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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2923 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 2:31 am: |      |
He counted, “One, two, three,” and was satisfied. Annoyed, certainly, but not really surprised. Then he saw a fourth, and said, “Uh-oh.” |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 2:46 am: |      |
Possible $poiler e-mailed. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 2925 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 2:50 am: |      |
Balin suggested: is it the "water compartments" on the Titanic that filled with water after the ship hit the iceberg? As I recall, three could fill and the ship would still float, but when the fourth filled it spelled doom.... Not this, sadly. IIRC, doom on the Titanic came after five compartments... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1050 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 2:56 am: |      |
Drat! Well, I guess I start at the beginning.... He = HAM? "One, two, three": refers to objects? Persons? Animals? Does each number refer to the same thing? "a fourth": the same thing as the "one, two, three"? Does he die? Someone else? If not death, substantial injury? Monetary loss? Property loss? Zombie attack? Other damage? True story? Aviation involved? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2927 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 3:39 am: |      |
He = HAM? Yes. "One, two, three": refers to objects? This. Persons? Animals? Does each number refer to the same thing? Yes. "a fourth": the same thing as the "one, two, three"? Yes. Does he die? Someone else? If not death, substantial injury? Monetary loss? Yesish. Property loss? Yesish. Zombie attack? Other damage? No to the others. True story? Aviation involved? Yes to both. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1055 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 3:52 am: |      |
Is the man a pilot? Is he in the air? Is this in wartime? Are all the other objects planes? Some other aircraft? Maybe hot-air balloons? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2934 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:23 am: |      |
Is the man a pilot? No. Is he in the air? No. Is this in wartime? Yope. Are all the other objects planes? Yes. Some other aircraft? Maybe hot-air balloons? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1062 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:28 am: |      |
Are the planes in the air? On the ground? Is a war about to start? An attack? Are the planes part of an Air Force? Are those the only 4 planes involved? Are any animals involved? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2938 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:35 am: |      |
Are the planes in the air? Yes. On the ground? Is a war about to start? An attack? No to the rest. Are the planes part of an Air Force? Yes. Are those the only 4 planes involved? No. Are any animals involved? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1066 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:37 am: |      |
Does the man count the planes passing overhead? Does he see them take off? Land? Is anything wrong with the planes? Is the man in a plane? One of the four? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2942 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:42 am: |      |
Does the man count the planes passing overhead? Assume yes. Does he see them take off? Land? Neither. Is anything wrong with the planes? No. Is the man in a plane? No. One of the four? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1070 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:44 am: |      |
Is there one other plane involved? 2? 3? 4? More? Is it a fly-by? At a football game or something? Was there supposed to be more than 4 planes? Less? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2944 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:46 am: |      |
Is there one other plane involved? 2? 3? 4? More? More. Is it a fly-by? Yes. At a football game or something? Or something, yes. Was there supposed to be more than 4 planes? Less? This. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 4:53 am: |      |
Were the first 3 planes the fly-by? And the fourth was following them? Was the fourth a passenger plane? Did any of the planes have a problem? Could the man see it? Is the man on the ground? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2949 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:03 am: |      |
Were the first 3 planes the fly-by? And the fourth was following them? No, they were all part of a larger flyby. Was the fourth a passenger plane? No. Did any of the planes have a problem? No. Could the man see it? Is the man on the ground? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1077 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:11 am: |      |
Were the planes out of formation? Were they late? Was one of the planes about to be destroyed? Was the place the man was? Somewhere nearby? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2951 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:18 am: |      |
Were the planes out of formation? Were they late? Was one of the planes about to be destroyed? Was the place the man was? Somewhere nearby? No to all. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1080 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:23 am: |      |
Is the man going to lose money/property? Someone else? Because of a bet? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2954 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:33 am: |      |
Is the man going to lose money/property? No. Someone else? They won't exactly lose money. Because of a bet? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1084 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:54 am: |      |
They...will the pilots of the 3 planes be affected by the bad thing? Of the fourth? Of the other planes? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2958 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 12:10 pm: |      |
They...will the pilots of the 3 planes be affected by the bad thing? Of the fourth? Of the other planes? None of these. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1093 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 3:34 pm: |      |
Any other people relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 12? More? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 2081 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 6:44 pm: |      |
Is it an air show? Are they enemy aircraft? Are they on their way somewhere? Is he annoyed by the planes? Was there a bigger gap to the fourth than between the three first ones? Relevant? Were all planes the same type? Were they fighters? Bombers? Cargo planes? Are they flying in formation? does the fourth plane signify something? Something bad? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2961 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:10 pm: |      |
Any other people relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 12? More? Lots, really. Exact number irrelevant. Is it an air show? Yes. Are they enemy aircraft? Yope. Are they on their way somewhere? No. Is he annoyed by the planes? Perhaps. Was there a bigger gap to the fourth than between the three first ones? Relevant? No. Were all planes the same type? Yes. Were they fighters? Bombers? This. Cargo planes? Are they flying in formation? Irr. does the fourth plane signify something? Yes. Something bad? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1101 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:44 pm: |      |
Is the fourth plane not supposed to be in the airshow? Has it been sent on a mission? Is the man in a stadium? Part of a large crowd? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2962 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:35 am: |      |
Is the fourth plane not supposed to be in the airshow? No. Has it been sent on a mission? No. Is the man in a stadium? No. Part of a large crowd? No. |
Vadron (Vadron)
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Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 5:07 am: |      |
Will he not gain money because of the fourth plane? When he intended to gain money? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2965 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 6:19 am: |      |
Will he not gain money because of the fourth plane? No. When he intended to gain money? No. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 2086 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 8:43 am: |      |
Does the fourth plane signify that somethig bad: has happened? Is going to happen? Is happening at the moment? Does the bad thing include: death? Injury? Destruction? Only financial loss? Is a bet relevant? Does the man know the pilot(s)? Is he responsible for the flyby? For the airshow? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2966 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:15 pm: |      |
Does the fourth plane signify that something bad: has happened? This. Is going to happen? It might. Is happening at the moment? Yes. Two answers to each question here - the first relating to what has happened or is happening, the second to what might happen. Does the bad thing include: death? No/Yes. Injury? No/Yes. Destruction? No\Yes. Only financial loss? No/No. Is a bet relevant? No. Does the man know the pilot(s)? No. Is he responsible for the flyby? No. For the airshow? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1105 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 4:08 pm: |      |
Has the bad thing happened to the "lots" of people? Is happening? Might happen? Are the planes armed at the moment? Is the man alone when he says this? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2968 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 11:39 pm: |      |
Has the bad thing happened to the "lots" of people? Is happening? Might happen? This. Are the planes armed at the moment? Irr, assume no. Is the man alone when he says this? Irr. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1122 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 1:49 am: |      |
Will the planes cause the "bad thing"? Or do they just signify it? Are the "lots of people" a town? Village? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2973 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 2:36 am: |      |
Will the planes cause the "bad thing"? No. Or do they just signify it? Yesish. Are the "lots of people" a town? Village? Neither. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1132 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 2:39 am: |      |
Are the "lots of people" 100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? A million? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2976 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 2:46 am: |      |
re the "lots of people" 100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? A million? Depends how they affect or are affected by the situation. Hundreds of millions are affected by it, thousands are responsible for it. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1135 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 3:21 am: |      |
Did this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? On [LTPF list of continents]? Has a war just ended? Is it peacetime in the middle of a war? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2980 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 3:55 am: |      |
Did this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? 20th. On [LTPF list of continents]? Europe. Has a war just ended? Recently. Is it peacetime in the middle of a war? I know this is probably just a typo, but yes. :p |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1141 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 4:13 am: |      |
Is the U.S. involved in the war? I know that during WWI, on one Christmas, fighting stopped and opposing soldiers played soccer, talked, etc.: is this relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2982 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 5:03 am: |      |
Is the U.S. involved in the war? Yes. I know that during WWI, on one Christmas, fighting stopped and opposing soldiers played soccer, talked, etc.: is this relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1143 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 5:09 am: |      |
Is the war World War I? II? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2985 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:21 pm: |      |
Is the war World War I? No. II? No, but... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1150 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 1:14 pm: |      |
Are the planes WWII-era? Did this occur in the 1940s? 1950s? More recent? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 757 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 4:24 pm: |      |
The Berlin blockade relevant? The Berlin airlift? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2987 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 4:49 pm: |      |
Are the planes WWII-era? Yes. Did this occur in the 1940s? This. 1950s? More recent? The Berlin blockade relevant? The Berlin airlift? No to both. |
Tomsab (Tomsab)
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Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 4:52 pm: |      |
Did this involve some Japanese who were unaware of the war ending? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2990 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 4:55 pm: |      |
Did this involve some Japanese who were unaware of the war ending? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1154 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 5:02 pm: |      |
Is this after WWII? During? Is the man a soldier? Was he? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 760 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 5:14 pm: |      |
Is he a soldier? Spy? Official? Politician? Smuggler? Tradesman? Airport worker? Air controller? Otherwise involved in aviation? Is his occupation relevant at all? Is he a citizen of an Allied country? Axis country? Neutral country? Relevant? Is this shortly after the end of WW II hostilities? Does the fourth plane mean the war might continue? That a new war might break out? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2991 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 7:11 pm: |      |
Is this after WWII? This. During? Is the man a soldier? No. Was he? Irr. Is he a soldier? Spy? No, but OTRT. Official? Politician? Smuggler? Tradesman? Airport worker? Air controller? Otherwise involved in aviation? No to the rest. Is his occupation relevant at all? Yes. Is he a citizen of an Allied country? Yes. Axis country? Neutral country? Relevant? Yes. Keep in mind this is not during WWII. Is this shortly after the end of WW II hostilities? Yes. Does the fourth plane mean the war might continue? No. That a new war might break out? Yope. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1162 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 7:37 pm: |      |
Has the man's country just been liberated? Does he work for that country's government? Is the man from France? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2995 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 9:39 pm: |      |
Has the man's country just been liberated? Does he work for that country's government? Is the man from France? None of these, though he does work for a government. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1165 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 10:01 pm: |      |
Is he well-known? Then? Now? Does he work for an Allied government? The U.S.? England? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 2997 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 1:57 am: |      |
Is he well-known? Then? Now? No to all. Does he work for an Allied government? The U.S.? This. England? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1182 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 2:07 am: |      |
Is he in Congress? Part of the Cabinet? Is he an aide? Or does he have a more minor government job? Is he afraid that there might be an attack on the US? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3002 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:08 am: |      |
Is he in Congress? Part of the Cabinet? Is he an aide? Or does he have a more minor government job? This. Is he afraid that there might be an attack on the US? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1188 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:18 am: |      |
Is he by the ocean? And sees the planes headed over the ocean? Is he an ambassador? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3004 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:20 am: |      |
Is he by the ocean? No. And sees the planes headed over the ocean? No. Is he an ambassador? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 1190 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:23 am: |      |
Is it relevant which country he's in? Is he in an Allied country? Axis? Neutral? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3006 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:24 am: |      |
Is it relevant which country he's in? Not really. Assume Allied. Is he in an Allied country? Axis? This isn't WWII, remember. Neutral? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1192 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:28 am: |      |
Is he near an airfield? Are the planes taking off? In mid-flight? Landing? Are the planes actually going to the US? Are they American bombers? And as usual, I'm probably making this WAY more complicated than it actually is. Sigh. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3007 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:29 am: |      |
Is he near an airfield? No. Are the planes taking off? In mid-flight? This. Landing? Are the planes actually going to the US? No. Are they American bombers? Noish. And as usual, I'm probably making this WAY more complicated than it actually is. Sigh. You're doing fine, so far. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1193 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:36 am: |      |
Are they foreign bombers? That the Americans have captured? Is the man a secret government worker? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3009 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:39 am: |      |
Are they foreign bombers? Yes. That the Americans have captured? No. Is the man a secret government worker? Assume yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1195 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:41 am: |      |
Are the bombers going from one European country to another? But the worker thinks they're going to the US? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3010 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:42 am: |      |
Are the bombers going from one European country to another? No. But the worker thinks they're going to the US? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1196 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:47 am: |      |
Drat, forgot it was a fly-by. Are the workers leaving from and returning to the same airfield? Airport? Airstrip? Relevant what the fly-by is for? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3013 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:48 am: |      |
Are the workers leaving from and returning to the same airfield? Airport? Airstrip? No to all. Relevant what the fly-by is for? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1199 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:52 am: |      |
Is the fly-by for a sporting event? Funeral? Wedding? Parade? Celebration of some sort? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3016 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 3:58 am: |      |
Is the fly-by for a sporting event? Funeral? Wedding? Parade? This. Celebration of some sort? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1202 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:03 am: |      |
So the guy sees the bombers and assumes they're going to attack the US, when they're really just going for a parade fly-by? Is it an end-of-the-war parade? An independence parade? Creation of Israel relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3020 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:12 am: |      |
So the guy sees the bombers and assumes they're going to attack the US, when they're really just going for a parade fly-by? No. Is it an end-of-the-war parade? No. An independence parade? No. Creation of Israel relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1205 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:16 am: |      |
Are the bombers only going for the fly-by? Is the man part of the parade crowd? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3023 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:18 am: |      |
Are the bombers only going for the fly-by? Yes. Is the man part of the parade crowd? Irr. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1208 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:22 am: |      |
Is it the amount of bombers that makes the man worried? Does he think they signify an attack on the US? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3027 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:28 am: |      |
Is it the amount of bombers that makes the man worried? Yes. Does he think they signify an attack on the US? Eventually. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1213 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:37 am: |      |
Did he believe that there was going to be an attack on the US? And the bombers "confirmed" this? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3031 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:39 am: |      |
Did he believe that there was going to be an attack on the US? Yes. And the bombers "confirmed" this? No, but they made it more likely. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1216 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:42 am: |      |
Had he received a message which he thought signified an attack? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3033 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:43 am: |      |
Had he received a message which he thought signified an attack? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1218 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:44 am: |      |
Did he see something earlier which had made him think this? Hear something? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3036 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:46 am: |      |
Did he see something earlier which had made him think this? Hear something? What he sees now is relevant. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1222 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 4:49 am: |      |
What he sees now: the planes? Something else relevant? Parade content relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3040 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 5:03 am: |      |
What he sees now: the planes? This. Something else relevant? Parade content relevant? Just that the planes are part of it. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 763 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 1:16 pm: |      |
Does he know that the planes are part of a parade? Does he assume that a fly-by for a parade would usually include not more than three bombers? Does he consider the participation of more bombers to be a demonstration of strength? That it constitutes the breach of a treaty? Or some more informal international agreement? Are the bombers Soviet? British? American? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3042 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 7:25 pm: |      |
Does he know that the planes are part of a parade? /b{Yes.} Does he assume that a fly-by for a parade would usually include not more than three bombers? No. Does he consider the participation of more bombers to be a demonstration of strength? Yesish. That it constitutes the breach of a treaty? No. Or some more informal international agreement? Very informal, maybe. Are the bombers Soviet? Yes. British? American? Noish. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1240 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 7:29 pm: |      |
Cold War relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3043 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 7:31 pm: |      |
Cold War relevant? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1243 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 7:50 pm: |      |
Has the Cold War started yet? Does the man think the Cold War will escalate into a regular war? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3047 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 9:51 pm: |      |
Has the Cold War started yet? Yes. Does the man think the Cold War will escalate into a regular war? Possibly. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 766 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:04 pm: |      |
Does the parade only consist of Soviet military? Also the military of other socialist countries? Also the military of other Allied countries? Also the military of Axis countries? Neutral countries? Only of other countries than the Soviet Union and the bombers are "uninvited guests"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3050 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:14 pm: |      |
Does the parade only consist of Soviet military? This. Also the military of other socialist countries? Also the military of other Allied countries? Also the military of Axis countries? Neutral countries? Only of other countries than the Soviet Union and the bombers are "uninvited guests"? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1248 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |      |
Does he see/hear the marching of the parade, see the bombers, and think the Soviets are preparing for an attack on the US? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 768 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:37 pm: |      |
Is the specific type of bombers relevant? Does he note something special about the bombers besides their number and maybe type? Does he notice anything remarkable going on in the air besides the bombers? Is the fact of the parade taking place at all something he didn't expect? Does the parade take place in the Soviet Union? Some other socialist country? Germany? Austria? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3051 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:43 pm: |      |
Is the specific type of bombers relevant? Yes. Does he note something special about the bombers besides their number and maybe type? No. Does he notice anything remarkable going on in the air besides the bombers? No. Is the fact of the parade taking place at all something he didn't expect? No. Does the parade take place in the Soviet Union? This. Some other socialist country? Germany? Austria? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 770 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:10 pm: |      |
Nuclear bombs relevant? And a type of bomber which can carry them? Range of the type of bombers relevant? Their ability to reach the USA? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3059 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:23 pm: |      |
Nuclear bombs relevant? Not at the time. And a type of bomber which can carry them? But yes. Range of the type of bombers relevant? Yes. Their ability to reach the USA? Yes. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 2112 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 8:35 am: |      |
They are long range bombers, correct? Did he think the Soviet Union only had three of those at the time? And the fourth is indication that they are manufacturing new long range bombers? Or manufacturing them at great speed? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3061 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 1:42 pm: |      |
They are long range bombers, correct? Yes. Did he think the Soviet Union only had three of those at the time? Yes. And the fourth is indication that they are manufacturing new long range bombers? Yes. Or manufacturing them at great speed? Irr. Now, what made him think they only had three? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 2119 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 2:50 pm: |      |
Did they only have three before? Were the three not manufactured in the USSR? Did they buy/get the three from somewhere else? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3062 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 3:32 pm: |      |
Did they only have three before? Yes. Were the three not manufactured in the USSR? Correct. Did they buy/get the three from somewhere else? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 1267 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 3:40 pm: |      |
Did they get the three from the Americans? From him? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 2123 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Was the "uh-oh" from the realization that they had reverse-engineered the planes and set up their own production? Or also that they had done it quickly? Or covertly? Were they supposed to be unable to do this? Was he responsible for making sure it wouldn't happen? Or delaying it? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 3064 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 1:48 am: |      |
Was the "uh-oh" from the realization that they had reverse-engineered the planes and set up their own production? Yes. Or also that they had done it quickly? Or covertly? Were they supposed to be unable to do this? Yes. Was he responsible for making sure it wouldn't happen? No. Or delaying it? No. ************* Up in the air, Junior Spoilers! ************* During WWII, the Soviets wanted to buy B-29 Superfortress bombers, but the US refused to sell them any. They only obtained three, which landed in Russia after raids over Japan. The US was unconcerned, as they felt the USSR could not reverse-engineer the plane. In 1947, however, three were sighted over a military parade. Analysts assumed these were the three captured aircraft until a fourth appeared, and then a fifth, and the flabbergasted analysts realized the Soviets were building their own B-29s. Over 800 planes, called the Tupolev Tu-4, were eventually built. American defense policy had to be drastically changed to account for them. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 2157 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 3:01 pm: |      |
Nice puzzle, and I learned something new. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 782 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 7:22 pm: |      |
Interesting story. |