| Author | Message | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2010 |
The statement about certain cake made a lot of people very surprised, some of them even angry and one particular person unexpectedly famous. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2578 Registered: 9-2009 |
"Let them eat cake" relevant? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Let them eat cake" relevant? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2228 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a particular type of cake? Chocolate? Carrot? Cheesecake? Ice cream cake? Birthday cake? "Cake" = tasty dessert? The band? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a particular type of cake? Yes Chocolate? No Carrot? No Cheesecake? No Ice cream cake? No Birthday cake? No "Cake" = tasty dessert? Yope The band? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2232 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it an actual cake? Edible? Or is it something that looks like a cake? In the shape of a cake? Is it a cupcake? Is it other food shaped like a cake (I saw a "meat cake" online once)? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it an actual cake? Yes Edible? Yes Or is it something that looks like a cake? No In the shape of a cake? No Is it a cupcake? No Is it other food shaped like a cake (I saw a "meat cake" online once)? No To avoid confusion, it's actual type of cake, it's just that the cake itself isn't really relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2234 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the statement concern how edible the cake is? Its taste? Size? Shape? Is eating the cake relevant? Is it a layered cake? Bundt cake? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the statement concern how edible the cake is? No Its taste? No Size? No Shape? No Is eating the cake relevant? No Is it a layered cake? No Bundt cake? Yesish | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 64 Registered: 7-2010 |
Does the statement refer to the type of cake in general? To the origin of the cake? To the way the cake is made? Or does it refer to one particular cake baked for one particular occasion? If so, is the occasion relevant? Was the cake not appropiate for that occasion? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the statement refer to the type of cake in general? Yes To the origin of the cake? No To the way the cake is made? No Or does it refer to one particular cake baked for one particular occasion? If so, is the occasion relevant? Was the cake not appropiate for that occasion? No to rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2252 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the "type of cake" a flavor? Shape? Is the cake made with typical cake ingredients? Is the statement one of opinion? Of fact? Is it funny? "How come when you mix flour and water, you get glue? And when you add eggs and sugar, you get a cake? Where does the glue go?" -Rita Rudner | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 79 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the "type of cake" a flavor? Noish Shape? Noish Is the cake made with typical cake ingredients? Yes Is the statement one of opinion? No Of fact? Yesish Is it funny? Kind of... statement itself isn't all that funny, but it definitely made some people amused. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2269 Registered: 4-2010 |
You said "yesish" to Bundt cake - relevant that there's a hole in the middle? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 80 Registered: 4-2010 |
You said "yesish" to Bundt cake - relevant that there's a hole in the middle? It might have shape of bundt cake, but not necessarily have to. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2277 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would I be able to make this cake? Would you? Relevant how many people make the cake? Is the statement well-known? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 81 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would I be able to make this cake? Maybe Would you? With a recipe probably yes. Relevant how many people make the cake? No. And as I mentioned earlier the cake itself isn't all that relevant. Is the statement well-known? Yesish. Among certain group of people. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2291 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the ones making the cake relevant? The ones eating it? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 82 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the ones making the cake relevant? No The ones eating it? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2311 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the cake exist in real life? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 83 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the cake exist in real life? If you mean that this type of cake exists, then yes. But the statement doesn't refer to one particular cake. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2355 Registered: 4-2010 |
Let's try another tack... Is the famous person male? Female? Adult? Is the person well-known worldwide? Just in certain countries? Is the person considered a celebrity? Is the person in [LTPF list of professions]? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 84 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the famous person male? This Female? Adult? Yes Is the person well-known worldwide? Yes, but again mostly among certain people Just in certain countries? No, though maybe bit more in US Is the person considered a celebrity? Noish Is the person in [LTPF list of professions]? I think he's a student, but it's not relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2357 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the person famous only because of the cake statement? For doing something? Related to the cake statement? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 85 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the person famous only because of the cake statement? No For doing something? Yes Related to the cake statement? Yes, in lateral way | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 900 Registered: 6-2008 |
Does his statement refer to a literal cake? or does it involve an expression concerning cake (such as "They're selling like hotcakes!")? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 86 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does his statement refer to a literal cake? Yes or does it involve an expression concerning cake (such as "They're selling like hotcakes!")? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2453 Registered: 4-2010 |
Could the statement be considered a proverb? Advice? A quip? Is the tone of the statement positive? Negative? Neutral? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2010 |
Could the statement be considered a proverb? No Advice? No A quip? No Is the tone of the statement positive? Negative? Neutral? This | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2701 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is he the guy who caked Bill Gates? Cake to the face relevant? Is the statement about something the cake is('nt)? Something do do (or not do) with the cake? How to make (or not make) it? Is the statement based on a scrund? Is religion involved? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 88 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he the guy who caked Bill Gates? No Cake to the face relevant? No Is the statement about something the cake is('nt)? Yes Something do do (or not do) with the cake? No How to make (or not make) it? No Is the statement based on a scrund? No Is religion involved? No A little hint: the content of the statements isn't all that important. It might help if you heard the story before, but otherwise not. Though there is something else about the statement worth exploring. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2461 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a person mentioned in the statement? Is it just "cake is good" or something like that? Is it a statement of opinion? Is the speaker of the statement relevant? Is he the one who became famous? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 89 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a person mentioned in the statement? No Is it just "cake is good" or something like that? No Is it a statement of opinion? No Is the speaker of the statement relevant? Yope, little FA here Is he the one who became famous? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2467 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement spoken? Written? Is the work the statement is from relevant? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement spoken? No Written? Yesish Is the work the statement is from relevant? I'm not sure what do you mean. Can you please rephrase? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2468 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement from a work of literature? If so, relevant which piece of lit? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 91 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement from a work of literature? No If so, relevant which piece of lit? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2019 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the reference to a cake made for a certain kind of event? Like a birthday? Wedding? Holiday? Other? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 92 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the reference to a cake made for a certain kind of event? Like a birthday? Wedding? Holiday? Other? No to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2473 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the following things about the cake relevant: Type? Size? Flavor? How moist it is? Is it ice cream cake? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 93 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the following things about the cake relevant: Type? Size? Flavor? How moist it is? Is it ice cream cake? Only thing relevant about the cake is it's name. That might help detect the statement, but it's not crucial to solving the puzzle. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2507 Registered: 4-2010 |
By "name" do you mean: Brand name? Nickname? Proper name? Type? "Special" type of cake (i.e. for ice cream, "Death by Chocolate")? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2723 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the cake name also have another meaning? Was the statement misinterpreted? Were the angry people offended? Is the cake a twinkie? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 94 Registered: 4-2010 |
By "name" do you mean: Brand name? No Nickname? No Proper name? Yes Type? Yes "Special" type of cake (i.e. for ice cream, "Death by Chocolate")? No Does the cake name also have another meaning? No Was the statement misinterpreted? No Were the angry people offended? No Is the cake a twinkie? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2525 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the cake from a specific restaurant? Store? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 95 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the cake from a specific restaurant? No Store? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2761 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the angry people have a stake in the cake business? Did the statement affect the sales of the cake? Of something else? Is the person who made the statement the same one who became famous? Did he become famous because of the statement? Are the occupations relevant for the surprised people? Angry people? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the angry people have a stake in the cake business? No Did the statement affect the sales of the cake? No Of something else? No Is the person who made the statement the same one who became famous? No Did he become famous because of the statement? Not directly. Are the occupations relevant for the surprised people? No Angry people? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2555 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the occupation of the one who made the statement relevant? If so, [LTPF list of occupations]? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 97 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the occupation of the one who made the statement relevant? No, FA If so, [LTPF list of occupations]? There is something about the statement that still remains unrevealed, which led to FA in last question. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2569 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement spoken? Written? On the cake? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 98 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement spoken? No Written? Yesish On the cake? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2578 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can the statement be read? Is it written: On paper? In an e-mail? On the internet? Skywriting? Banner behind a plain? In the sand? Is it written: With pencil? Pen? Typed? With materials used in the cake? Would one typically write with this item? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 99 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can the statement be read? Yes, if you know how. Is it written: On paper? In an e-mail? On the internet? This. Skywriting? Banner behind a plain? In the sand? Is it written: With pencil? Pen? Typed? This With materials used in the cake? Would one typically write with this item? If you mean keyboard then yes. :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2655 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement on a blog? A forum? LTPF relevant? Is the statement in code? In white text? Small? Large? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 100 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the statement on a blog? No* A forum? No* LTPF relevant? No Is the statement in code? Well, for SVV of code. But you're on right track. In white text? No Small? Large? Standard size. * - It's a true story and it's likely that the statement was later mentioned on some blog or forum, but that's not relevant to the puzzle. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2663 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the statement have a specific meaning? Would only certain people understand the meaning of the statement? Did it have a hidden meaning? Was it an inside joke? Was it meant for the public's ears? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 101 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the statement have a specific meaning? No, no meaning at all. Would only certain people understand the meaning of the statement? No Did it have a hidden meaning? No Was it an inside joke? No Was it meant for the public's ears? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2864 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it (part of) an advertisement? Was it a joke? Was it filler text, meant to be replaced with something else? Was it hidden? Was it in the source code of a webpage? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it (part of) an advertisement? No Was it a joke? Yes Was it filler text, meant to be replaced with something else? No Was it hidden? Yes Was it in the source code of a webpage? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2676 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it an easter egg? Was it a one-liner? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 103 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it an easter egg? Yesish Was it a one-liner? No BLOOPER: I said yes to a joke, but yesish or maybe yope may be more adequate. Statement itself isn't joke, but making it was meant to entertain. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2742 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the statement part of a story? Did the statement stand on its own? Was the statement satirical? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 104 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the statement part of a story? No Did the statement stand on its own? Noish Was the statement satirical? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2971 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant what was on the website? Was it hidden in some other text? In a game? Was it hidden by having the same color as the background? By being in an unreadable font? Or tiny? Is the website well known? Was it an April Fools thing? Were the angry people fooled? Did they take something too seriously? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant what was on the website? Yes! Was it hidden in some other text? Yes In a game? No Was it hidden by having the same color as the background? No By being in an unreadable font? No Or tiny? No Is the website well known? I would say yes, but DOYD of well known. Was it an April Fools thing? No Were the angry people fooled? No Did they take something too seriously? It was meant to be taken seriously, so they had right to be angry, but it wasn't that big of a deal. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2792 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it a hidden message? An acrostic? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 106 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it a hidden message? Yes An acrostic? Yes!! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2803 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it hidden in the first letter of every word? Sentence? Line? Paragraph? Relevant? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it hidden in the first letter of every word? Sentence? Line? This Paragraph? Relevant? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2805 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the concealing text a poem? An article? Memo? Is the content of the concealing text relevant? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 108 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the concealing text a poem? No An article? No Memo? No Is the content of the concealing text relevant? Not really, more important is what is it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2809 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the concealing text a recipe? A list? Does the concealing text involve cake at all? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 109 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the concealing text a recipe? No A list? Yes! Does the concealing text involve cake at all? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2827 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a shopping list? Song list? List of websites? Sports teams? Something involving food? People? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 110 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a shopping list? No Song list? No List of websites? No Sports teams? No Something involving food? No People? Yes | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2010 |
Well, for a while I thought it would be "The cake is a lie" ... Is the list a list of people? celebrities? Were the angry people angry because: they didn't understand? they weren't on the list? they were on the list? they were frustrated trying to find the message? trying to figure out its meaning? the message referred to them? they kicked themselves after seeing the message? Should we try to figure out who these people are? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 111 Registered: 4-2010 |
Well, for a while I thought it would be "The cake is a lie" ... My friend also though about this when I told him the puzzle. :-) Is the list a list of people? Yes celebrities? Yesish Were the angry people angry because: they didn't understand? No they weren't on the list? No they were on the list? Yope they were frustrated trying to find the message? No trying to figure out its meaning? No the message referred to them? No they kicked themselves after seeing the message? No Should we try to figure out who these people are? No, just why they are angry / surprised. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 30 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is a game relevant? The Game (which I just lost)? Sport? Board game? Card game? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2861 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the angry people the ones listed? Related to them? Acquaintances of them? Did the people listed share a certain quality? Characteristic? Job? Popularity? Were they within close geographical proximity of each other? Of the one who made the list? Was the one who became famous the one who made the list? One of the people on the list? One of the angry people? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 112 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a game relevant? Not really relevant for solving the puzzle, but it was part of the statement. The Game (which I just lost)? Yes, I think this was the game statement referred to. Sport? Board game? Card game? Were the angry people the ones listed? Some of them, yes. Related to them? Possibly Acquaintances of them? Possibly Did the people listed share a certain quality? This Characteristic? Job? Popularity? Were they within close geographical proximity of each other? No Of the one who made the list? No Was the one who became famous the one who made the list? No One of the people on the list? Yes One of the angry people? He definitely wasn't angry. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2864 Registered: 4-2010 |
Let me try a recap... A statement about cake was hidden in a list of people sharing a certain quality. The statement consisted of the first letters of their names. The statement made some people angry; some of these people were on the list, but not all. One of the people on the list (not one of the angry folks) became unexpectedly famous. This good? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2010 |
By "the statement" in your answers to my previous questions, do you mean the puzzle statement? Or the hidden message? If it's the latter, am I correct in saying that the message referenced both The Game and cake? Were the people angry because they lost The Game? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2010 |
Let me try a recap... A statement about cake was hidden in a list of people sharing a certain quality. Right The statement consisted of the first letters of their names. Right The statement made some people angry; In lateral way, yes. But not the content of the statement! some of these people were on the list, but not all. Yes, though I can't really tell who was and who wasn't angry about it, but the people on the list and some other people had reason to be angry. One of the people on the list (not one of the angry folks) became unexpectedly famous. Right This good Very close, except for the reason why their were angry and he became famous. There is something about the list that made possible to make that statement. By "the statement" in your answers to my previous questions, do you mean the puzzle statement? Or the hidden message? This, "the statement about certain cake" If it's the latter, am I correct in saying that the message referenced both The Game and cake? Yes Were the people angry because they lost The Game? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2878 Registered: 4-2010 |
"A piece of cake" relevant? Was it not the statement that made people angry, but the people listed? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2010 |
Just making sure: we're referring to the mind game where thinking about it makes you lose, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29 Was there anything on the site besides the list? Was the site a news site? gaming site? forum? Were the people angry because of: the message? the contents of the list? the contents of the site? So the cake is yesishly a bundt cake? Was the cake statement put in: as a joke? to make a statement about cake? to pass a secret message? because the author lost The Game? Sidd Finch relevant, by any chance? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 114 Registered: 4-2010 |
"A piece of cake" relevant? No Was it not the statement that made people angry, but the people listed? Yesish, it's the order in which they end up listed. Just making sure: we're referring to the mind game where thinking about it makes you lose, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29 Yes, but it's not really relevant. Was there anything on the site besides the list? Yes Was the site a news site? Yes gaming site? No forum? No Were the people angry because of: the message? the contents of the list? the contents of the site? See previous answer, it was the order of people on the list So the cake is yesishly a bundt cake? It usually have same shape, but this isn't relevant. Was the cake statement put in: as a joke? This to make a statement about cake? to pass a secret message? because the author lost The Game? Sidd Finch relevant, by any chance? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2890 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the order of people listed make the statement coincidentally? Intentionally? Were the full names of the people given? Was their first name listed first? Last name (like Presley, Elvis)? And Whirligig: If you're interested in "The Game"-related puzzles, check out Fermat1601's "Just to annoy you" in the July 2010 archives. You may have come across it while lurking. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2010 |
Darn it, I just prashcked! The order was the source of anger ... Was the list ranked? As in best to worst, worst to best, richest to poorest, poorest to richest, etc.? Were the angry people at the top of the list? bottom of the list? middle? throughout? Was the statement something like "I L I K E B U N D T C A K E A N D I J U S T L O S T T H E G A M E" or similar, with other types of cake? Do we need to find out anything more about the statement? Should we start looking for names that were on the list? Is this news site well-known? Does it have a newspaper equivalent? TV? Radio? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 115 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the order of people listed make the statement coincidentally? No Intentionally? Yes Were the full names of the people given? Yes Was their first name listed first? Yes Last name (like Presley, Elvis)? No The order was the source of anger ... Was the list ranked? Yes As in best to worst, worst to best, richest to poorest, poorest to richest, etc.? Yes Were the angry people at the top of the list? bottom of the list? middle? throughout? Pretty much everyone on the list had reason to be angry. Was the statement something like "I L I K E B U N D T C A K E A N D I J U S T L O S T T H E G A M E" or similar, with other types of cake? Do we need to find out anything more about the statement? No, only relevant thing is that it's made of first letters of their names, fact that you figured out that it's also referring to the game is just a bonus. Should we start looking for names that were on the list? Oh boy that would be hard! :D Of course not. Is this news site well-known? I would say yes, but DOYD of well known. Does it have a newspaper equivalent? Yesish, it's a magazine. TV? Radio? You pretty much got it all, you don't have to go to all these details, but there is one thing I want to let you figure out before I $poil. Hint: The list that contained the statement was result of something. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2010 |
A poll? Something similar? A study? Research? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2900 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had those on the list done something illegal? Was the list describing them as being bad? Doing bad things? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 116 Registered: 4-2010 |
A poll? Yes! Something similar? A study? Research? No to rest Had those on the list done something illegal? No Was the list describing them as being bad? No Doing bad things? No | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 73 Registered: 8-2010 |
It was a poll, yet they intentionally hid a message? Did they scramble the order to make the message? Make insertions/deletions? Were the polled people on the list? Were they angry because the poll was a joke? Were the results of the poll valid? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2920 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the people on the list the people polled? The poll choices? Was it a poll for voting? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 118 Registered: 4-2010 |
It was a poll, yet they intentionally hid a message? If by them you mean authors of the poll then no. Did they scramble the order to make the message? No Make insertions/deletions? No Were the polled people on the list? Yes Were they angry because the poll was a joke? No, FA Were the results of the poll valid? They were recognized as valid by authors of the poll, though they validity is questionable. Were the people on the list the people polled? Yes The poll choices? Yes Was it a poll for voting? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2938 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the poll choices candidates in an election? Did they ask the candidates which candidate they'd vote for? Was the order that the message was hidden in ranked by most votes to fewest? Fewest to most? Something else? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the poll choices candidates in an election? Yes Did they ask the candidates which candidate they'd vote for? No Was the order that the message was hidden in ranked by most votes to fewest? This Fewest to most? Something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2948 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the poll candidates polled? Were other people polled? Was the cake statement coincidental? Relevant how many candidates there were? If so, [LTPF list of integers]? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the poll candidates polled? Yes Were other people polled? No Was the cake statement coincidental? No Relevant how many candidates there were? Not really If so, [LTPF list of integers]? 100, I don't think it will help you though. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2989 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the candidates were both the poll choices and the people polled, right? Were they polled on who they'd vote for? Who they'd like to take office (or whatever it is) if they could not do so? Was the poll question loaded so as to produce the cake statement? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3000 Registered: 4-2010 |
Another "The Game"-related puzzle: Logician's "Let's do it" in the Feb. 2009 archives. | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the candidates were both the poll choices and the people polled, right? Well... maybe I misunderstood the question. They were the poll choices and all the other people could vote for them. Sorry if I misled you. Consider this BLOOPER ALERT. Were they polled on who they'd vote for? Who they'd like to take office (or whatever it is) if they could not do so? Was the poll question loaded so as to produce the cake statement? The rest of questions is based on this FA, sorry for that. I think you can now just try to recap and I will probably post the $poiler... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3038 Registered: 4-2010 |
So a bunch of people were polled on which of 100 candidates they'd vote for. When the poll choices were ordered by most number of votes to fewest, a statement about cake was spelled by the first letters of the candidates' names. Some of the candidates (and other people) were angered by the statement, but one of the candidates who was not angry became unexpectedly famous. This all good? Was the guy who became famous the candidate who got the most votes? Fewest? Somewhere in the middle? | ||
| Viniter (Viniter)
New member Username: Viniter Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2010 |
Sorry for the delay, I didn't have much time lately. So a bunch of people were polled on which of 100 candidates they'd vote for. I probably kind of confused you with this whole poll thing, they simply voted for the candidates in the poll. When the poll choices were ordered by most number of votes to fewest, a statement about cake was spelled by the first letters of the candidates' names. Some of the candidates (and other people) were angered by the statement, Not so much by the statement, as by the results of the poll being affected by the statement. but one of the candidates who was not angry became unexpectedly famous. This all good? Although there were some FA, I think I'm going to spoil the puzzle now. ****************SPOILER***************** When magazine Time organized their annual poll The 2009 Time 100 of the most influential people in the world, they also nominated Christopher Poole, AKA "moot", the founder of the site 4chan.org. It's an imageboard website famous for it's /b/ section, anonymous board with "no rules" policy. It's usually full of internet trolls and nerds, and so when these people found out that moot was nominated for an internet poll, they decided they want him to win. They managed to manipulate the voting system and not only that they made moot number one, they also ordered nominees so the first letters of their names spelled out phrase "marblecake also the game". As you can imagine lot of people were surprised by this result and I suppose that neither people from Time and other enlisted people liked it. Nevertheless it made moot most influential person for year 2009 and thus more famous then he ever expected to be... Interesting thing about the "marblecake also the game" statement is that it also includes reference to The Game, one of many memes that was popularized by 4chan. If you want to find out more about this community gathered around 4chan I recommend watching moot's TED Talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for_anonymity_online.html Thanks to everyone who participated in this puzzle, mostly Balin, Galfisk and Whirligig. It lasted longer than I expected, but at the end you pretty much got it right. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3220 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nice puzzle! I don't know much about moot or 4chan, but that's hilarious. |
