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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A group of researchers about to conduct an experiment reserves a small classroom at a university to do it in. At the last minute, one of them suggests that they need a bigger room. Although the basic experimental procedure hasn't changed, and they don't need any large equipment, he is technically correct. Why?
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Researchers are HAM? Has anything changed from the time they reserve the room and the time the new room is suggested? Relevant how many researchers? 1? 2? 3? 4 or more? Are the researchers affiliated with the university? relevant? Is the experiment scientific? in physics? chemistry? biology? sociology? psychology? product testing?
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Researchers are HAM? Yes, sex irr. Has anything changed from the time they reserve the room and the time the new room is suggested? No. Relevant how many researchers? 1? 2? 3? 4 or more? Irr. Are the researchers affiliated with the university? relevant? Irr., but probably. Is the experiment scientific? Yes.in physics? chemistry? biology? sociology? This. psychology? And thisish. product testing?
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do they need different acoustics? More fresh air? A higher ceiling? More floor space?
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Do they need any equipment, aside from test subjects? Are there test subjects? If so, do they know in advance everything that will happen in the experiment? Do they know they're a part of the experiment?
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Do they need different acoustics? More fresh air? A higher ceiling? More floor space? This, no to rest.

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Do they need any equipment, aside from test subjects? Very little. Are there test subjects? Yes. If so, do they know in advance everything that will happen in the experiment? Basically, but probably not details. Do they know they're a part of the experiment? Yes.
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Do they need space to fit enough people? To fit enough people in a certain way? So that they are not too close? To be able to separate different groups? Will the current room not fit an adequate sample size?
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Is the "last minute" at a time when some test subjects already arrived? All of them?

Did something relevant (except the scientists' thoughts, plans, feelings etc.) change between the reservation of the small room and the realisation they need a bigger one? Did they change their plans during that time? Did they get new information? Or just realise they made an unnecessary mistake?
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Anything to do with the acoustics of the room?
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Do they need space to fit enough people? No. To fit enough people in a certain way? Yes! So that they are not too close? No. To be able to separate different groups? No. Will the current room not fit an adequate sample size? No, it will.

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Is the "last minute" at a time when some test subjects already arrived? All of them? He could have realized it before or after their arrival.

Did something relevant (except the scientists' thoughts, plans, feelings etc.) change between the reservation of the small room and the realisation they need a bigger one? No. Did they change their plans during that time? No, though they would change them very slightly afterward. Did they get new information? Or just realise they made an unnecessary mistake? This.

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Anything to do with the acoustics of the room? Nope.

Good round of questions.
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Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the additional space needed so the distance between test subjects and scientists would be big enough? The subject's distance from each other? From walls? From furniture? Windows? From equipment? The scientists distance from each other? From walls? From furniture? From equipment? Windows?

Is furniture relevant at all?
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Are the subjects standing during the experiment? Sitting?
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Was the additional space needed so the distance between test subjects and scientists would be big enough? No. The subject's distance from each other? No. From walls? Not really. From furniture? Windows? From equipment? The scientists distance from each other? From walls? From furniture? From equipment? Windows? No to all, believe it or not!

Is furniture relevant at all? A little.

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Are the subjects standing during the experiment? Sitting? This.
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Are any of these relevant: ventilation? Heating? Lighting? Is the relevant distance needed: between objects? Between people? From objects to people? Will it be dangerous to perform the experiment in the small room? Or will the result be flawed?
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Is the test psychological in nature? Physical? Medical? Are they trying to avoid (or induce) some particular reaction by their subjects? By the scientists? Someone else? Any deception involved? Any scrunds? (If so by the scientists or their subjects?)

Will the subjects be interacting with each other? With the scientists? With someone else?

Is the era or location of the experiment relevant? Will it be published? Repeated? Is there anything unethical about it?

Length of time the experiment takes to run relevant?
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Are any of these relevant: ventilation? Heating? Lighting? No. Is the relevant distance needed: between objects? Between people? Yesish to both, "distance" may be misleading though. From objects to people? No. Will it be dangerous to perform the experiment in the small room? No. Or will the result be flawed? Yes, possibly!

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Is the test psychological in nature? This. Physical? Medical? No. Are they trying to avoid (or induce) some particular reaction by their subjects? Somewhat. By the scientists? Someone else? No to rest. Any deception involved? No. Any scrunds? (If so by the scientists or their subjects?) No.

Will the subjects be interacting with each other? No. With the scientists? Not much. With someone else? No.

Is the era or location of the experiment relevant? No. Will it be published? Repeated? Possibly, irr. Is there anything unethical about it? I wouldn't say so, although it might cause some stress to participants.

Length of time the experiment takes to run relevant? No.
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Number of test subjects relevant? Are the subjects HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed?
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Number of test subjects relevant? Not exactly, assume 30-50. Are the subjects HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed? Yes, sex irr.
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Is it an "isolation experiment" of some sort? Is the room completely empty? Are there tables in it? Chairs? A blackboard? Will the room be silent?
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Are the test subjects all sitting facing the same direction? Or are some facing different directions, if so, facing each other?
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Is the ability of test subjects to see something relevant? Hear something? Smell something?
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Balin (Balin)

Is it an "isolation experiment" of some sort? No. Is the room completely empty? No. Are there tables in it? Yesish. Chairs? Yes. A blackboard? Irr. Will the room be silent? Yes.

Danielm2168 (Danielm2168)

Are the test subjects all sitting facing the same direction? If you mean during the experiment once it actually begins, no. Or are some facing different directions, Yes, they will be. Good question. if so, facing each other? Yesish.

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Is the ability of test subjects to see something relevant? Yope. Hear something? Smell something? No to rest.
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are the test subjects sitting in one large circle? several small circles? would the experiment work of they were all sitting facing the same direction?

random guess: do the researchers need a bigger room now that they realize it takes more room to make a circle of people rather than sitting in rows?
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are the test subjects sitting in one large circle? Yes! several small circles? No. would the experiment work of they were all sitting facing the same direction? Noish.

random guess: do the researchers need a bigger room now that they realize it takes more room to make a circle of people rather than sitting in rows? Yes! Well done! Now, why do they need a circle?
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Are the researchers studying the effects of making adults play duck duck goose?
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Do the subjects all need to see each other? pass something around? talk to each other? touch each other? all see/hear/touch something in the middle of the circle?
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I hope you're right Danielm2168, that would be funny.

Is it important that each subject have someone both sitting to his "right" and his "left"? (that requires a circle, as far as I know)
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Are the researchers studying the effects of making adults play duck duck goose? No, but I'd love to know the results of that!

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Do the subjects all need to see each other? Noish. pass something around? talk to each other? touch each other? all see/hear/touch something in the middle of the circle? No to rest.

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I hope you're right Danielm2168, that would be funny. I almost wish it was.

Is it important that each subject have someone both sitting to his "right" and his "left"? (that requires a circle, as far as I know) Yes!
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Are there alternating genders in the circle? Is the test about whether a person will talk to the person sitting on his/her left or right?
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Are there alternating genders in the circle? Yes, that's one of several possibilities. Is the test about whether a person will talk to the person sitting on his/her left or right? No.
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Can the subjects see every other subject? Is there something in the center of the circle? Is a game being played?
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Does each subject have to directly interact with the people on either side of him/her? One at a time? At the same time?
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Can the subjects see every other subject? Irr. Is there something in the center of the circle? No. Is a game being played? No.

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Does each subject have to directly interact with the people on either side of him/her? No. One at a time? At the same time?
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Are the subjects standing in a circle? Sitting? Are they interacting with the other subjects? With someone else? Something else? Do the scientists have an active role in the experiment? Or are they just observing? Do the subjects share a certain characteristic? Or are they randomly selected?
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Are the subjects standing in a circle? Sitting? This. Are they interacting with the other subjects? No. With someone else? Possibly a little, irr. Something else? Yes. Do the scientists have an active role in the experiment? No. Or are they just observing? Not exactly. Do the subjects share a certain characteristic? Yope; they are alternating in some characteristic, like gender. Or are they randomly selected? No.
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Are the subjects touching each other? Relevant how they are sitting? Are they sitting on the floor? Cross-legged? In chairs? Are they interacting with something in the room? Is there anything other than the subjects in the room? Anything tangible? Are the subjects interacting with a tangible object?
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Are the subjects touching each other? No. Relevant how they are sitting? Not especially. re they sitting on the floor? Cross-legged? In chairs? Probably this. Are they interacting with something in the room? Yes, for svv of "interacting." Is there anything other than the subjects in the room? Yes. Anything tangible? Yes. Are the subjects interacting with a tangible object? Yes.
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Is the tangible object a table? Chair? Blackboard? Does the object have writing on it? Are they interacting with the same object? Different ones?
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Is the tangible object a table? Chair? Blackboard? No to all. Does the object have writing on it? Yes. Are they interacting with the same object? No. Different ones? Yesish.
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Is it a piece of paper? Is the specific writing important? Does each subject have the same writing? Different?
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Is it a piece of paper? Probably pieces, yes. Is the specific writing important? Not exactly, but the general idea of it is. Does each subject have the same writing? Yes. Different? No.
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Is the writing a sentence? Sentences? A list? Does the writing make a claim? About the subject reading it? About the other subjects? About the experiment itself? About the scientists conducting the experiment?
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Is the writing a sentence? Sentences? This, And more. A list? Noish. Does the writing make a claim? Not really. About the subject reading it? No. About the other subjects? No. About the experiment itself? No. About the scientists conducting the experiment? No.
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Is the writing a paragraph? An essay? A book? A pamphlet?
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Is the writing a paragraph? It might contain paragraphs, but... An essay? A book? A pamphlet? No to all.
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Is the writing coherent? Spelled correctly? Does it contain grammatical errors? Are the subjects being tested?
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Is the writing coherent? Yes. Spelled correctly? Yes. Does it contain grammatical errors? No. Are the subjects being tested? Yes indeed.
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Is the writing the test? Is it a general knowledge test? A lateral thinking test? A test on a specific subject? Specific subjects? Does the paper contain instructions? Were the subjects instructed before entering the room? Told anything before entering?
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Is the writing the test? Yes. Is it a general knowledge test? Probably. A lateral thinking test? Probably not. A test on a specific subject? It could be, but many could work. Specific subjects? Ditto. Does the paper contain instructions? No. Were the subjects instructed before entering the room? Probably, nothing especially relevant. Told anything before entering? No, nothing else relevant.
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Do the subjects answer the questions? Method of answering relevant? If so, orally? Written? Is there a specific feature about the subjects that's important?
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Do the subjects answer the questions? Yes. Method of answering relevant? No, but... If so, orally? Written? Probably this. Is there a specific feature about the subjects that's important? Yes, something like gender.
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Are the test answers important to the experiment? The length of time it takes the subjects to complete the test? Are they all given the exact same test?
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Are the test answers important to the experiment? Yes. The length of time it takes the subjects to complete the test? Probably not. Are they all given the exact same test? Yes.
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Are the questions personal? Is it important whether they answer the questions correctly? Truthfully? Quickly? Are the questions essay questions? Short-answer? Multiple choice? True/false? Yes/no? Questions of opinion? Of fact?
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Are they testing under what circumstances people tend to/are willing to cheat off each others' tests? maybe whether men are more likely to peek at women's answers than the reverse?

Is the relevance of the circle that, if the subjects were sitting in a straight line instead, the people at the ends would only have one neighbor's paper to peek at, whereas those in the middle would have two, thus introducing bias? are "ends" relevant at all?
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Are the questions personal? No. Is it important whether they answer the questions correctly? Yes. Truthfully? Irr. Quickly? This might be involved as well, but correctness is the main concern. Are the questions essay questions? Short-answer? Multiple choice? This is most likely. True/false? Yes/no? Questions of opinion? Of fact? This.

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Are they testing under what circumstances people tend to/are willing to cheat off each others' tests? Nope. maybe whether men are more likely to peek at women's answers than the reverse? No, but interesting idea.

Is the relevance of the circle that, if the subjects were sitting in a straight line instead, the people at the ends would only have one neighbor's paper to peek at, whereas those in the middle would have two, thus introducing bias? Yesish! are "ends" relevant at all? Yes, take out the cheating part and I think you've got it!
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Is the test to see if the people will ask their neighbor for help on the test? Which neighbor they will ask for help? Are the questions extremely hard?
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Is the test to see if the people will ask their neighbor for help on the test? No. Which neighbor they will ask for help? Nope. Are the questions extremely hard? Not necessarily.
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Relevant that in a circle, one can see everybody else in the circle? Are the desks facing inwards?
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Relevant that in a circle, one can see everybody else in the circle? Not especially. Are the desks facing inwards? Irr.
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Relevant in what order the people finish the tests?
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Relevant in what order the people finish the tests? Nope.
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Do the subjects remain silent throughout the experiment? Or do they converse with their neighbors? Relevant?
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Do the subjects remain silent throughout the experiment? This. Or do they converse with their neighbors? Relevant? Only in that it's a testing situation.
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Does the experiment involve the subject observing one's neighbors at all?
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Does the experiment involve the subject observing one's neighbors at all? Hm...I'll say no. Though the fact that they notice their neighbors is involved.
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Are any specific details of a subject's neighbors relevant? Are the subjects able to see the neighbors' test answers?
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Are they writing down what they think of their neighbours?
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Ok, check it out. The scientists where experimenting to see how many obese people would participate in an experiment. They correctly assumed how many would be there, and what equipment they needed. That's how they accounted for the space, but what they miscalculated was how fat the subjects where. ;)
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Gourami. You know the drill.. if you want to rescue this from Limbo please answer the outstanding questions
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Balin (Balin)

Are any specific details of a subject's neighbors relevant? No. Are the subjects able to see the neighbors' test answers? No.

Orangeee (Orangeee)

Are they writing down what they think of their neighbours? Nope.

Nervous (Nervous)

Ok, check it out. The scientists where experimenting to see how many obese people would participate in an experiment. They correctly assumed how many would be there, and what equipment they needed. That's how they accounted for the space, but what they miscalculated was how fat the subjects where. ;) An excellent solution! Unfortunately not the one I was thinking of.

These two previous questions should help:

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Are there alternating genders in the circle? Yes, that's one of several possibilities.

Is the relevance of the circle that, if the subjects were sitting in a straight line instead, the people at the ends would only have one neighbor's paper to peek at, whereas those in the middle would have two, thus introducing bias? Yesish! are "ends" relevant at all? Yes, take out the cheating part and I think you've got it!
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Will the subjects feel more confident if they have two people next to them? Less confident? More or less comfortable? More or less crammed?
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Will the subjects feel more confident if they have two people next to them? Less confident? The answers to these are unknown, but relevant-ish. More or less comfortable? More or less crammed? Irr to rest.
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Is the measured variable how many right answers the participants get? how much of the test they finish? how long it takes to complete the test?
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Do the subjects have to know what the people next to them are doing? Appear to be doing? Would it still work if the person next to a subject was a confederate of the experimenter? Is the experiment on cheating?

And welcome back, Gourami! We missed you...
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Do the subjects sit in a circle during whole experiment? Or does their arrangement change during the experiment?

Are there alternating genders in the circle during whole experiment? Or does the arrangement change during the experiment?

Is the purpose of experiment to check the impact of who your neighbor is on th correctness of the answers?
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Biograd (Biograd)

Is the measured variable how many right answers the participants get? Yes. how much of the test they finish? how long it takes to complete the test? No to rest.

Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)

Do the subjects have to know what the people next to them are doing? No. Appear to be doing? No. Would it still work if the person next to a subject was a confederate of the experimenter? Yes, but there'd be no reason for it. Is the experiment on cheating? No, no cheating involved.

And welcome back, Gourami! We missed you... Missed y'all too.

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Do the subjects sit in a circle during whole experiment? Yes. Or does their arrangement change during the experiment? No.

Are there alternating genders in the circle during whole experiment? Yes. Or does the arrangement change during the experiment? No.

Is the purpose of experiment to check the impact of who your neighbor is on the correctness of the answers? YES.
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So the subjects need to be in a circle so they all have the same number of neighbors? That way, each subject has two neighbors to impact their results (in a line, the ends would each only have one)?
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Balin (Balin)

So the subjects need to be in a circle so they all have the same number of neighbors? That way, each subject has two neighbors to impact their results (in a line, the ends would each only have one)? Ding ding ding!

********************LONG OVERDUE SPOILER

I based the puzzle on an experiment I read about people of different races, and whether minority children do worse on tests when surrounded by white children (several studies have shown, unfortunately, that they do). Of course, race in the experiment could be substituted for gender, height, etc. The design called for a control group of all one race, a control group of another, and one in which the two races alternate seats. Each group would take a difficult test, and the results would show whether either race, or both, feels a sort of intimidation when surrounded by "others" that affects their score. However, the floor layout of the experiment was:

X O X O X O X
O X O X O X O
X O X O X O X

Obviously, some participants are more surrounded by people of other races than others! Fortunately, in the puzzle, the researchers realize this and seat them instead in an alternating circle, so that each participant has someone of a different race on their left and their right.

Since a ring of desks takes up more space than three little rows, they realized they needed a bigger room.

Well done, Balin, and thank you for finishing it up!
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Wow - clever scientists! (And, clever puzzle!)

I'd never heard of that experiment before - interesting.

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