| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 484 Registered: 9-2009 |
He was not welcome at first but he was applauded afterwards | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5531 Registered: 4-2010 |
He 1 = He 2? HAM? Did he give a speech? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 486 Registered: 9-2009 |
He 1 = He 2? Yes HAM? Yes Did he give a speech? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5538 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is religion relevant? Politics? Was he the leader of a group or faction? Was not welcome - in a country? A town? By a certain group? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 488 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is religion relevant? Politics? Was he the leader of a group or faction? Was not welcome - in a country? A town? By a certain group? Yope to this, no to rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5542 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was not welcome - by a certain person? Is war relevant? Is this a true story? Did it take place in [LTPF list of centuries]? On [LTPF list of continents]? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 491 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was not welcome - by a certain person? No Is war relevant? Yes Is this a true story? Yes Did it take place in [LTPF list of centuries]? 20th On [LTPF list of continents]? Europe | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3233 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he do something in order to be applauded? Something good? great? Heroic? Unexpected? Did he receive literal applause? From the same people that didn't welcome him? Is this a true story? Fiction? FYOI? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 492 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he do something in order to be applauded? Yes Something good? great? Heroic? This is closest, though all the others were impliedUnexpected? Did he receive literal applause? No From the same people that didn't welcome him? Yesish to Yope Is this a true story? This one Fiction? FYOI? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5551 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he save the people? Protect them? From an enemy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 494 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he save the people? Protect them? From an enemy? No to all. Could be also a yope, but that might mislead severely | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5554 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this in wartime? Are "they" from the same country? Is he from the same country as "they" are? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 496 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is this in wartime? Are "they" from the same country? Is he from the same country as "they" are? Yes to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5561 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he not welcome because...he was accused of being a traitor? He did not live in *country*? He had left *country*? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 498 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he not welcome because...he was accused of being a traitor? He did not live in *country*? He had left *country*? No to all | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 314 Registered: 9-2010 |
LTPF list of countries? LTPF list of decades? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 500 Registered: 9-2009 |
LTPF list of countries? Italy LTPF list of decades? 1910s | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3246 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he a politician? A military person? A diplomat? Was Italy at war? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 502 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he a politician? No A military person?Yope A diplomat?No Was Italy at war?Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5576 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this during WWI? Was he accused of starting the war? Of escalating it? Of not stopping it? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 506 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is this during WWI? Yes Was he accused of starting the war? Of escalating it? Of not stopping it? No to rest and FA | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3252 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he accused of anything? Was he unwelcome because of something he had said? Or done? Or not done? Did he have a bad reputation? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 507 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he accused of anything? No, that was the FA Was he unwelcome because of something he had said? No Or done? Yope Or not done? Did he have a bad reputation? No to the rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5582 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he unwelcome because of something he was thought to have done? Something that people believed he was going to do? Something that he was going to do? That they believed he was doing? That he was doing? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 508 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he unwelcome because of something he was thought to have done? Something that people believed he was going to do? Something that he was going to do? That they believed he was doing? That he was doing? Only for something he has done ... ish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5619 Registered: 4-2010 |
The "something he has done...ish": is it related to the war? To the country? Is it something he ordered others to do? Taught others to do? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 511 Registered: 9-2009 |
The "something he has done...ish": is it related to the war? To the country? Is it something he ordered others to do? Taught others to do? No to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5631 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the people know he had "done-ish" the thing? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5632 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it something he'd said? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 513 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the people know he had "done-ish" the thing? Yes, for sure Was it something he'd said? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5647 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it something he had "done-ish" to someone? To something? Could you please recap? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 516 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it something he had "done-ish" to someone? Yes To something? No Could you please recap? Sure: This is WW1. Our hero -- let's give him a name, Roberto -- was not welcome at first (but not accused of anything, really), but in the end he was acclaimed. The reason for which he was not welcome was because of something he yesishly did, to someone. Look out for FA here. Our Roberto raised to fame -- a street in Rome bears his name and he is a known figure. He wasn't in the military. Now then.... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5679 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Roberto married? Relevant? Does what he "did" involve family relationships? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 518 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was Roberto married? I don't know Relevant? No Does what he "did" involve family relationships? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5684 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he destroy something? Build something? Fix something? Damage something? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 519 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he destroy something? Build something? Fix something? This was his intention, very good question Damage something? No to the others | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5687 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he not welcome because he tried to fix "it"? Is "it" a building? Statue? City? Monument? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 521 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he not welcome because he tried to fix "it"? In a sense yes, but this might be misleading. Is "it" a building? Statue? City? Monument? None of these. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5690 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is "it" a physical, tangible object? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 523 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is "it" a physical, tangible object? Yes it is | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5695 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the object larger than a building? A room? A bookshelf? A microwave? A baseball? A bread crumb? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 524 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the object larger than a building? Depending on the type of building, it could be, though normally buildings are larger A room? Yes to this and to the rest A bookshelf? A microwave? A baseball? A bread crumb? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5698 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a statue? A fountain? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 526 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a statue? A fountain? No statues or fountains in this puzzle | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5705 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the object outside? Inside? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 535 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the object outside? I think this one is true Inside? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5732 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 536 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]? Mostly metal. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5752 Registered: 4-2010 |
Metal...a fence? Some other form of protection? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 537 Registered: 9-2009 |
Metal...a fence? Some other form of protection? No to both | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5771 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does he fix a replica of something? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 550 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does he fix a replica of something? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5776 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it plumbing of some sort? Is it something that belongs to the emperor? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 551 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it plumbing of some sort? No Is it something that belongs to the emperor? What emperor? No emperors are involved in this puzzle | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3279 Registered: 9-2009 |
was he an engineer? Is the metal thing a tower of some sort? can it be called a: structure? Building? Vehicle? Weapon? Is electricity involved? Relevant how the object got broken? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 554 Registered: 9-2009 |
was he an engineer? I don't think so. More like a mechanic I guess Is the metal thing a tower of some sort? No can it be called a: structure? Building? Vehicle? This one, none of the others Weapon? Is electricity involved? No Relevant how the object got broken? Not at all and the object is not broken, the 'fixing' was used for lack of a better word. I think maintenance is more appropriate. The object in itself is not very relevant, but what happened during the maintenance operation is Good round of questions | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3286 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a water vehicle? Land vehicle? Aircraft? Was he unwelcome before he started the maintenance? Was he unwelcome because he wanted to do maintenance? Did he become a hero while carrying out the maintenance? Enemy operations relevant? Did he discover something? Such as sabotage? Or an attack? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5786 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it a military vehicle? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 556 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a water vehicle? No Land vehicle? Yes Aircraft? So not this Was he unwelcome before he started the maintenance? No Was he unwelcome because he wanted to do maintenance? No, it was his job to do it Did he become a hero while carrying out the maintenance? No and a major FA lurking Enemy operations relevant? No Did he discover something? No Such as sabotage? Or an attack? No and the same FA. Once this FA is cleared, we'll be approaching the finale, I guess Was it a military vehicle? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5797 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it a car? Wagon? Was the vehicle man-powered? Animal-powered? Gas-powered? Did it have an engine? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 557 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a car? Wagon? This is closest. Actually it was a locomotive Was the vehicle man-powered? Animal-powered? Gas-powered? Did it have an engine? Certainly | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5804 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the locomotive have special significance to the townspeople? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 558 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the locomotive have special significance to the townspeople? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5812 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the locomotive supposed to be broken? Immovable? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 562 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the locomotive supposed to be broken? No, and it wasn't. Roberto carried some maintenance activities on it Immovable? No Hint: the locomotive is not relevant anymore. What happened during one of his maintenance activities -- which were his job -- is relevant and explains why he wasn't welcome | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5823 Registered: 4-2010 |
What happened - did it involve someone else? More than one? Something else? More than one? Did he harm someone? Kill someone? Accidentally? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 565 Registered: 9-2009 |
What happened - did it involve someone else? No More than one? Something else? Other than what? More than one? Ditto Did he harm someone? YES! Kill someone? No Accidentally? Indeed. Very good questions | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5838 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the person injured H? A? M? Were they injured by blunt force? Sharp force? Electric shock? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 566 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the person injured H? A? M? HAM, yes Were they injured by blunt force? This one I guess Sharp force? This is also a possibility Electric shock? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5843 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they struck with something? With a tool? With the locomotive? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 567 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were they struck with something? Who are "they"? I should've asked the same above. Only one person was injured With a tool? No With the locomotive? Technically, yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5848 Registered: 4-2010 |
Whoops - I meant "was he," not "were they." I don't know what I was thinking about - my bad. Did the injured person fall on the locomotive? Was he shoved into it? Was he run over by it? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 568 Registered: 9-2009 |
Whoops - I meant "was he," not "were they." I don't know what I was thinking about - my bad. No problem, we solved it Did the injured person fall on the locomotive? Was he shoved into it? Was he run over by it? I don't know the exact details and these are irrelevant. He was caught by some gear. Now how this event led to Roberto not being welcome? This is the only part remaining to solve. We know that he was later acclaimed because he became a war hero. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5852 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Roberto supposed to be protecting the guy? Was there supposed to be a safety measure preventing this from happening? Was the locomotive running when Roberto was working on it? Was it supposed to be? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 572 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was Roberto supposed to be protecting the guy? Serious FA Was there supposed to be a safety measure preventing this from happening? I don't know, irr Was the locomotive running when Roberto was working on it? Yes but the details of the accident are largely irrelevant Was it supposed to be? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5855 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the injured guy do something unsafe? Was Roberto supposed to be in the place of the injured guy? So Roberto should have been injured instead? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 573 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the injured guy do something unsafe? Possibly, but irr Was Roberto supposed to be in the place of the injured guy? FA So Roberto should have been injured instead? FA | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5862 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Roberto himself the injured guy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 575 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was Roberto himself the injured guy? Exactly! Which also clears the FA... Good job! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5865 Registered: 4-2010 |
So Roberto was not welcome because he'd injured himself while working on the locomotive? Was the manner of injury stupid? Horrific? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 576 Registered: 9-2009 |
So Roberto was not welcome because he'd injured himself while working on the locomotive? Yesish Was the manner of injury stupid? Horrific? No to both. The manner in which he managed to get injured is not relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5869 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he not welcome because of where he'd injured himself? Relevant where he injured himself? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 577 Registered: 9-2009 |
A short recap before going to sleep: Roberto is an Italian hero of WW1 although he was not in the military, technically speaking. He was not welcome at first, because of an accident in which he injured himself, while doing his job as some sort of a mechanic of locomotives. He was later acclaimed for his heroic stance during the war. The story is true and our Roberto's real name will be revealed in the $poiler. Remaining to solve: why was he not welcome and what has this to do with the accident? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 578 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he not welcome because of where he'd injured himself? Where as in what part of the body? This is relevant, to some extent, though conceivably other scenarios could be equally likely Relevant where he injured himself? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5880 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he supposed to be working at the time he injured himself? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 579 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he supposed to be working at the time he injured himself? Irr | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5904 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he injure his head? Arm? Hand? Torso? Foot? Leg? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 582 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he injure his head? Arm? Hand? Torso? Foot? Leg? This | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 402 Registered: 9-2010 |
Bruise his leg? Break his leg? Fracture the bone? Did he sprain his ankle? Twist his ankle? Dislocate his knee or hip? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 583 Registered: 9-2009 |
Bruise his leg? Break his leg? Fracture the bone? Did he sprain his ankle? Twist his ankle? Dislocate his knee or hip? He lost it completely | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3353 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he unwelcome because he was a cripple? Because he was a cripple, but not crippled by war? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 404 Registered: 9-2010 |
Lost his leg completely? Awww...ick, that must have really hurt. :-( | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 584 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he unwelcome because he was a cripple? Indeed. But why and by whom? Because he was a cripple, but not crippled by war? Not this | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 585 Registered: 9-2009 |
Lost his leg completely? Awww...ick, that must have really hurt. :-( Actually, to be correct, he bruised it beyond repair and the leg had to be amputated from the hip | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5948 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant who amputated his leg? Were those who did not welcome him also crippled? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 587 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant who amputated his leg? Were those who did not welcome him also crippled? No to both | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3380 Registered: 9-2009 |
was he unwelcome because he couldn't do something? such as go to war? Or because how he looked? Is the military relevant to unwelcoming him? Or the church? Or a politician? Or the general population? Or someone involved in the incident where he lost his leg? were all cripples unwelcome? All cripples without a leg? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2107 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it fair to say that the reason for his frosty welcome is trivial, i.e. the military didn't see how a one-legged soldier could serve his country? And would it be more helpful to focus on how his one-leggedness helped him to become a hero? Did he have a prosthesis? Is this relevant? Did he conceal a weapon in his false leg, and use it to carry out a strategic ambush? Or did he act as some sort of decoy or distraction? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 589 Registered: 9-2009 |
was he unwelcome because he couldn't do something? such as go to war? YES!, or least they thought he couldn't Or because how he looked? No Is the military relevant to unwelcoming him? YES! Or the church? Or a politician? Or the general population? Or someone involved in the incident where he lost his leg? were all cripples unwelcome? All cripples without a leg? It's time for the ******* SPOILER ******* Our Roberto was in fact Enrico Toti, who lost his leg in 1908 while working for the Italian railways. Subsequently he become an accomplished cyclist, riding his bycicle with only one leg throughout Europe up to Lapland and in Egypt. With the advent of WW1 Toti thrice petitioned for enrollment into the military but was rejected because of his injury. Nonetheless, he took his bicycle and managed to get to the battlefield and participated in combat operation. Caught by the military police, he was arrested and sent back home, only for him to find his way back to the battlefield. He died at Monfalcone in 1916, legendarily hurling his clutch at the enemy. He was posthumously awarded the Gold Medal of Military Valor (Italy's highest award for valour), one of the few civilians to be bestowed by this honour. Many streets (including one in Rome), two Italian navy submarines and one branch of the Railway police have been named after him. Thanks to all for playing, especially Balin and Galfisk who also provided the final informations. |
