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A competition ensued in the stadium. Luckily, we can still enjoy it
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Stadium: for sports? Is the specific competition what the stadium was intended for? Is the competition a sport? We: the participants? The audience?
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Is the puzzle title relevant?

If so, a particular type of bread? Wheat? White? Rye? Brown bread? Bread with fruit in it? Nuts? Cinnamon? Frosted bread? (I love frosted raisin bread)

Some other breadlike good? Cake? Muffins? Donuts? "Let them eat cake" relevant?
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Stadium: for sports? Yesish Is the specific competition what the stadium was intended for? Unsure. Could you please rephrase? Is the competition a sport? Yope We: the participants? The audience? Neither
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Is the puzzle title relevant? Yes, but somewhat cryptic

If so, a particular type of bread? Wheat? White? Rye? Brown bread? Bread with fruit in it? Nuts? Cinnamon? Frosted bread? (I love frosted raisin bread) Simply bread. I would like to taste the latter, but in this part of the world bread is ... simply ordinary bread

Some other breadlike good? Cake? Muffins? Donuts? "Let them eat cake" relevant? No to all. Like I said, what I meant is just bread
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We = LTPF members?

Rephrasing: Was the purpose of the stadium to host competitions like the one that took place?
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(Well, even ordinary bread has to be made out of something...the kind of flour it has in it would determine if it is, say, wheat bread, white bread (bleached wheat flour), rye bread, etc.)

Bread eating contest? (Grasping at straws here)
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We = LTPF members? No

Rephrasing: Was the purpose of the stadium to host competitions like the one that took place? No and a FA
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Does the stadium normally host competitions?
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Does the stadium normally host competitions? Used to
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Is the stadium closed down? Is it no longer in use? "It" - the competition? The stadium?
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Is the stadium closed down? Yesish to yope Is it no longer in use? ditto "It" - the competition? Yes The stadium? No
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Is the competition a physical activity? Mental? Is it an individual activity? A team activity?
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Is the competition a physical activity? Yope Mental? Yope Is it an individual activity? Assume yes A team activity?
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Chess? Chessboxing?
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I've missed this somehow, yesterday. I apologize

(Well, even ordinary bread has to be made out of something...the kind of flour it has in it would determine if it is, say, wheat bread, white bread (bleached wheat flour), rye bread, etc.) True, just not relevant

Bread eating contest? (Grasping at straws here) No, and starting from the title is the hardest way to arrive at the solution
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Chess? Chessboxing? Neither, but I learned a new word (the latter)
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Is the competition done between two people? A small group? Large group? A set number?
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Is the competition done between two people? This one. No to the rest A small group? Large group? A set number?
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Scrabble? Crosswords? Arm wrestling?
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Scrabble? Crosswords? Arm wrestling? None of those
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Can the competition be considered a sport? Does it take place on a field? In a ring? At a table? When participating, are people standing up? Sitting down? Running around? Do they make contact with the other person? Hitting the other person? Kicking? Tackling? Is it a shin-kicking competition?
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Can the competition be considered a sport? No! Good question Does it take place on a field? In a ring? At a table? When participating, are people standing up? Sitting down? Running around? Do they make contact with the other person? Hitting the other person? Kicking? Tackling? Is it a shin-kicking competition? No or irrelevant to the rest. It was a one-time event, not something done regularly
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Is it a debate? Political?
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Is it a debate? Nope, but might mislead Political? Definitely not this
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Is it an argument of some sort? Does the competition usually have an audience?
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Is it an argument of some sort? Does the competition usually have an audience? No to all. The 'competition' is more metaphorical in nature
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Hmmm...is the "competition" involving technology?
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Hmmm...is the "competition" involving technology? No. Some ground work is needed here
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Is the competition a game? A war?
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Is the competition a game? A war? No to both
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Were the two competitors H? A? M?
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Were the two competitors H? A? M? Yes to all
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Were any other people involved in the "competition"? Any animals? Plants? Other objects? Could this be considered a contest? A duel?
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Were any other people involved in the "competition"? Not in a relevant way Any animals? Plants? Other objects? Than what? But objects were certainly involved, for svv of 'objects' Could this be considered a contest? Yope A duel? Certainly not

Good round of questions
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Objects: physical, tangible objects?
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Objects: physical, tangible objects? Very much so
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Are there different objects involved? Or more than one of the same object?
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Are there different objects involved? This Or more than one of the same object? So no
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Are the objects used in conjuction with each other? Is cooking relevant?
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Are the objects used in conjuction with each other? Yes, if I understand correctly Is cooking relevant? Not at all
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Are the objects made of [LTPF list of materials]?
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Are the objects made of [LTPF list of materials]? Hard to answer... Think along marble, brick...
Also, enquiring about the stadium might be of help
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Are the objects part of the stadium? Is one of the objects the stadium itself?
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Are the objects part of the stadium? Noish to yope, getting closer here Is one of the objects the stadium itself? No
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Are they statues? Columns?
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The Colosseum?
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Are they statues? One of the objects Columns? No
The Colosseum? No. But if you're heading towards Piazza Venezia, pass through it and turn right, then the answer should be obvious
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Having never been to Italy, I sadly have no idea how to get from there to there.

But this is a location in Italy, correct? In Rome? Gladiators relevant?
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Having never been to Italy, I sadly have no idea how to get from there to there. No need to be there. It will be solved nevertheless

But this is a location in Italy, correct? Yes In Rome? And indeed here Gladiators relevant? Not at all. They were out for a very long time
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Was the stadium in use in Ancient Rome? Circus Maximus?
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Was the stadium in use in Ancient Rome? Yes! To save you of the trouble, it was the stadium of Domitianus Circus Maximus? So not this one.

Remaining to solve: the competition
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Did the competition involve people dying? Something else dying?
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Did the competition involve people dying? Something else dying? No to both

Short recap: A competition between two HAM took place in the stadium of Domitianus in Rome, Italy. It involved objects, one of which was a statue. No sports were involved and nobody lost his life. Luckily for us, we can still enjoy it.
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I don't feel like reading the whole thread till now, but... is the competition a trial? And the two competitors lawyers? Cicero relevant?
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Can we enjoy: the competition itself? The results of it? Did it produce a tangible result? Did one person win? If so, could we enjoy "it" if the other one had won? The "it" we can enjoy, is it the stadium itself?
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Can we enjoy: the competition itself? No The results of it? Yes Did it produce a tangible result? Yes Did one person win? No If so, could we enjoy "it" if the other one had won?
N/AThe "it" we can enjoy, is it the stadium itself? No, but this is very much OTRT
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Hey, what about my questions? ;-)
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Hey, what about my questions? ;-) Ooops, sorry, correcting now

I don't feel like reading the whole thread till now, but... is the competition a trial? And the two competitors lawyers? Cicero relevant? No to all
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Was the building a temple? Was the statue of one of the Roman gods?
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Was the building a temple? Yesish Was the statue of one of the Roman gods? Yesish
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A goddess?? Ceres, perhaps? (Greek = Demeter?) From whence the English word 'cereal' originates, as a synonym for grain in this case? Grain = flour = bread!!
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A goddess?? Ceres, perhaps? (Greek = Demeter?) From whence the English word 'cereal' originates, as a synonym for grain in this case? Grain = flour = bread!! Nice thinking, but no, i'm afraid. It was a 'generic' god or a god-like creature, without a specific name. Even if it had a name, that is entirely irrelevant
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Faun? Satyr? Centaur? Nymph? OTRT?
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Faun? Satyr? Centaur? Nymph? OTRT? Yes. It was a river god.
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Was the competition intended to please the river god? Did it involve swimming? Did it involve an actual river? Some other body of water?
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Was the competition intended to please the river god? Did it involve swimming? Did it involve an actual river? Some other body of water? No to all. The fact that it was a river god is irrelevant. Could have been any god as far as the competition and this puzzle are concerned
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Was the competition an argument of some sort?
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Was the competition an argument of some sort? I don't understand exactly. If you mean a verbal argument, than no
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Could you please recap?
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Here's the recap: A one-time competition (or a contest, for svv of both) between two HAMs took place in the stadium of Domitianus in Rome, Italy. It involved objects, one of which was a statue -- representing a river god -- and the other a yesish temple. No sports were involved and nobody lost his life. Luckily for us, we can still enjoy it -- that is, the result of it. The stadium in itself was not specifically meant to host this competition and is relevant only insofar we want to pinpoint the actual events. The title should not be considered relevant anymore, because doing otherwise will get us stuck till even after the last trombone will be played, paraphrasing a puzzle hosted by woodworm that I enjoyed a lot.

I should mention, for the sake of accuracy, that the story is apocryphal, but widely believed to be true. Not relevant for the puzzle, anyway. Also, as in all my puzzles, googling or otherwise using external references is entirely acceptable.
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But this was not an athletic competition, correct? Was it a race?
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But this was not an athletic competition, correct? Correct, no sport whatsoever was involved Was it a race? So definitely no
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Is academics involved? Science?
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Is academics involved? Science? No to both
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Music? Literature? Poetry? Art? Painting? Acting?
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Music? Literature? Poetry? Art? This! No to the rest Painting? Acting?
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Art: drawing? Sculpting? Were the two people trying to copy the statue? Create a duplicate statue?
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Art: drawing? Sculpting? This one for the statue Were the two people trying to copy the statue? Create a duplicate statue? No to rest
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The other one - carving? Mosaic?
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The other one - carving? Mosaic? No to both
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Is it a form of visual art? Three-dimensional art? Scriptoral art? Calligraphy?
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Is it a form of visual art? Yes Three-dimensional art? Yes Scriptoral art? Calligraphy? No to rest
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Is the other person trying to make the same pose as the statue?
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Is the other person trying to make the same pose as the statue? No
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Is he building something? Out of brick? Stone?
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Building something out of...bread? :-D (I had to ask)
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Is he building something? According to the story it has been already built by the time of the competition Out of brick? Stone? Probably both. Irr. It's a yesish temple

Building something out of...bread? :-D (I had to ask) Haha, no. Without knowing the specific event, bread has no relevance
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Is the thing built the stadium itself?
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Is the thing built the stadium itself? No
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Is the thing built a part of the stadium? Another statue? Of a god? Or goddess?
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Is the thing built a part of the stadium? Indeed it is! It's a church, now part of the former stadium.

Short recap:

We have a "competition" between a statue and a church, in a former Roman stadium. What prompted this 'competition' and what is the competition about? To clarify the end of the puzzle statement, it simply means that we can still see both the statue and the church

Another statue? Of a god? Or goddess?
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Is this a competition similar to Elijah on Mount Carmel?
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Is this a competition similar to Elijah on Mount Carmel? Nothing of this kind. The actual building of the two structures was the 'competition'
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Was the intent of the competition to see which was more majestic? More glorious?
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Was the intent of the competition to see which was more majestic? Probably this More glorious?

********* SPOILER *********
In one of the finest squares of Rome, Piazza Navona (the former stadium of Domitianus) one can still see the Fountain of the 4 Rivers, built by the famous Gian Lorenzo Bernini, standing in front of the church of St. Agnes, built by the equally famous rival of Bernini, Francesco Borromini. It is often said that Bernini sculpted the figure of the "Rio de la Plata" (one of the gods in his fountain) cowering as if he thought the facade designed by his rival Borromini could crumble atop him. This is an urban legend and a remembrance for the two great artists, but is of course false: the fountain was built before the church itself.

The reference to bread in the title is simple. Enraged by the construction of the statue, riots ensued in Rome and people were posting messages like this one: "We do not want Obelisks and Fountains, It is bread that we want. Bread, Bread, Bread!"

Thanks to all for playing

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