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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 2:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He counted, “One, two, three,” and was satisfied. Annoyed, certainly, but not really surprised. Then he saw a fourth, and said, “Uh-oh.”
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Possible $poiler e-mailed.
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Balin suggested:

is it the "water compartments" on the Titanic that filled with water after the ship hit the iceberg? As I recall, three could fill and the ship would still float, but when the fourth filled it spelled doom....

Not this, sadly. IIRC, doom on the Titanic came after five compartments...
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Drat! Well, I guess I start at the beginning....

He = HAM?

"One, two, three": refers to objects? Persons? Animals? Does each number refer to the same thing?

"a fourth": the same thing as the "one, two, three"?

Does he die? Someone else? If not death, substantial injury? Monetary loss? Property loss? Zombie attack? Other damage?

True story? Aviation involved?
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He = HAM? Yes.

"One, two, three": refers to objects? This. Persons? Animals? Does each number refer to the same thing? Yes.

"a fourth": the same thing as the "one, two, three"? Yes.

Does he die? Someone else? If not death, substantial injury? Monetary loss? Yesish. Property loss? Yesish. Zombie attack? Other damage? No to the others.

True story? Aviation involved? Yes to both.
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Is the man a pilot? Is he in the air? Is this in wartime?

Are all the other objects planes? Some other aircraft? Maybe hot-air balloons?
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Is the man a pilot? No. Is he in the air? No. Is this in wartime? Yope.

Are all the other objects planes? Yes. Some other aircraft? Maybe hot-air balloons?
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Are the planes in the air? On the ground? Is a war about to start? An attack?

Are the planes part of an Air Force? Are those the only 4 planes involved?

Are any animals involved?
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Are the planes in the air? Yes. On the ground? Is a war about to start? An attack? No to the rest.

Are the planes part of an Air Force? Yes. Are those the only 4 planes involved? No.

Are any animals involved? No.
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Does the man count the planes passing overhead? Does he see them take off? Land?

Is anything wrong with the planes? Is the man in a plane? One of the four?
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Does the man count the planes passing overhead? Assume yes. Does he see them take off? Land? Neither.

Is anything wrong with the planes? No. Is the man in a plane? No. One of the four?
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Is there one other plane involved? 2? 3? 4? More?

Is it a fly-by? At a football game or something?

Was there supposed to be more than 4 planes? Less?
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Is there one other plane involved? 2? 3? 4? More? More.

Is it a fly-by? Yes. At a football game or something? Or something, yes.

Was there supposed to be more than 4 planes? Less? This.
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Were the first 3 planes the fly-by? And the fourth was following them?

Was the fourth a passenger plane?

Did any of the planes have a problem? Could the man see it? Is the man on the ground?
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Were the first 3 planes the fly-by? And the fourth was following them? No, they were all part of a larger flyby.

Was the fourth a passenger plane? No.

Did any of the planes have a problem? No. Could the man see it? Is the man on the ground? Yes.
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Were the planes out of formation? Were they late? Was one of the planes about to be destroyed? Was the place the man was? Somewhere nearby?
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Were the planes out of formation? Were they late? Was one of the planes about to be destroyed? Was the place the man was? Somewhere nearby? No to all.
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Is the man going to lose money/property? Someone else? Because of a bet?
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Is the man going to lose money/property? No. Someone else? They won't exactly lose money. Because of a bet? No.
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They...will the pilots of the 3 planes be affected by the bad thing? Of the fourth? Of the other planes?
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They...will the pilots of the 3 planes be affected by the bad thing? Of the fourth? Of the other planes? None of these.
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Any other people relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 12? More?
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Is it an air show? Are they enemy aircraft? Are they on their way somewhere? Is he annoyed by the planes? Was there a bigger gap to the fourth than between the three first ones? Relevant? Were all planes the same type? Were they fighters? Bombers? Cargo planes? Are they flying in formation? does the fourth plane signify something? Something bad?
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Any other people relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 12? More? Lots, really. Exact number irrelevant.

Is it an air show? Yes. Are they enemy aircraft? Yope. Are they on their way somewhere? No. Is he annoyed by the planes? Perhaps. Was there a bigger gap to the fourth than between the three first ones? Relevant? No. Were all planes the same type? Yes. Were they fighters? Bombers? This. Cargo planes? Are they flying in formation? Irr. does the fourth plane signify something? Yes. Something bad? Yes.
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Is the fourth plane not supposed to be in the airshow? Has it been sent on a mission?

Is the man in a stadium? Part of a large crowd?
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Is the fourth plane not supposed to be in the airshow? No. Has it been sent on a mission? No.

Is the man in a stadium? No. Part of a large crowd? No.
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Will he not gain money because of the fourth plane? When he intended to gain money?
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Will he not gain money because of the fourth plane?
No. When he intended to gain money? No.
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Does the fourth plane signify that somethig bad: has happened? Is going to happen? Is happening at the moment? Does the bad thing include: death? Injury? Destruction? Only financial loss? Is a bet relevant? Does the man know the pilot(s)? Is he responsible for the flyby? For the airshow?
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Does the fourth plane signify that something bad: has happened? This. Is going to happen? It might. Is happening at the moment? Yes.

Two answers to each question here - the first relating to what has happened or is happening, the second to what might happen.

Does the bad thing include: death? No/Yes. Injury? No/Yes. Destruction? No\Yes. Only financial loss? No/No. Is a bet relevant? No. Does the man know the pilot(s)? No. Is he responsible for the flyby? No. For the airshow? No.
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Has the bad thing happened to the "lots" of people? Is happening? Might happen?

Are the planes armed at the moment?

Is the man alone when he says this?
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Has the bad thing happened to the "lots" of people? Is happening? Might happen? This.

Are the planes armed at the moment? Irr, assume no.

Is the man alone when he says this? Irr.
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Will the planes cause the "bad thing"? Or do they just signify it?

Are the "lots of people" a town? Village?
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Will the planes cause the "bad thing"? No. Or do they just signify it? Yesish.

Are the "lots of people" a town? Village? Neither.
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Are the "lots of people" 100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? A million?
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re the "lots of people" 100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? A million? Depends how they affect or are affected by the situation. Hundreds of millions are affected by it, thousands are responsible for it.
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Did this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? On [LTPF list of continents]?

Has a war just ended? Is it peacetime in the middle of a war?
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Did this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? 20th. On [LTPF list of continents]? Europe.

Has a war just ended? Recently. Is it peacetime in the middle of a war? I know this is probably just a typo, but yes. :p
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Is the U.S. involved in the war?

I know that during WWI, on one Christmas, fighting stopped and opposing soldiers played soccer, talked, etc.: is this relevant?
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Is the U.S. involved in the war? Yes.

I know that during WWI, on one Christmas, fighting stopped and opposing soldiers played soccer, talked, etc.: is this relevant? No.
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Is the war World War I? II?
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Is the war World War I? No. II? No, but...
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Are the planes WWII-era? Did this occur in the 1940s? 1950s? More recent?
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The Berlin blockade relevant? The Berlin airlift?
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Are the planes WWII-era? Yes. Did this occur in the 1940s? This. 1950s? More recent?

The Berlin blockade relevant? The Berlin airlift? No to both.
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Did this involve some Japanese who were unaware of the war ending?
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Did this involve some Japanese who were unaware of the war ending? No.
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Is this after WWII? During?

Is the man a soldier? Was he?
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Is he a soldier? Spy? Official? Politician? Smuggler? Tradesman? Airport worker? Air controller? Otherwise involved in aviation? Is his occupation relevant at all?

Is he a citizen of an Allied country? Axis country? Neutral country? Relevant?

Is this shortly after the end of WW II hostilities? Does the fourth plane mean the war might continue? That a new war might break out?
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Is this after WWII? This. During?

Is the man a soldier? No. Was he? Irr.

Is he a soldier? Spy? No, but OTRT. Official? Politician? Smuggler? Tradesman? Airport worker? Air controller? Otherwise involved in aviation? No to the rest. Is his occupation relevant at all? Yes.

Is he a citizen of an Allied country? Yes. Axis country? Neutral country? Relevant? Yes. Keep in mind this is not during WWII.

Is this shortly after the end of WW II hostilities? Yes. Does the fourth plane mean the war might continue? No. That a new war might break out? Yope.
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Has the man's country just been liberated? Does he work for that country's government?

Is the man from France?
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Has the man's country just been liberated? Does he work for that country's government?

Is the man from France? None of these, though he does work for a government.
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Is he well-known? Then? Now?

Does he work for an Allied government? The U.S.? England?
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Is he well-known? Then? Now? No to all.

Does he work for an Allied government? The U.S.? This. England?
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Is he in Congress? Part of the Cabinet? Is he an aide? Or does he have a more minor government job?

Is he afraid that there might be an attack on the US?
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Is he in Congress? Part of the Cabinet? Is he an aide? Or does he have a more minor government job? This.

Is he afraid that there might be an attack on the US? Yes.
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Is he by the ocean? And sees the planes headed over the ocean?

Is he an ambassador?
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Is he by the ocean? No. And sees the planes headed over the ocean? No.

Is he an ambassador? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant which country he's in? Is he in an Allied country? Axis? Neutral?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant which country he's in? Not really. Assume Allied. Is he in an Allied country? Axis? This isn't WWII, remember. Neutral?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he near an airfield? Are the planes taking off? In mid-flight? Landing? Are the planes actually going to the US? Are they American bombers?

And as usual, I'm probably making this WAY more complicated than it actually is. Sigh.
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Is he near an airfield? No. Are the planes taking off? In mid-flight? This. Landing? Are the planes actually going to the US? No. Are they American bombers? Noish.

And as usual, I'm probably making this WAY more complicated than it actually is. Sigh. You're doing fine, so far.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they foreign bombers? That the Americans have captured?

Is the man a secret government worker?
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Are they foreign bombers? Yes. That the Americans have captured? No.

Is the man a secret government worker? Assume yes.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the bombers going from one European country to another? But the worker thinks they're going to the US?
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Are the bombers going from one European country to another? No. But the worker thinks they're going to the US? No.
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Drat, forgot it was a fly-by.

Are the workers leaving from and returning to the same airfield? Airport? Airstrip?

Relevant what the fly-by is for?
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Are the workers leaving from and returning to the same airfield? Airport? Airstrip? No to all.

Relevant what the fly-by is for? Yes.
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Is the fly-by for a sporting event? Funeral? Wedding? Parade? Celebration of some sort?
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Is the fly-by for a sporting event? Funeral? Wedding? Parade? This. Celebration of some sort?
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So the guy sees the bombers and assumes they're going to attack the US, when they're really just going for a parade fly-by?

Is it an end-of-the-war parade? An independence parade? Creation of Israel relevant?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the guy sees the bombers and assumes they're going to attack the US, when they're really just going for a parade fly-by? No.

Is it an end-of-the-war parade? No. An independence parade? No. Creation of Israel relevant? No.
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Are the bombers only going for the fly-by?

Is the man part of the parade crowd?
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Are the bombers only going for the fly-by? Yes.

Is the man part of the parade crowd? Irr.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it the amount of bombers that makes the man worried? Does he think they signify an attack on the US?
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Is it the amount of bombers that makes the man worried? Yes. Does he think they signify an attack on the US? Eventually.
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Did he believe that there was going to be an attack on the US? And the bombers "confirmed" this?
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Did he believe that there was going to be an attack on the US? Yes. And the bombers "confirmed" this? No, but they made it more likely.
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Had he received a message which he thought signified an attack?
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Had he received a message which he thought signified an attack? No.
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Did he see something earlier which had made him think this? Hear something?
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Did he see something earlier which had made him think this? Hear something? What he sees now is relevant.
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What he sees now: the planes? Something else relevant? Parade content relevant?
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What he sees now: the planes? This. Something else relevant? Parade content relevant? Just that the planes are part of it.
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Does he know that the planes are part of a parade? Does he assume that a fly-by for a parade would usually include not more than three bombers? Does he consider the participation of more bombers to be a demonstration of strength? That it constitutes the breach of a treaty? Or some more informal international agreement?

Are the bombers Soviet? British? American?
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Does he know that the planes are part of a parade? /b{Yes.} Does he assume that a fly-by for a parade would usually include not more than three bombers? No. Does he consider the participation of more bombers to be a demonstration of strength? Yesish. That it constitutes the breach of a treaty? No. Or some more informal international agreement? Very informal, maybe.

Are the bombers Soviet? Yes. British? American? Noish.
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Cold War relevant?
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Cold War relevant? Yes.
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Has the Cold War started yet? Does the man think the Cold War will escalate into a regular war?
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Has the Cold War started yet? Yes. Does the man think the Cold War will escalate into a regular war? Possibly.
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Does the parade only consist of Soviet military? Also the military of other socialist countries? Also the military of other Allied countries? Also the military of Axis countries? Neutral countries? Only of other countries than the Soviet Union and the bombers are "uninvited guests"?
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Does the parade only consist of Soviet military? This. Also the military of other socialist countries? Also the military of other Allied countries? Also the military of Axis countries? Neutral countries? Only of other countries than the Soviet Union and the bombers are "uninvited guests"?
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Does he see/hear the marching of the parade, see the bombers, and think the Soviets are preparing for an attack on the US?
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Is the specific type of bombers relevant? Does he note something special about the bombers besides their number and maybe type? Does he notice anything remarkable going on in the air besides the bombers?

Is the fact of the parade taking place at all something he didn't expect?

Does the parade take place in the Soviet Union? Some other socialist country? Germany? Austria?
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Is the specific type of bombers relevant? Yes. Does he note something special about the bombers besides their number and maybe type? No. Does he notice anything remarkable going on in the air besides the bombers? No.

Is the fact of the parade taking place at all something he didn't expect? No.

Does the parade take place in the Soviet Union? This. Some other socialist country? Germany? Austria?
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Nuclear bombs relevant? And a type of bomber which can carry them? Range of the type of bombers relevant? Their ability to reach the USA?
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Nuclear bombs relevant? Not at the time. And a type of bomber which can carry them? But yes. Range of the type of bombers relevant? Yes. Their ability to reach the USA? Yes.
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They are long range bombers, correct? Did he think the Soviet Union only had three of those at the time? And the fourth is indication that they are manufacturing new long range bombers? Or manufacturing them at great speed?
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They are long range bombers, correct? Yes. Did he think the Soviet Union only had three of those at the time? Yes. And the fourth is indication that they are manufacturing new long range bombers? Yes. Or manufacturing them at great speed? Irr. Now, what made him think they only had three?
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Did they only have three before? Were the three not manufactured in the USSR? Did they buy/get the three from somewhere else?
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Did they only have three before? Yes. Were the three not manufactured in the USSR? Correct. Did they buy/get the three from somewhere else? Yes.
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Did they get the three from the Americans? From him?
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Was the "uh-oh" from the realization that they had reverse-engineered the planes and set up their own production? Or also that they had done it quickly? Or covertly? Were they supposed to be unable to do this? Was he responsible for making sure it wouldn't happen? Or delaying it?
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Was the "uh-oh" from the realization that they had reverse-engineered the planes and set up their own production? Yes. Or also that they had done it quickly? Or covertly? Were they supposed to be unable to do this? Yes. Was he responsible for making sure it wouldn't happen? No. Or delaying it? No.

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During WWII, the Soviets wanted to buy B-29 Superfortress bombers, but the US refused to sell them any. They only obtained three, which landed in Russia after raids over Japan. The US was unconcerned, as they felt the USSR could not reverse-engineer the plane. In 1947, however, three were sighted over a military parade. Analysts assumed these were the three captured aircraft until a fourth appeared, and then a fifth, and the flabbergasted analysts realized the Soviets were building their own B-29s. Over 800 planes, called the Tupolev Tu-4, were eventually built. American defense policy had to be drastically changed to account for them.
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Nice puzzle, and I learned something new.
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Interesting story.

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