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Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5770 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 10:37 pm: |      |
America's unpopular Vietnam war had a lasting effect on religion in America. What was it and how come? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3489 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 1:59 am: |      |
Did it help bring Eastern religion into the country? Make it more widespread? If not that, is a specific religion relevant? Religion in general? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3490 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 1:59 am: |      |
Did it help bring Eastern religion into the country? Make it more widespread? If not that, is a specific religion relevant? Religion in general? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1815 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 10:51 am: |      |
Anything to do with the music used in war movies? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5771 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 6:35 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3489 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 1:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did it help bring Eastern religion into the country? Make it more widespread? If not that, is a specific religion relevant? Religion in general? Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3490 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 1:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did it help bring Eastern religion into the country? irrel, but I doubt itMake it more widespread? ditto If not that, is a specific religion relevant? yesish Religion in general? no Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1815 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 10:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything to do with the music used in war movies?no |
Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc
Post Number: 1063 Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 7:28 pm: |      |
Is the draft relevant? did people do something relevant to avoid the draft? something to do with religion? to do with affiliation to a religious group? is conscientious objection relevant? is there a relevant connection between religion and the draft? the effect on religion - to increase participants? decrease? to make more popular? less popular? more donations? fewer donatsions? are ministers of religion relevant? religious buildings? congregations? religious books? churchgoing? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5773 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 7:56 pm: |      |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1063 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 7:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the draft relevant? yes did people do something relevant to avoid the draft? yessomething to do with religion? yes to do with affiliation to a religious group? yes is conscientious objection relevant? nois the a relevant connection between religion and the draft? yes the effect on religion - to increase participants? no decrease? noto make more popular? no less popular? no more donations? no fewer donatsions? are ministers of religion relevant? yes religious buildings? no congregations? noish religious books? nochurchgoing? no |
Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc
Post Number: 1064 Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 8:25 pm: |      |
did people say they were ministers to avoid the draft? or actually become ministers to avoid the draft?relevant religion - christianity? islam? jewish religion? monks relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5774 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 8:51 pm: |      |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1064 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 8:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did people say they were ministers to avoid the draft? see next answer or actually become ministers to avoid the draft? Yes. Seminary students were excused from the draft, which I think is outrageous, especially in a country founded on the separation of church & staterelevant religion - christianity? yes islam? I heard only of Christians & Jews doing this, but Muslims could have too, and maybe some did. Islam was rare in America in those days, or at least kept a low profile jewish religion? yes monks relevant? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3537 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Since it was an increase in the number of ministers, did the number of churches increase? Or did something about the faith itself change? I could see that if there were more people becoming ministers solely to avoid the draft, it would dilute the faith, so to say...relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5776 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 3:46 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3537 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 9:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Since it was an increase in the number of ministers, did the number of churches increase? I don't know, but if so, it's not what I have in mind. (Maybe existing churches came to have more ministers.Or did something about the faith itself change? yesI could see that if there were more people becoming ministers solely to avoid the draft, it would dilute the faith, so to say...relevant? This could happen & maybe it did, but it's not what I read about. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3574 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 4:02 pm: |      |
Is openness relevant? Acceptance? Did an action that was once considered wrong become considered right? Like homosexuality? Are drugs relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5777 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 4:21 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3574 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 4:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is openness relevant? noAcceptance? noish Did an action that was once considered wrong become considered right? not quite but you're ORT Like homosexuality? noish Are drugs relevant? noish |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened
Post Number: 519 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 8:37 pm: |      |
Possible lack of moral conviction in the resulting clergy relevant? Like they failed to set a good moral example? Is the concept that more ordained ministers would mean less need for the work of laymen relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5779 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 8:40 pm: |      |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 519 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 8:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Possible lack of moral conviction in the resulting clergy relevant? no Like they failed to set a good moral example? no Is the concept that more ordained ministers would mean less need for the work of laymen relevant? no |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened
Post Number: 520 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 11:51 pm: |      |
Is there some status or mindset present in those that escaped the draft that contributed to the change? Or is it simply the increased number of ministers that resulted in the change? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5780 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 12:32 am: |      |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 520 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 11:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is there some status or mindset present in those that escaped the draft that contributed to the change? yes Or is it simply the increased number of ministers that resulted in the change? no |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened
Post Number: 522 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 2:25 am: |      |
Any of these mindsets relevant: Anti-war? Liberal? Cowardly? Anti-government or anti-establishment? Dishonest? The thing that changed: A mindset or attitude of the members of the church? Non-religious actions of the church members? Religious practices of the church and/or members? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5781 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 7:25 pm: |      |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 522 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 2:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Any of these mindsets relevant: Anti-war? yes Liberal? yes Cowardly? no Anti-government or anti-establishment? yes Dishonest? no The thing that changed: A mindset or attitude of the members of the church? yope Non-religious actions of the church members? yope Religious practices of the church and/or members?yesish |
It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened
Post Number: 535 Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 4:50 am: |      |
Did they start doing something they hadn't done before? Or stop doing something they were doing prior? Or both? Is it something that might have affected all denominations of Christianity? Is it related to strictness of moral teching? Is it related to preaching? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5783 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:06 pm: |      |
mber Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 535 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 4:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did they start doing something they hadn't done before see next answer Or stop doing something they were doing prior? see next answer Or both? yesish Is it something that might have affected all denominations of Christianity? probably not Is it related to strictness of moral teching?yesish or yope Is it related to preaching? yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3622 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:18 pm: |      |
Were sermons given that were more related to politicals than religion? Was there an increase in these "political sermons"? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5786 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:27 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3622 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Were sermons given that were more related to politicals than religion? yes Was there an increase in these "political sermons"? Yes, but this is just one facet of the cxhange. You're very ORT--just get more general!! |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 3627 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:31 pm: |      |
Did the ministers simply start preaching politics to their congregations? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 5787 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 9:53 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3627 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 7:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did the ministers simply start preaching politics to their congregations? see below I think this is close enough for me to declare a **** SPOILER *************** Every war has people who don't want to fight it for the sensible reason that they are unwilling to risk life & limb. Going to a seminary is a way of avoiding the draft in the US, so many people probably did that in every war (when the US had a draft, which it didn't always & fortunately no longer does). But with the Vietnam war, draft resisters often had a political reason; they opposed the war itself. Such opposition, unlike a general unwillingness to risk life & limb, was much more common in the Left than the Right. So during the Vietnam war, many seminaries filled up with liberals & leftists, which is often given as a reason for a leftward tilt in mainstream Christianity & Judaism in the US after about 1970. Of course, the US has a prominent Religious Right, but mainline denominations like Episcopalians (formerly called "the Republican Party at prayer"), Methodists, Lutherans, & Conservative (!) Jews, have all moved leftward. Please move downward to find a harder puzzle--I hope. |