| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5813 Registered: 8-2001 |
I used to have a passive scrund about American prisons, and most of my friends did, too. What is it? (A scrund is passive if it's something you never really thought about & realize that you took for granted only when you are surprised upon learning that it is false.) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3741 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund about all prisons? Maximum security? Supermax? Juvenile? Inmates relevant? Prison guards? Wardens? Visitors relevant? Visiting hours? Conjugal visits? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2811 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with remission of sentences for good behaviour? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5814 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3741 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 4:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund about all prisons? I'm not sure if it applies to all Maximum security? yes Supermax? unsure Juvenile? probablyInmates relevant? yes Prison guards? yes Wardens? no Visitors relevant? noVisiting hours? no Conjugal visits? no Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2811 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 10:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything to do with remission of sentences for good behaviour? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3760 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the relationship between inmates and prison guards at maximum security prisons relevant? Is it a friendly relationship? Or friendly-ish? And you thought they were constant enemies? Or is it vice versa? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2820 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the amount of time that immates spend in their cells relevant? The amount of exercise they get? Their interactions with fellow prisoners? Prison food (hoping it's similar to your scrund about last meals of condemned men)? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2821 Registered: 1-2007 |
Sorry forgot to add solitary confinement to the list? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5816 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3760 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 10:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the relationship between inmates and prison guards at maximum security prisons relevant? yes Is it a friendly relationship? noish Or friendly-ish? noish And you thought they were constant enemies? irrel Or is it vice versa? Peter365 (Peter365) ditto New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2820 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 5:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the amount of time that immates spend in their cells relevant? noThe amount of exercise they get? no Their interactions with fellow prisoners? yes Prison food (hoping it's similar to your scrund about last meals of condemned men)? no Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2821 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 5:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Sorry forgot to add solitary confinement to the list? irrel | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3807 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant how much time inmates interact with each other? With guards? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5818 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3807 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant how much time inmates interact with each other? yesish With guards? yesish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3857 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a sort of "community time" relevant (by which I mean a time where inmates and guards are all together)? A time when all the inmates are together? Prison fightS? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5821 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3857 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 3:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is a sort of "community time" relevant (by which I mean a time where inmates and guards are all together)? not specifically A time when all the inmates are together? ditto Prison fightS? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3872 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the frequency of prison fights important? Level of violence? Involvement of the inmates? The guards? How the fights are started? Who starts them? Injuries suffered? Weapons used? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5823 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3872 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 9:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the frequency of prison fights important? yes Level of violence? yes Involvement of the inmates? yes The guards? yes How the fights are started?yes Who starts them? noish Injuries suffered? noWeapons used? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3881 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are most fights initiated by inmates? Against other inmates? But you thought they started the fights against the guards? The other way around? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5824 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3881 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 3:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are most fights initiated by inmates?possibly Against other inmates? ditto But you thought they started the fights against the guards? noThe other way around? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2831 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the relationship between the numbers of guards present and that of fights breaking out relevant? i.e. is the risk of fights breaking out directly porportional to the number of guards present? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5825 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 7:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3881 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 3:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are most fights initiated by inmates?possibly Against other inmates? ditto But you thought they started the fights against the guards? noThe other way around? no Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2831 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 8:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the relationship between the numbers of guards present and that of fights breaking out relevant? no i.e. is the risk of fights breaking out directly porportional to the number of guards present? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3918 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are injuries suffered in the fights relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5826 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3918 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 2:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are injuries suffered in the fights relevant? no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1077 Registered: 7-2001 |
is the scrund about the number of fights? the places where they occur? what they are about? how long they last? who stops them? who starts them? weapons used? amount of damage done to the participants? what they say to each other? how much blood is drawn? how many people watch? whether they happen secretly from other prisoners? whether the participants are male or female? does the scrund relate to women's prisons? to differences between women and men? is the scrund that fights are rarer than they actually are? more common? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5829 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1077 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 9:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is the scrund about the number of fights? noish the places where they occur? nowhat they are about? yope how long they last? no who stops them? nowho starts them? yopeweapons used? noamount of damage done to the participants? no what they say to each other? yopehow much blood is drawn? nohow many people watch? no whether they happen secretly from other prisoners? no whether the participants are male or female? no does the scrund relate to women's prisons? no to differences between women and men? no is the scrund that fights are rarer than they actually are? yope more common? yope HINT: Fights are relevant to the scrund, but the scrund is more general than that--it's not just about fights. | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1738 Registered: 6-2001 |
When you said no to "does the scrund relate to women's prisons" do you mean it doesn't apply in women's prisons? Or it doesn't relate to them directly? Does the scrund apply to some condition necessary for fights to take place? Is the number of people involved in the fights relevant? The idea that fights generally escalate more/less quickly than you expected? Would the scrund apply to a boxing match which took place within the prison gym? Could it apply to any individual fight? Or is it more about the nature of fights in general? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5835 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1738 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 12:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) When you said no to "does the scrund relate to women's prisons" do you mean it doesn't apply in women's prisons? Or it doesn't relate to them directly? I mean that gender is irrel. Does the scrund apply to some condition necessary for fights to take place? yopeIs the number of people involved in the fights relevant?yope The idea that fights generally escalate more/less quickly than you expected? no Would the scrund apply to a boxing match which took place within the prison gym? no Could it apply to any individual fight? seed next answer Or is it more about the nature of fights in general? yes, but remember, it's not JUST about fights | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4265 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the cause of fights relevant? Are prison riots relevant as well? The cause of those? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5838 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4265 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 7:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the cause of fights relevant? yesAre prison riots relevant as well? yesThe cause of those? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4271 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund that most fights are caused by prisoners against prisoners? Against guards? Ditto with riots (against prisoners? against guards?) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5839 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4271 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 10:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund that most fights are caused by prisoners against prisoners? Against guards? Ditto with riots (against prisoners? against guards?) no to all | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3606 Registered: 5-2003 |
If the scrund is about the cause -- is it about the purpose of the fight/riot/protest? For example, that riots are over poor treatment? Or due to overcrowding? Or serve to cover up other nefarious activities, such as escape? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5841 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3606 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 6:26 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If the scrund is about the cause -- is it about the purpose of the fight/riot/protest? noish For example, that riots are over poor treatment? noOr due to overcrowding? no Or serve to cover up other nefarious activities, such as escape? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4374 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it about how many prisoners are involved in a fight? In fights in general? How many guards are involved? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5844 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4374 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about how many prisoners are involved in a fight? noIn fights in general? That's PART of itHow many guards are involved? noish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4425 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the size of the fight relevant? How violent it is? Deaths in fights relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5845 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4425 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 8:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the size of the fight relevant? yope How violent it is? yopeDeaths in fights relevant? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4443 Registered: 4-2010 |
Guard deaths in fights relevant? Prisoner deaths? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5846 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4443 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 9:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Guard deaths in fights relevant? not specificallyPrisoner deaths? ditto | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5848 Registered: 8-2001 |
Some background questions that are often asked would be useful here. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 226 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, was it your scrund about violence-related events that happen in prisons (such as fights, riots, and the like)? The prisons -- "real" prisons, i.e. where people are detained after being subjected to a criminal trial and get convincted? Time relevant? Country relevant? Nazi Germany? Soviet gulag? The inmates -- war prisoners? If time and/or country relevant, please [LTPF list of centuries] and [LTPF list of continents]. Wild guess -- jailbreaking relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5853 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 226 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 11:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So, was it your scrund about violence-related events that happen in prisons (such as fights, riots, and the like)? The prisons -- "real" prisons, i.e. where people are detained after being subjected to a criminal trial and get convincted? Time relevant? yes Country relevant? yesNazi Germany? noSoviet gulag? no The inmates -- war prisoners? noIf time and/or country relevant, please [LTPF list of centuries] and [LTPF list of continents]. Contemporary USA, probably in a maximum or medium security prison Wild guess -- jailbreaking relevant? no | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 233 Registered: 9-2009 |
Since USA contemporary prisons lie beyond my expertise, let's try it the hard way: Was you scrund about: people fighting? people fighting in prison? number of inmates fighting? number of guards resisting? number of 'victories' from the part of inmates? from the part of guards? I know that might sound silly, but is the fighting essential to puzzle or is it only a collateral? And in reality we should redirect our attention elsewhere? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5857 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 233 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 10:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Since USA contemporary prisons lie beyond my expertise, They're beyond mine, too. You can figure out what you need to know. let's try it the hard way: Was you scrund about: people fighting? people fighting in prison? number of inmates fighting? number of guards resisting? number of 'victories' from the part of inmates? from the part of guards? I know that might sound silly, but is the fighting essential to puzzle or is it only a collateral? As I mentioned., fights are only an EXAMPLE of the point at issue. And in reality we should redirect our attention elsewhere? yes--at something more general!! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 234 Registered: 9-2009 |
Hmmm... more general... conflicts in general? Does it relate to one of the following: food? clothing? A daemon says none of the above, so ... is religion -- in its broadest sense -- involved here? Or is it just an administrative fact that we should discover? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5859 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 234 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 11:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Hmmm... more general... conflicts in general? yesishDoes it relate to one of the following: food? no more than any other matterclothing{ditto} A daemon says none of the above, so ... is religion -- in its broadest sense -- involved here? ditto Or is it just an administrative fact that we should discover? noish, but the administration is relevant | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 237 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the scrund about: how conflicts arise in a prison? How they are handled by the jail administration? How they are later documented? Criminal law involved? (something like the inmates creating conflict can be sentenced for their acts)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5861 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 237 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 7:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the scrund about: how conflicts arise in a prison? yesish How they are handled by the jail administration? yopeHow they are later documented? no Criminal law involved? no(something like the inmates creating conflict can be sentenced for their acts)? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5872 Registered: 8-2001 |
RECAP + HINT: The scrund is about hostile relations between prisoners & guards and also among prisoners. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5112 Registered: 4-2010 |
Prison gangs relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5876 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5112 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Prison gangs relevant?The scrund applies to conflict among prisoners, so gangs would be a major part. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5120 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund simply about how much conflict there is between prisoners and guards? Between prisoners? Did you think there was more than there actually is? Less? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5880 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5120 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund simply about how much conflict there is between prisoners and guards? no, but you're ORT Between prisoners? ditto Did you think there was more than there actually is? yope Less? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5138 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund about the number of riots? The frequency of riots? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5882 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5138 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 2:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund about the number of riots? no The frequency of riots? noish | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3248 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it about the: reasons for conflict? Size of conflicts? Duration of conflicts? Handling of conflicts? Participants in conflicts? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5889 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3248 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 9:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about the: reasons for conflict? yes Size of conflicts? yope Duration of conflicts? no Handling of conflicts? noish Participants in conflicts? yes | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5892 Registered: 8-2001 |
There's a background question that puzzle-solvers often ask & that would be useful here. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5708 Registered: 4-2010 |
Prisoners: HAM? Guards: HAM? (Trying...) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5895 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5708 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Prisoners: HAM? yes Guards: HAM? yes (Trying...) Try less general characteristics! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5816 Registered: 4-2010 |
Height relevant? Weight? Family? Upbringing? Religion? Politics? Are we looking for physical characteristics? Tattoos relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5898 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5816 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 7:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Height relevant? no Weight? noFamily? noish Upbringing? no Religion? noPolitics? noish Are we looking for physical characteristics? yesTattoos relevant? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5858 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hair color? Muscular-ness? Eye color? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5901 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5858 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 9:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Hair color? yope or noish Muscular-ness? no Eye color? yope or noish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5885 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are we looking for facial features? Facial expressions? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1844 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is race relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5905 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5885 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 1:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are we looking for facial features? no Facial expressions? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1844 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 4:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is race relevant? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6119 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund that most prison fights involve black prisoners? But that's not the case? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5909 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6119 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 9:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund that most prison fights involve black prisoners? noBut that's not the case? irrel | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6129 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund that black prisoners tend to fight against white prisoners? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5910 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6129 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 11:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund that black prisoners tend to fight against white prisoners? You're ORT: HINT: The scrund is about the conditions under which racial animosity is likely to occur in prison. Remember: Guards are relevant!! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6225 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the race of the guards relevant? Just the prisoners? Is the scrund about racial animosity between prisoners only? Between prisoners and guards? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5913 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6225 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 7:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the race of the guards relevant? noJust the prisoners? yesIs the scrund about racial animosity between prisoners only? yes Between prisoners and guards? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6241 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any other minorities relevant? That prison gangs are made up of members of only one race? And they're actually mixed? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5920 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6241 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 7:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are any other minorities relevant? The study I read didn't mention others, but I bet the scrund also applies in cases involving Latinos That prison gangs are made up of members of only one race? no And they're actually mixed?I don't know | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Is it that white prisoners will "oppress" black ones? The other way round? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5923 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6270 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 8:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it that white prisoners will "oppress" black ones? The other way round? noish to both | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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I know we're really close, but I can't quite put my finger on it.... Could you please recap? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5926 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6285 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 11:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I know we're really close Yes, you are!!, but I can't quite put my finger on it.... Could you please recap? Add the following to the puzzle description: The scrund involves racial relations between black & white prisoners & relations between prisoners & guards. Conflict is relevant, which may include violence. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Is it that the guards will take the side of the black prisoners in fights? The white prisoners? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5928 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6291 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 1:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it that the guards will take the side of the black prisoners in fights? no The white prisoners? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Is the scrund that black prisoners are more violent than white prisoners? The other way round? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
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is the scrund that race relations are poor in prison? poorer than outside? or better than outside? is the truth that race relations are better inside because the prisoners have a common 'enemy', the guards? and this is more powerful than their enmity to each other? or is this the scrund? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5933 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6419 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the scrund that black prisoners are more violent than white prisoners? noThe other way round? no Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1080 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 10:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is the scrund that race relations are poor in prison? no poorer than outside? no or better than outside? no is the truth that race relations are better inside because the prisoners have a common 'enemy', the guards? Noish, but you're VERY, VERY ORTand this is more powerful than their enmity to each other?VERY, VERY ORT or is this the scrund? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
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Do the prisoners spend more time fighting with the guards than with each other? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5935 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1897 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 2:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do the prisoners spend more time fighting with the guards than with each other? Possibly--& this sort of issue is relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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About which race of prisoners would be more likely to fight with other prisoners? With guards? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5940 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6526 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 10:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) About which race of prisoners would be more likely to fight with other prisoners? no With guards? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Is the race of the guards relevant? Maybe that black prisoners would rather fight with white guards than white prisoners? Other way around? With races switched? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
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Maybe you thought guards spent all their time breaking up fights between groups of prisoners? But in reality they also fight with the prisoners? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5942 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6532 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 10:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the race of the guards relevant? Maybe that black prisoners would rather fight with white guards than white prisoners? Other way around? With races switched? no to all Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1914 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 1:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Maybe you thought guards spent all their time breaking up fights between groups of prisoners? no But in reality they also fight with the prisoners? possibly & this is relevant but not the scrund | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5943 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6532 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 10:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the race of the guards relevant? Maybe that black prisoners would rather fight with white guards than white prisoners? Other way around? With races switched? no to all Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1914 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 1:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Maybe you thought guards spent all their time breaking up fights between groups of prisoners? no But in reality they also fight with the prisoners? possibly & this is relevant but not the scrund | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Relevant who starts the fight? Who breaks it up? Deaths in the fight? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5947 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6653 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 10:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant who starts the fight? Who breaks it up? Deaths in the fight? no to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Frequency of fights relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5950 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6674 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 11:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Frequency of fights relevant? yesish or yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Frequency of guard intervention in fights relevant? In fights between black prisoners? White prisoners? Is the scrund that the guards would be more likely to intervene in fights involving white prisoners? Would be more likely to take the side of the white prisoners? The other way round (races switched)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5953 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6688 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 3:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Frequency of guard intervention in fights relevant? noishIn fights between black prisoners? ditto White prisoners? ditto Is the scrund that the guards would be more likely to intervene in fights involving white prisoners? noWould be more likely to take the side of the white prisoners? no The other way round (races switched)? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Relevant how violent the fights become before the guards will intervene? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5954 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6734 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 10:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant how violent the fights become before the guards will intervene? noish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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That one race of prisoners is more violent in fights than another? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5957 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6967 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 8:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That one race of prisoners is more violent in fights than another?no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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That one race mainly fights other prisoners, and another race mainly fights guards? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5962 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7003 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 10:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That one race mainly fights other prisoners, and another race mainly fights guards? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Guards taking sides in fights relevant? Race of guards relevant? Can you post a recap? Punishment for fighting relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3567 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 1:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Guards taking sides in fights relevant? no Race of guards relevant? noCan you post a recap? no Punishment for fighting relevant? no. RECAP: Add the following to the puzzle statement. The scrund involves interracial hostility between prisoners as well as hostility between prisoners & guards. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Is interracial hostility between prisoners and guards relevant? Is the scrund about whom a certain race of prisoners find to be more of an enemy? The guards? Another race of prisoners? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Did you think the persons are more likely to fight their own kind? Or the other way around? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5984 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7383 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is interracial hostility between prisoners and guards relevant? Hostility berween prisoners & guards is relevant independent of race Is the scrund about whom a certain race of prisoners find to be more of an enemy? yesish The guards? possiblyAnother race of prisoners? possibly Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 826 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 7:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you think the persons are more likely to fight their own kind? noOr the other way around? no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
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if one believed the scrund would it seem that relationships within the prison were better than they actually were? worse? does the scrund assume that the guards behave more morally than they actually do? more sensibly? more fairly? - less - for any of these? if you were a prisoner would you want the scrund to be true? false? would it depend upon your race? if you were a guard would you want the scrund to be true? false? would it depend upon your race? if you were the prison governor would you want the scrund to be true? false? does the scrund assume people behave worse than they actually do? better? does it assume things are safer in prison than they actually are? less safe? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5986 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1083 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 8:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) if one believed the scrund would it seem that relationships within the prison were better than they actually were? under some circumstances worse? ditto does the scrund assume that the guards behave more morally than they actually do? no more sensibly? no more fairly? no - less - for any of these? no if you were a prisoner would you want the scrund to be true? under some circumstancesfalse? ditto would it depend upon your race? no if you were a guard would you want the scrund to be true? under some circumstancesfalse? ditto would it depend upon your race? no if you were the prison governor would you want the scrund to be true?probably not false? probably does the scrund assume people behave worse than they actually do? under some circumstances better? ditto does it assume things are safer in prison than they actually are? under some circumstances less safe? ditto | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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RECAP: The scrund involves interracial hostility among inmates, HINT: Under what type prison conditions are such hostilities most severe? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Under maximum security? Because the more violent offenders are there? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Is segregation of prisioners according to race relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7826 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 8:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Under maximum security? irrelish Because the more violent offenders are there?irrel Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3041 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 10:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is segregation of prisioners according to race relevant? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Under conditions where the prisoners are less closely guarded? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6003 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8004 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Under conditions where the prisoners are less closely guarded? noish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Under conditions where guards are hostile to prisoners? Or don't have a relaxed, casual relationship with them? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6010 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8010 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 9:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Under conditions where guards are hostile to prisoners? no Or don't have a relaxed, casual relationship with them? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Supermax prisons relevant? Where the rooms are entirely white? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8030 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 10:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Supermax prisons relevant? not especially Where the rooms are entirely white? irrel | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Under conditions where prisoners of different races are segregated? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
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the relevant type of prison conditions - related to: total number of prisoners? ratio guards to prisoners? ratio of black to white prisoners? physical size of prison? number of prisoners per cell? availabilyt of outside space? number of hours spent in cell by prisoners? access to recreational facilities? level of security of prison? average length of sentence of prisoners? where the prison is geographically in the country? whether the prisoners get lots of visitors? level of overcrowding? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6015 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8098 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 9:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Under conditions where prisoners of different races are segregated? no Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1085 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 6:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) the relevant type of prison conditions - related to: total number of prisoners? no ratio guards to prisoners? no ratio of black to white prisoners? nophysical size of prison? nonumber of prisoners per cell? no availabilyt of outside space?possibly number of hours spent in cell by prisoners? no access to recreational facilities? possiblylevel of security of prison? possibly average length of sentence of prisoners? nowhere the prison is geographically in the country? no whether the prisoners get lots of visitors? unlikely level of overcrowding? possibly | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
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are any of these relevant: whether the prison is privately run or not? whether it is in the city or the countryside? whether there is accommodation provided for staff? the structure of the building? which gender of prisoners it takes? whether the guards are the same gender as the prisoners? the degree to which the races are mixed? the number of different races? the use of solitary confinemtn? religious facilities? does the scrund relate to current prisons? to those in times gone past? to a difference between now and the past? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Kdoc Post Number: 1090 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 10:56 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- are any of these relevant: whether the prison is privately run or not? nowhether it is in the city or the countryside? nowhether there is accommodation provided for staff? nothe structure of the building? nowhich gender of prisoners it takes? no whether the guards are the same gender as the prisoners? no the degree to which the races are mixed?possibly the number of different races? the use of solitary confinemtn?ossibly religious facilities? no does the scrund relate to current prisons? yesto those in times gone past? probably but it's based on a recent soviological studyto a difference between now and the past? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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RECAP & HINT: Add the following to the puzzle statement: The scrund concerns interracial (black/white) hostility between prisoners and also treatment of prisoners by guards. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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That guards treat white prisoners better than black prisoners? Vice versa? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6040 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8710 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 2:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That guards treat white prisoners better than black prisoners? noVice versa? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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RECAP & HINT: The scrund involves the relation between the degree of hostility between black prisoners & white prisoners, on one hand, & a certain factor about how the prison is run, on the other hand. Find the other factor. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
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Does it have to do with how strict the guards are? How proactive they are about preventing fights? How fast they react to breaking up fights? How well they enforce the rules? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6065 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2072 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does it have to do with how strict the guards are? yesish How proactive they are about preventing fights? noishHow fast they react to breaking up fights? noish How well they enforce the rules? yesish or yope. Some of these questions arfe ORT, but there's something even more relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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How well black and/or white inmates are treated? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8904 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) How well black and/or white inmates are treated? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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That white inmates are treated better than black inmates? Vice versa? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6071 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8976 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 1:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That white inmates are treated better than black inmates? noVice versa? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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That they are treated the same? Are they actually treated the same? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9039 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 8:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That they are treated the same?no Are they actually treated the same? irrel | ||
| Noel (Noel)
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If they treat the inmates well, are there more fights than if they treat the inmates poorly? Fewer fights? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6077 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2088 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 2:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If they treat the inmates well, are there more fights than if they treat the inmates poorly?That's what's true. Fewer fights?That was my the passive scrund. ********** SPOILER **************** At last!! Wouldn't you think that brutal prisons would have more interracial hostility among prisoners than relatively decent prisons? According to sociologist Leo Carroll, the opposite is true, since in brutal prisons, prisoners of different races are apt to unite against the brutal guards rather than fight against one another. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone, & for solving it, Noel. You all know where my new puzzle is. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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"At last" is certainly correct - this lasted quite a long time! I had this scrund as well, but the truth makes much more sense when I think about it. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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That's what makes it an interesting scrund! |
