
Were you turning left? right? not turning? U-turn?
Is the type of your car relevant? The type of other cars?
Balin (Balin)
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Pedestrians involved? No
Does this have anything to do with those new blinking yellow lights? No
Did this happen at an intersection? Yes
If so,
Was it between a primary and a secondary road? Not really, but irrel
Did it have any stop signs? No
Did the first road have more than one lane in any direction? Yes
Did the second road have more than one lane in any direction? Yes
Was there a center turn lane? No but irrel
Were you turning left? This but irrel right? not turning? U-turn?
Is the type of your car relevant? The type of other cars? No to both
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 9:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you stop at a green light?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you stop at a green light? Unfortunately, I did!

**********SPOILER**********

To sagle is to stop at a green light, either when one is expecting a red light, not paying attention, or any other reason.

Sagling is typically embarrassing to you, and annoying to other drivers, especially those who end up stuck at the red light!

I tend to sagle for the first reason: I'm expecting the light to be red. This is because I have taken the same 30-minute route to Simsbury (where my church and old high school are) almost every day for a full year, and thus know which lights are usually red, and almost always automatically stop at them.

Nice work to all of you involved for lots of good questions, and Markobr for the solve.

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