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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A common slogan is never true in its intended sense but is true of many people in another, more literal, sense. I bet it has been true of many people on this forum. What is it?
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Is it an advertising slogan? Are the ads on the LTPF pages relevant?
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Is it an advertising slogan? no Are the ads on the LTPF pages relevant? no
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the slogan relate in any way to : health? money? love? intellect? education? food? alcohol? freedom? hobbies? clothes? tv? films? art? books? politics? children? parents? family? history? animals? sport? writing? the body? proverbs? voting? decisions? work? relaxation? communication? reading? competition? puzzles? status? age? physical appearance? (Please answer each for first meaning, then literal sense)

is the slogan of the typs.. 'people are....'? or 'someone who is X is Y'?

this could be quite a guessing game!
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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does the slogan relate in any way to : health? yesish, nomoney? yesish, no love?yesish, no intellect? yesish, noeducation? yesish,no food? yesish, noalcohol yesish, no? freedom? yes, nohobbies? yesish, noclothes? yesish, no tv? yesish, no films? yesish, no art? yesish, nobooks?yesish, no politics?yes, no children?yesish, yope parents? yesish, nofamily?yesish, yeshistory? no, noanimals?no, no sport? yesish, nowriting? yesish, no the body? yesish, noproverbs? no, no voting?no, no decisions?yesish, no work? yesish, no yesish, relaxation? yesish, nocommunication? yesish, noreading? yesish, no competition? yesish, nopuzzles? no, nostatus? yesish, no age? no, yesphysical appearance? yesish, no(Please answer each for first meaning, then literal sense)

is the slogan of the typs.. 'people are....'? or 'someone who is X is Y'? no

this could be quite a guessing game! I hope so!
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so the intended sense of the slogan:
yes for - freedom, politics,
yesish for - health, money, love, intellect, education, food, alcohol, hobbies, clothes, tv, films, art, books, children, parents, family, sport, writing, the body, decisions, work, relaxation, communication, reading, competition, status, physical appearance,
no for - proverbs, voting, puzzles, age,

literal meaning:
yes for - family, age
yope for - children,
no for the rest

Correct?

Does the slogan include the word freedom? or free?
is it a slogan that promotes a particular political viewpoint? or intends to justify one?
are any of these relevant? - race? prison? the legal system? laws? unwritten laws? human behaviour generally?

all the things that got 'yesishes' for intended meaning - is it relevant that they are all things that might be affected by a lack of freedom? freedom to act as you please?
is freedom form worry about what other people might think of you relevant?

does the slogan use the word 'family'? age? a particular age?

is it a complete sentence? one word? two? three?
is it a question? a statement? of 'fact'? an opinion? a demand? a command? a suggection about what action people should take? a suggestion about what people should think? a comparison? a complaint? sad? happy?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kdoc (Kdoc)
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so the intended sense of the slogan:
yes for - freedom, politics,
yesish for - health, money, love, intellect, education, food, alcohol, hobbies, clothes, tv, films, art, books, children, parents, family, sport, writing, the body, decisions, work, relaxation, communication, reading, competition, status, physical appearance,
no for - proverbs, voting, puzzles, age,

literal meaning:
yes for - family, age
yope for - children,
no for the rest

Correct? Yes, except for the following BLOOOPERRRRRALERTTTTTTTT!!: literal meaning should be 'yes' for children

Does the slogan include the word freedom? or free?
is it a slogan that promotes a particular political viewpoint? yesish or intends to justify one? noish
are any of these relevant? - race? noprison? yes the legal system? see next answer laws? see next answer unwritten laws? yeshuman behaviour generally? yes

all the things that got 'yesishes' for intended meaning - is it relevant that they are all things that might be affected by a lack of freedom? yesfreedom to act as you please?
is freedom form worry about what other people might think of you relevant? yes

does the slogan use the word 'family'? noage? no a particular age? no

is it a complete sentence? yes one word? two? three? five words
is it a question? a statement? a statementof 'fact'? yesish or yope an opinion? noa demand? no a command? no a suggection about what action people should take? noish a suggestion about what people should think?yope a comparison? noa complaint? no sad? no happy? no
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you didn't answer this question:
Does the slogan include the word freedom? or free?

is the slogan nationalistic in some way? does it relate to America? 'american values'?
is it essentially right wing? left wing? is religion relevant? God?

you say it's intended meaning is never true - is this because what it states is actually impossible? does it stae that something 'always' happens? or 'never' happens? does it exagerate?

it's literal maening - relating to family relationships? to the amount of family a person has? to where the family lives? to what the family does? to whether a person has a family or not?
could it be true for someone who has no children? someone who has no siblings? could it be truw for someone who is adopted? someone who has no living family members? someone who is not married?
does it relate to marriage at all? (either the intended or the literal meaning)
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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you didn't answer this question:
Does the slogan include the word freedom? no or free? no

is the slogan nationalistic in some way? noish does it relate to America? no'american values'? no
is it essentially right wing? noish or yope left wing? yesish or yopeis religion relevant? no God? no

you say it's intended meaning is never true - is this because what it states is actually impossible? yesish does it stae that something 'always' happens? noishor 'never' happens? no does it exagerate? yesish

it's literal maening - relating to family relationships? yesto the amount of family a person has? yope to where the family lives? noto what the family does? yesto whether a person has a family or not? see next answer but one
could it be true for someone who has no children? yes someone who has no siblings? nocould it be truw for someone who is adopted? yessomeone who has no living family members? no someone who is not married? yes
does it relate to marriage at all? no(either the intended or the literal meaning) no
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the slogan mention the word 'brother'? 'sister'?
does the intended meaning relate to the use of the term 'brother' to mean someone unrelated with whom one has a strong bond? someone one might care for? look after?

does the literal meaning relate to the relationship between siblings? brothers? sisters? brother-sister?
would it be enough to have one sibling?

so the intended meaning relates to prison? unwritten laws? freedom from those laws? or freedom from caring about those laws?

it's a five word statement? does it relate to caring for each other? being equitable?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kdoc (Kdoc)
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does the slogan mention the word 'brother'? yes. Now it should be easy!! 'sister'? no
does the intended meaning relate to the use of the term 'brother' to mean someone unrelated with whom one has a strong bond? yope someone one might care for?yopelook after? no

does the literal meaning relate to the relationship between siblings? yes brothers? possiblysisters? no brother-sister? possibly
would it be enough to have one sibling? yes

so the intended meaning relates to prison? yope unwritten laws? yes freedom from those laws? no or freedom from caring about those laws? no

it's a five word statement? yesdoes it relate to caring for each other? nobeing equitable? no
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU? yes!!!

******* SPOILER **************
Was your older brother ever your babysitter? Then Big Brother was watching you!! I knew it would be easy, but I'm a big Orwell fan so couldn't resist. (Long-term puzzlers may recall that one of my initial group of three puzzles was also about 1984.)
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Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On second thought, it wasn't one of my initial three, but it was an early one.

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