| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4888 Registered: 4-2010 |
If Irwin hadn't procrastinated, Jessica would be dead, and Kristoph would be alive. Irwin: HAM Jessica: HAF Kristoph: HAM And this is FMOI | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 67 Registered: 9-2010 |
Quarters (as in American money) involved? (Just throwing this out there) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2492 Registered: 1-2001 |
So can we say that since Irwin DID procrastinate, Jessica is alive? Kristoph is dead? Just trying to clarify, you can never assume... If Irwin HAD procrastinated, would Kristoph be alive? Would Jessica be dead? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4894 Registered: 4-2010 |
Quarters (as in American money) involved? (Just throwing this out there) No So can we say that since Irwin DID procrastinate, Jessica is alive? Kristoph is dead? Just trying to clarify, you can never assume... Correct If Irwin HAD procrastinated, would Kristoph be alive? Would Jessica be dead? Well, he did procrastinate, and because of that, Kristoph is dead, and Jessica is alive. So, no to both. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2494 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was it an either/or? Was it inevitable that either Kristoph or Jessica was going to die? Did Irwin directly save Jessica's life? Did he directly cause Kristoph's death? If so, by murder? Negligence? Accident? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4898 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it an either/or? Yesish Was it inevitable that either Kristoph or Jessica was going to die? Yesish Did Irwin directly save Jessica's life? Yes! Did he directly cause Kristoph's death? And yes again! If so, by murder? Yope - I don't think this would be considered murder, but he did directly and intentionally kill Kristoph. Negligence? Accident? Neither | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2496 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Irwin procrastinate because he was trying to decide which person to save, either Kristoph or Jessica? Did he realize he had the power to save Jessica? Did he realize that he could cause Kristoph's death? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4901 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Irwin procrastinate because he was trying to decide which person to save, either Kristoph or Jessica? No Did he realize he had the power to save Jessica? Yes Did he realize that he could cause Kristoph's death? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4902 Registered: 4-2010 |
BLOOPER: The two Yesish-es should be Yopes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4903 Registered: 4-2010 |
And another BLOOPER: The answer to the first question in the last post should be No, FA | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 302 Registered: 8-2010 |
So Irwin didn't cause Kristoph's death? But he realized that Kristoph would die? Are any of these people related? I and J? K and J? K and I? If so, parent/child? Spouses? Boyfriend/girlfriend? Past spouses? Stepchild? Uncle/aunt and nephew/niece? Siblings? If Irwin didn't cause Kristoph's death, did Jessica? Are any other people relevant? Did Irwin procrastinate because he knew it would save Jessica? Kill Kristoph? Was Irwin going to kill Jessica? Was Kristoph? How many deaths that occurred were suicides? Murders? Accidents? Ditto if Irwin had not procrastinated. Was the thing Irwin put off directly related to the death of one of the three? Or was it something else? For instance, was he going to do the laundry, but he saw Jessica being strangled, so he put off the laundry and saved Jessica? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4910 Registered: 4-2010 |
So Irwin didn't cause Kristoph's death? No - he did. But he realized that Kristoph would die? See previous Are any of these people related? I and J? K and J? K and I? None of them If so, parent/child? Spouses? Boyfriend/girlfriend? Past spouses? Stepchild? Uncle/aunt and nephew/niece? Siblings? If Irwin didn't cause Kristoph's death, did Jessica? See above - no Are any other people relevant? No Did Irwin procrastinate because he knew it would save Jessica? Kill Kristoph? Neither, FA Was Irwin going to kill Jessica? No Was Kristoph? YES. Excellent q! How many deaths that occurred were suicides? Murders? Well, Kristoph's death was -ish a murder; I think it would be considered justifiable homicide. Accidents? Ditto if Irwin had not procrastinated. If Irwin had not procrastinated, Jessica would have been murdered. Was the thing Irwin put off directly related to the death of one of the three? Noish to Yope Or was it something else? For instance, was he going to do the laundry, but he saw Jessica being strangled, so he put off the laundry and saved Jessica? Noish | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 303 Registered: 8-2010 |
So Irwin killed Kristoph to prevent him from killing Jessica? Is any kind of love relevant here? Would Kristoph have killed Irwin? Besides the I/J/K progression, is there any reason why they have those names? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4916 Registered: 4-2010 |
So Irwin killed Kristoph to prevent him from killing Jessica? Yes Is any kind of love relevant here? Yes, and a BLOOPER: Jessica and Kristoph used to be BF/GF (before the events of the story). Would Kristoph have killed Irwin? No Besides the I/J/K progression, is there any reason why they have those names? No, and I didn't even notice the I/J/K possession. Kristoph is named after Kristoph Gavin in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney solely because he's the bad guy, but the other two are names I just picked randomely. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4917 Registered: 4-2010 |
And of course "possession" should read "progression" in that last sentence. Good think I'm not taking any English classes this semester. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2501 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was a vehicle involved in Kristoph's death? Did Irwin somehow intervene between K and J? Were K and J arguing at any time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4937 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was a vehicle involved in Kristoph's death? No Did Irwin somehow intervene between K and J? Yesish Were K and J arguing at any time? Yesish to Yope | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2504 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is there a 4th person involved in any way? If Jessica had died, would it have been from the same cause as what led to Kristoph's death? Did Kristoph's death occur indoors? Or outdoors? In a public place? Which of these best describes the situation prior to K's death - J and K were alone, then I joined them J and I were alone, then K joined them K and I were along, then J joined them All 3 met up in the same place at the same time J and K had once dated, or been BF/GF...did I know about this relationship? Did J and K's relationship end badly? Were I and J dating, or in a relationship when I saved J's life? Possible situation - J and K have broken up, K is sour and jealous, K and I start dating, J and I are together somewhere and K shows up and attempts to kill J in a rage of jealousy - any of this accurate? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4940 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a 4th person involved in any way? No If Jessica had died, would it have been from the same cause as what led to Kristoph's death? No Did Kristoph's death occur indoors? Or outdoors? This In a public place? This too Which of these best describes the situation prior to K's death - J and K were alone, then I joined them This, tiny ish J and I were alone, then K joined them K and I were along, then J joined them All 3 met up in the same place at the same time J and K had once dated, or been BF/GF...did I know about this relationship? No, and neither did Irwin. (Bad pun) Did J and K's relationship end badly? Yes Were I and J dating, or in a relationship when I saved J's life? No Possible situation - J and K have broken up, Correct K is sour and jealous, Correct K and I start dating, I assume you mean J and I, but in any case, this part is wrong J and I are together somewhere Wrong, but... and K shows up and attempts to kill J in a rage of jealousy ...this is correct. - any of this accurate? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2509 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was K holding a weapon at any time? Threatening to use his hands in a violent way? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4949 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was K holding a weapon at any time? Yes Threatening to use his hands in a violent way? In that they were holding the weapon, yes. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2510 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the weapon a knife? Gun? Lead pipe? Something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4952 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the weapon a knife? This Gun? Lead pipe? Something else? So none of these (but you did make me laugh with the lead pipe =) ) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2513 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did K approach J with the knife in view? Or did he approach her and then show the knife? Did he verbally threaten J, or announce his intent to kill her? Did J say something that cause K to re-think his decision to kill her? And was Irwin present during this? Was Irwin just a bystander who performed a "Good Samaritan" act? Or...did Irwin not do anything at all, and just simply watch as K died instead of J? Did Irwin ever perform any significant action? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4955 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did K approach J with the knife in view? No, but... Or did he approach her and then show the knife? ...yes. Did he verbally threaten J, or announce his intent to kill her? Both Did J say something that cause K to re-think his decision to kill her? No And was Irwin present during this? Yes Was Irwin just a bystander who performed a "Good Samaritan" act? Yes Or...did Irwin not do anything at all, and just simply watch as K died instead of J? No Did Irwin ever perform any significant action? Yes. Remember, he physically killed Kristoph. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2516 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did J make any attempt to defend herself? Did Irwin wait to see if J would defend herself? Did Irwin wait to see if someone else would lend aid? Did K die as a result of being stabbed? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4971 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did J make any attempt to defend herself? No... Did Irwin wait to see if J would defend herself? No... Did Irwin wait to see if someone else would lend aid? No... Did K die as a result of being stabbed? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2519 Registered: 1-2001 |
So, does Irwin see K approach J? Is he aware that K intends to harm her? When K threatens J, does he know that Irwin is present? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4982 Registered: 4-2010 |
So, does Irwin see K approach J? Yes Is he aware that K intends to harm her? Not at first, but it soon becomes obvious. When K threatens J, does he know that Irwin is present? No | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 648 Registered: 5-2010 |
So they're in a public place? Is K trying to hide the knife? Does K actually end up attacking J with the knife? Or is he prevented from doing so by I? Does I kill K with a weapon? With K's kkinfe? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5033 Registered: 4-2010 |
So they're in a public place? Yes, but... Is K trying to hide the knife? No Does K actually end up attacking J with the knife? Yope Or is he prevented from doing so by I? Yes Does I kill K with a weapon? Well, an improvised weapon, but yes. With K's kkinfe? No | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 651 Registered: 5-2010 |
Are they indoors? Outdoors? J and K thought they were alone? Was it night? Day? If I had not procrastinated, he would have not been there at that place and time to witness the attack? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5037 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they indoors? Outdoors? This J and K thought they were alone? Kristoph certainly did. Was it night? This - excellent q! Day? If I had not procrastinated, he would have not been there at that place and time to witness the attack? And to prevent it, yes. | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 652 Registered: 5-2010 |
If I had not procrastinated, he would have been at that place at an earlier time of day? Was he going somewhere? Were J and K on a street or alley? In a park or yard? Outside a place of business? In an apartment complex or campus? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5040 Registered: 4-2010 |
If I had not procrastinated, he would have been at that place at an earlier time of day? Yes Was he going somewhere? Yes Were J and K on a street or alley? Yes, a street... In a park or yard? Outside a place of business? In an apartment complex or campus? ...here! They were on a college campus. | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 653 Registered: 5-2010 |
Ok, so... J and K are on a street somewhere on a college campus. K is upset at J because they broke up and whatever other drama might be associated with that. I is on his way somewhere late because he procrastinated. He sees K threatening J with a knife. So he does something to kill K. All correct? Is I on his way to turn in some homework late, or at the last minute? Did he hit K with his car? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5045 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok, so... J and K are on a street somewhere on a college campus. Yes K is upset at J because they broke up and whatever other drama might be associated with that. Yes I is on his way somewhere late because he procrastinated. Yes He sees K threatening J with a knife. So he does something to kill K. Yes All correct? Yes Is I on his way to turn in some homework late, or at the last minute? No, but OTRT Did he hit K Yes with his car? No | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 655 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is I driving when he sees K? Is he walking? Is his late task related to a school assignment? Does he hit K with a backpack full of schoolbooks (those can be enormously heavy)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5049 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is I driving when he sees K? No Is he walking? Yes Is his late task related to a school assignment? Yesish Does he hit K with a backpack full of schoolbooks (those can be enormously heavy)? Just one book, but yes, a heavy one. And that's enough for the **********SPOILER********** Irwin is a college student with a bit of a lazy side. One night, he procrastinates studying for a test, so he takes his textbook for that class (as I imagine it, it was a Latin textbook, which is my heaviest at the moment) and goes to the library to study. After studying, Irwin is returning to his dorm, walking down an empty street, when he notices Kristoph forcing Jessica against a wall and holding a knife to her throat. (Jessica had broken up with Kristoph a short while before this, and Kristoph was extremely jealous and angry.) With no other option, Irwin hits Kristoph over the head with his textbook and kills him, saving Jessica's life. If Irwin had not procrastinated, he would have been in his dorm that night, and no one would have been around, sealing Jessica's fate. Nice job, ISH, Ixoye, and everyone else. | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 656 Registered: 5-2010 |
Haha, are you trying to justify yourself here? ;) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5075 Registered: 4-2010 |
Funny... =) Actually, this was inspired by an instance of my procrastination - I'd put off my Latin studying, so I brought my book to a coffee shop where one of the school's a cappella groups was about to perform, and studied before the show. As I was walking back, I thought, "What if..." and imagined the rest of the scenario. Fortunately, I aced the Latin quiz =) *DISCLAIMER: Side effects of procrastination may include sleeplessness, excessive stress, drowsiness, a drop in academic grades, and epic failure. Procrastination is not recommended for anyone over 21, under 21, or exactly 21. Before procrastinating, be sure to consult with someone with more sense than you do, which is pretty much everybody. Procrastination: when you're just too lazy to....eh, I can finish this later.* | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2530 Registered: 1-2001 |
Good puzzle! I guess if it was in fact a Latin Book that he used, Irwin could proclaim "Veni vidi vici"! |
