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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Because they had the scrund, it almost didn't make the list.
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A numerical list? Alphabetical? Some other order? Bottom or top of the list?

They : HAM? Ethnicity, location, era, or terrain relevant?

Is it good to be on this list? Bad?

Is the list of people? Places? Things? Qualities? Quantities? Mixtures? Projects? Supplies? Vehicles?
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A numerical list? Noish Alphabetical? No Some other order? Yes Bottom or top of the list? Near the top

They : HAM? HA-Mixed Ethnicity, location, era, or terrain relevant? No, Noish, Yes, No

Is it good to be on this list? Yes Bad? No

Is the list of people? Places? Things? This Qualities? Quantities? Mixtures? Projects? Supplies? Vehicles?
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they have a scrund about the thing? Did it make the list because their scrund was corrected? Is it better to be near the top of the list? Is it a list of things to bring when going somewhere? When doing something?
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Did they have a scrund about the thing? Yes Did it make the list because their scrund was corrected? Indirectly Is it better to be near the top of the list? Yes Is it a list of things to bring when going somewhere? When doing something? Neither
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Era relevant... So, could this have happened within the last...

...10 years?
...30 years?
...50 years?
...100 years?
...200 years?
...500 years?
...1000 years?

Or even earlier?
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Era relevant... Yes, but it's actually closer to a Yesish. Sorry for the blooper. So, could this have happened within the last...

...10 years?
...30 years? This
...50 years?
...100 years?
...200 years?
...500 years?
...1000 years?

Or even earlier?
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Is it one thing? One kind of thing? Is the thing bigger than an: electron? Atom? Protein? Bacterium? Decimal point? Contact lens? Eyeball? Tennis ball? Head? Microwave? Chair? Couch? Truck? Mcmansion? Scyscraper? Airport? City? Country? Planet? The sun? The solar system? Milky way?
Does the list indicate that something should be done with the thing? That it should be used for something? Is it a top list?
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Is it one thing? Yes One kind of thing? Is the thing bigger than an: electron? Atom? Protein? Bacterium? Decimal point? Contact lens? Eyeball? Tennis ball? Head? Microwave? Chair? Couch? Truck? Mcmansion? Scyscraper? Airport? City? Country? Planet? The sun? The solar system? Milky way? FA to all
Does the list indicate that something should be done with the thing? NoThat it should be used for something? No Is it a top list? Yes
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Does the thing not have a specific size? Does it not have a size at all? Is it a substance? A concept? A force? Is it dangerous? Manmade? Invisible?
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Does the thing not have a specific size? Yes, with a tiny ish Does it not have a size at all? Yes, with the same tiny ish Is it a substance? No A concept? No A force? No Is it dangerous? No Manmade? Yes, with svv of "manmade" Invisible? Yes, but potentially same FA
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Math involved? Grammar? Geometry? Chemistry? Physica? Other scientific field? Is it energy? Sound? Waves? A disaster? An event? Is it fun?
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(World) records relevant? Sports involved?
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Math involved? Grammar? Geometry? Chemistry? Physica? Other scientific field? No to all Is it energy? No Sound? Yes, but more specific Waves? See previous answer A disaster? No An event? No Is it fun? Yes, with svv of "fun"
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Concerts relevant? Bands? Instruments? Songs? Tunes? Notes?

And to repeat my former questions: (World) records relevant? Sports involved?
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Concerts relevant? Bands? Instruments? Songs? This Tunes? Notes?

And to repeat my former questions: (World) records relevant? Sports involved? Neither. Sorry for missing them earlier - my bad.
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Is the scrund in the form of a mondegreen? Are the origins of the song relevant? The lyrics? Age? Instruments? Singer(s)? Translation(s)? Is money involved in the record?
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Is the scrund in the form of a mondegreen? No Are the origins of the song relevant? Yes The lyrics? Yes Age? It might help you identify the song, but Noish. Instruments? No Singer(s)? Again, it might help you identify the song, but Noish. Translation(s)? No Is money involved in the record? No
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"Losing my religion"? Relevant who wrote it? What it's about? Double/hidden meanings?
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"Losing my religion"? Yes...that was fast! Relevant who wrote it? No What it's about? Yes Double/hidden meanings? No

You've almost got it now.
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Are the origins required/helpful knowledge? Is the song about losing one's religion? Losing faith in God? Faith in something else? Can we wiki it without ruining the puzzle? I seem to recall it has something to do with a guy trying to get his message out in the media, and being silenced/gagged/misrepresented/something like that...relevant?
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Are the origins required/helpful knowledge? Might be. Is the song about losing one's religion? No - that's the scrund. Losing faith in God? No Faith in something else? No Can we wiki it without ruining the puzzle? I think so - feel free to. I seem to recall it has something to do with a guy trying to get his message out in the media, and being silenced/gagged/misrepresented/something like that...relevant? I thought it meant something else, but either way, you got the scrund. Now all that's needed is who "they" are, and why the song almost didn't make "the list".
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Are they religious? Atheists? Do they think the song doesn't belong on the list if it's about religion? If it puts religion in a bad light?
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Are they religious? Irrel Atheists? Irrel Do they think the song doesn't belong on the list if it's about religion? Yesish If it puts religion in a bad light? Irrel
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List: Charts? List of tracks for a record?

Did stores refuse to sell it?
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List: Charts? Please clarify List of tracks for a record? No

Did stores refuse to sell it? No
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Would a religious song go on a different relevant list? Or no list at all? Is the song's popularity relevant?
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Would a religious song go on a different relevant list? Noish Or no list at all? Yes Is the song's popularity relevant? Yes
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Single charts? Album charts?

Top 100? 50? 40? 30? 25? 20? 10?

Of the current week? Year? Decade? Longer period?
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Single charts? This Album charts?

Top 100? This 50? 40? 30? 25? 20? 10?

Of the current week? This Year? Decade? Longer period?
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Just to avoid misunderstandings... Current week = this very week in 2010? Or current week = some week 30 years ago (which I meant)?

Maybe farfetched, but... Did people think the song wasn't a song but some instruction on how to lose one's religion?
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Just to avoid misunderstandings... Current week = this very week in 2010? No Or current week = some week 30 years ago (which I meant)? It was 20 years ago, since the song's been determined, but this.

Maybe farfetched, but... Did people think the song wasn't a song but some instruction on how to lose one's religion? No
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You're right, I mixed up the meaning of this song and "New Test Leper"

Is it a list of "Top <something> singles"? Non-religious? Will all songs about religion be excluded from the list? Is it relevant what the song really is about? Or just that it's not religious?
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Is it a list of "Top <something> singles"? Yes Non-religious? No Will all songs about religion be excluded from the list? Not necessarily Is it relevant what the song really is about? No Or just that it's not religious? Yes
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Is the country the charts apply to relevant? If so, is it a North American one? South American? European? Asian? African? Australian?

Was the song almost excluded because whoever was responsible for determinating the charts thought the song was anti-religion/ heretical?
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Is the country the charts apply to relevant? Not really If so, is it a North American one? This South American? European? Asian? African? Australian?

Was the song almost excluded because whoever was responsible for determinating the charts thought the song was anti-religion/ heretical? No. I think there's an FA running through here.
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Will some songs about religion be excluded from the list? If so, is it relevant: how religion is portrayed? Which religion is portrayed? One or more specific words?
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Will some songs about religion be excluded from the list? Yes, but possible FA If so, is it relevant: how religion is portrayed? Which religion is portrayed? One or more specific words? None of these
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Will songs not mentioning religion also be excluded, based on the same criteria? Is the song title relevant? Or would it have been the same had it been called something completely different?
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Will songs not mentioning religion also be excluded, based on the same criteria? No, same FA Is the song title relevant? Only in that it mentions religion Or would it have been the same had it been called something completely different? Possibly, since the song uses the title phrase
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Is using the word "excluded" relevant to the FA? If so is "not qualify" better?
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Is using the word "excluded" relevant to the FA? Yes If so is "not qualify" better? Yes
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Is it "Top non-<something>"? Or just "Top <something>" where <something> does not include religion? Secularism relevant?
Are "they":
Artistic? Musical?
Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman?
Banking? Financial? Real estate?
Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist?
Computer related? Hardware? Information technology?
Construction? Craftsman?
Criminal? Jailbird?
Education? Academic Research?
Entertainment? Media?
Executive? Management?
Hospitality? Travel? Food Service?
Law enforcement? Police?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing? Distributions?
Medical? Health Services?
Politics? Government? Military?
Sales? Marketing? Tradesman?
Religion?
Retired person? Occupational disease?
Sports?
Student? Trainee?
Teaching? Child care?
Technical? Science? Engineering?
Transportation?
Unemployed?
Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter?
Other?
Are "they" editors of a magazine?
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Is it "Top non-<something>"? No Or just "Top <something>" Yes where <something> does not include religion? Not necessarily Secularism relevant? No
Are "they":
Artistic? Musical?
Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman?
Banking? Financial? Real estate?
Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist?
Computer related? Hardware? Information technology?
Construction? Craftsman?
Criminal? Jailbird?
Education? Academic Research?
Entertainment? Media?
Executive? Management?
Hospitality? Travel? Food Service?
Law enforcement? Police?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing? Distributions?
Medical? Health Services?
Politics? Government? Military?
Sales? Marketing? Tradesman?
Religion?
Retired person? Occupational disease?
Sports?
Student? Trainee?
Teaching? Child care?
Technical? Science? Engineering?
Transportation?
Unemployed?
Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter?
Other? Executives at a music label
Are "they" editors of a magazine? No

HINT: The "list" has been determined already.
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Hooray yet another REM inspired puzzle.


So Warner Bros had a scrund about Losing My Religeon in so far as they thought the song was about religeon whereas it's about losing one's temper? This scrund nearly prevented the song from being selected as a single? and thus nearly prevented it from appearing in the singles chart?

Did they feel the song title would prevent certain radio stations from playing it thus reducing it's airplay and sales? Or did they think the public would be loathe to buy a single with that title?

Is the fact that this song represents REM's breakthrough into the mainstream relevant?

Is there a separate Religeous song chart? Were they worried about how the song would be categorized?
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Hooray yet another REM inspired puzzle. Figured you might appreciate this one =)


So Warner Bros had a scrund about Losing My Religeon in so far as they thought the song was about religeon whereas it's about losing one's temper? I'm not sure if that's exactly what it's about, but in general, yes. This scrund nearly prevented the song from being selected as a single? Yes!!!! and thus nearly prevented it from appearing in the singles chart? Exactly right!

Did they feel the song title would prevent certain radio stations from playing it thus reducing it's airplay and sales? Or did they think the public would be loathe to buy a single with that title? Irrel

Is the fact that this song represents REM's breakthrough into the mainstream relevant? Noish

Is there a separate Religeous song chart? I think so, but irrel Were they worried about how the song would be categorized Yope

Who's up for a

**********SPOILER**********

"When REM recorded their album Out of Time in 1991, ["Losing My Religion"] was the song that stood out as an obvious single. The only problem was that Warner Bros. execs didn't want to release a record with religious symbolism. But according to lead singer Michael Stipe, the song actually has nothing to do with religion. 'The phrase "losing my religion" is Southern slang,' he explained. 'It means "fed up" or "at the end of your rope."' REM insisted that it be released, and Warner Bros. finally gave in. Good decision: It was a Top 5 single that won a Grammy for Best Song in 1992." [Source: Uncle John's All-Purpose Extra Strength Bathroom Reader, "Behind the Hits," page 98.]

So the puzzle statement could be reworded as such:

Because Warner Bros executives thought "Losing My Religion" was a religious song, it almost wasn't selected as a single, and thus almost didn't make the Top 100 Singles chart, or list.

Nice job goes to everyone who worked on it, especially Potato and Galfisk for the groundwork, and Peter365 for the REM solve.

Random fact: when I was in Florida a couple weeks ago, the resort I was staying at had a karaoke night, and this was the first song I sang.
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These REM puzzles are making me a shiny happy person. Nice work Balin.

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