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A scrund about World War II has most unfortunate general implications that apply to present-day life. How come?
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A scrund you actually had?

Would a holder of this scrund have unwarranted views of a particular nation?

Is this about any single nation? If so, one of the Allied nations? Or their enemies? Or a neutral state? Is the Holocaust relevant? Is language relevant? Mussolini's ability to make the trains run on time? Hitler's vegetarianism? (Both, apparently, widely held misonceptions.)
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A scrund you actually had? yes

Would a holder of this scrund have unwarranted views of a particular nation? no

Is this about any single nation? no If so, one of the Allied nations? Or their enemies? Or a neutral state? Is the Holocaust relevant? noIs language relevant? noMussolini's ability to make the trains run on time? noHitler's vegetarianism? no(Both, apparently, widely held misonceptions.)
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Is the scrund about the causes of WW II? The situation of soldiers? Of civilians? The weapons used? Other military technology? The strategies used? Tactics? Decision making? The number of people killed? Injured? Everyday life at wartime? Things destroyed? Diplomacy? Law of war?
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Is the scrund about the causes of WW II? no The situation of soldiers? no Of civilians? yesThe weapons used? no Other military technology? no The strategies used? no Tactics? noDecision making? noThe number of people killed? yopeInjured? noish Everyday life at wartime? yesThings destroyed? no Diplomacy? no Law of war? no
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Is it about the casualties taken by a certain nation or nations? Russia's claim to have taken more casualties than everyone else combined relevant? Survivors of Hiroshima/Nagasaki relevant? Shelters relevant? Factories?
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Is it about the casualties taken by a certain nation or nations? noRussia's claim to have taken more casualties than everyone else combined relevant? no Survivors of Hiroshima/Nagasaki relevant? noShelters relevant? noFactories? no
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Bombing relevant? Targeting of populations? Cities? Rationing relevant? Impact of war on civilians? On society?
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Bombing relevant? no Targeting of populations? no Cities? no mpre than elsewhere Rationing relevant? yesImpact of war on civilians? yesOn society? yes
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Civilians' attitudes relevant? Attitudes towards their own country? Towards their enemy? Are the unfortunate implications evident in peacetime? Do politicians have the scrund?
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Civilians' attitudes relevant? no Attitudes towards their own country? no Towards their enemy? no Are the unfortunate implications evident in peacetime?VERY!! Do politicians have the scrund? possibly, but it has nothing to do with their being poloticians
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Rationing is relevant - rationing of food? Water? Fuel? Other energy sources? Barter trade relevant? Currency in gerneral?

Are the unfortunate implications related to preparations people make for a possible war? For other exceptional circumstances? Is the risk of new wars relevant at all?
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Rationing is relevant - rationing of food? yes Water? noFuel? noOther energy sources? noBarter trade relevant? no Currency in gerneral? no

Are the unfortunate implications related to preparations people make for a possible war? no For other exceptional circumstances? noIs the risk of new wars relevant at all? no
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Eating habits relevant?

Is the scrund about what kind of food was rationed? How much everyone got of a specific kind of food? Of calories in general? Carbon hydrates? Fat? Proteins? Another specific nutrient? About the effect of rationing on health? The reasons why rationing was necessary?
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Eating habits relevant? yes

Is the scrund about what kind of food was rationed? no How much everyone got of a specific kind of food? noOf calories in general? yope Carbon hydrates? yopeFat? yope Proteins? Another specific nutrient? noAbout the effect of rationing on health? yes The reasons why rationing was necessary? no
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Do people think the rationing was good for health? Bad? That it is simply not very important? Do they eat a lot of what was rationed back then? Avoid eating it?

Low-carb diet relevant? Low-fat diet?
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Food pyramid relevant?
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Do people think the rationing was good for health? no Bad? possibly That it is simply not very important? possiblyDo they eat a lot of what was rationed back then? noAvoid eating it? no

Low-carb diet relevant? yesish Low-fat diet? yes
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Food pyramid relevant?yope
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Is the scrund that a certain food is bad for you? Or good for you? Or food group? Or nutrient?
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Is the scrund that a certain food is bad for you? no Or good for you? no Or food group? no Or nutrient? no
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not really familiar with the specifics of rationing during the war but im guessing that proteins, dairy etc would have been fairly scarce. is the scrund that rationing in the war has led to people being used to a high fat high carb diet post war and contributed to general bad health/obesity/heart disease these days? when in fact the advent of wall to wall fast food is more likely the culprit?
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Does the scrund make people: fat? Skinny? Unhealthy? Wasteful? Sick? Dead?
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not really familiar with the specifics of rationing during the war but im guessing that proteins, dairy etc would have been fairly scarce. is the scrund that rationing in the war has led to people being used to a high fat high carb diet post war and contributed to general bad health/obesity/heart disease these days? no when in fact the advent of wall to wall fast food is more likely the culprit? Is it? I'm hardly an expert on this subject, but I know that there was a town in Finland that had such a high rate of heart diesase that the residents requested government aid--and this was way before the fast-food era (in the 1950's or 60's, I think).
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Does the scrund make people: fat? Skinny? Unhealthy? Wasteful? Sick? Dead? the scrund didn't do any of these things.
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Does the scrund affect health at all? Or agriculture? Food production? Food distribution? The environment?
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Does the scrund affect health at all? I suppose the scrund could affect health, but it needn't Or agriculture? no Food production? noFood distribution? no The environment? no
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Does the scrund cause people to spend money without a good reason? To lose time? To waste resources? To eat things they don't like? Not to eat things they do like?

Is the scrund about food in general? A certain kind of food? Preparation of food? Eating habits?
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Does the scrund cause people to spend money without a good reason? To lose time? To waste resources? To eat things they don't like? Not to eat things they do like? no to all

Is the scrund about food in general? yope A certain kind of food? yes Preparation of food? noEating habits? yes
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The certain kind of food, is it (or is it made from): veggies? Meat? Dairy? Eggs? Fruit? Honey? Fish? Shellfish? Leaves? Grain? Seeds? Nuts? Oil? Juice? Whales? Endangered species?
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The certain kind of food, is it (or is it made from): veggies? possibly Meat? yesDairy? yesEggs? probablyFruit? possibly Honey? unlikely Fish? unlikelyShellfish? unlikelyLeaves? leaves??Grain? possiblySeeds? ditto Nuts? ditto Oil? probably Juice? I don't know Whales? noEndangered species? no
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is the scrund that the wartime diet was good for health? was good for other reasons? does it relate to the wartime diet generally? and supposed benefits? disbenefits?

the unfortunate implications for modern day life; relating to what we eat? physical activity? some aspect of health?

if the scrund was believed what aspect of modern day life would be affected: health? wealth? safety? crime? education? transport? housing? jobs? income? religion? politics? artistic endeavours? sport? race relations?

who would suffer: everyone? poor people? rich people? men? women? children? people in one type of country? people in the US?

would people die?
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is the scrund that the wartime diet was good for health?No, people did not falsely believe that. You're very ORT, except for one little thing. . . . was good for other reasons? no does it relate to the wartime diet generally? yes and supposed benefits? yesdisbenefits yes

the unfortunate implications for modern day life; relating to what we eat? yesphysical activity? no some aspect of health? yes

if the scrund was believed what aspect of modern day life would be affected: health? possiblywealth? nosafety? no crime? noeducation? notransport? no housing? no jobs? no income? noreligion? nopolitics? no artistic endeavours? no sport? norace relations? no

who would suffer: everyone? many people poor people? rich people? men? women? children? people in these categories would probably suffer equally, except for poor preople, whio might suffer LESSpeople in one type of country? yes people in the US? yes, but not only people in the US

would people die?the death rate might be higher if more people believed the scrund
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Is the scrund that carrots/beta-carotene/vitamin A is good for your vision? When in reality it only helps if you're suffering from the effects of vitamin A deficiency?
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Is the scrund that carrots/beta-carotene/vitamin A is good for your vision? no When in reality it only helps if you're suffering from the effects of vitamin A deficiency? no
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Does the scrund affect what we eat? Does what we eat have unfortunate consequences? If so during: production? Processing? Packaging? Shipping? Storage? Sale? Eating? Disposal? Disposal of packaging? Does the scrund create more waste? Or more pollution?
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Does the scrund affect what we eat?it might Does what we eat have unfortunate consequences? yesIf so during: production? no Processing? no Packaging? no Shipping? noStorage? Sale? no Eating? yesishDisposal? noDisposal of packaging? noDoes the scrund create more waste? no Or more pollution? no
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HINT: What effect would you expect food shortages & food rationing to have on people's health?
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In general, poor?

Were some people actually healthier because they were denied foods rich in fat, salt, cholesterol, etc?
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In general, poor? yes

Were some people actually healthier because they were denied foods rich in fat, salt, cholesterol, etc? I'm afraid so!

******* SPOILER **************
Wouldn't you think that food shortages & food rationing would be bad for people's health? Alas, it's not so. I read in some disagreeable place that during World War II, the death rate from heart disease & diabetes went down in countries where food was in short supply. Bad news for those of us who LOVE to overeat, especially gooey desserts. Please see my new puzzle you know where.

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