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Balin (Balin)
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The worst thing he could have said was the best thing he could have said.
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She (from title) H/A/F? Relevant?
He = H/A/M?
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And the obvious: he1 = he2?
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Drugs relevant?
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Did he say something to a woman? Something uncomplimentary? Perhaps in response to 'do these clothes make me look fat'? And this turned out to save her life, or such?
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She (from title) H/A/F? No, Noish, Yope Relevant? No
He = H/A/M? Yes

And the obvious: he1 = he2? Yes

Drugs relevant? Yes!

Did he say something to a woman? Yope, minor FA Something uncomplimentary? No Perhaps in response to 'do these clothes make me look fat'? No And this turned out to save her life, or such? No
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Did he say something to a big bag of cocaine?

Hmmm ... that would be more than a minor FA. And a bit silly.

Did he say something about a woman? To more than one woman? To women in general? To a girl? Or is it that he could have said it, but didn't? Or did he sing something in a bluesy fashion? Did he sing something to his pet cat?

I assume that 'she' in the title is Charlie and not the woman to whom he said things?
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Did he say something to a big bag of cocaine? No, but cocaine is relevant.

Hmmm ... that would be more than a minor FA. And a bit silly. Silly indeed, but that was the point of the title.

Did he say something about a woman? No To more than one woman? Yes, and... To women in general? No To a girl? No Or is it that he could have said it, but didn't? No - he did say it Or did he sing something in a bluesy fashion? No, but I wish. Did he sing something to his pet cat? No

I assume that 'she' in the title is Charlie and not the woman to whom he said things? Yes, slight FA - see previous answers. And he didn't speak to cocaine...the title was just to get you on that track.
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Did he say something to a group of people that included men and women?
Is an "intervention" involved in any way? Drug rehab? Getting "clean"?
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Did he say something to a group of people that included men and women? Yes
Is an "intervention" involved in any way? Drug rehab? Getting "clean"? Noish to all
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Was what he said misunderstood? Did he insult someone? Did what he say trigger a reaction from someone? And this reaction ended up being good?
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Was what he said misunderstood? No, but... Did he insult someone? Noish Did what he say trigger a reaction from someone? Yes And this reaction ended up being good? Certainly, and especially so, given the circumstances.
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Is he using drugs? has he used them before?

Did he give a speech? Anything relevant about the group he talked to?
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Is he using drugs? No, but... has he used them before? No, but...

Did he give a speech? Yes Anything relevant about the group he talked to? Yes!
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Does he know anyone who has used/is using drugs?

Is the speech about drugs? Is he talking to a group of ex-addicts? Any charity event relevant?
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Does he know anyone who has used/is using drugs? Yesish

Is the speech about drugs? Yope Is he talking to a group of ex-addicts? No... Any charity event relevant? No
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Does he know someone who has been affected by drugs, but not used it themselves (like a friend who has a family member who uses drugs)?

The relevant thing about the group he's talking to;
age?
profession?
hobbies?
families?
backgrounds?
education?
social status?
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Does he know someone who has been affected by drugs, but not used it themselves (like a friend who has a family member who uses drugs)? Probably, but irrel-ish

The relevant thing about the group he's talking to;
age? No
profession? Yope
hobbies? Yope
families? No
backgrounds? Noish
education? No
social status? Yope
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Is there a spesific reason why it's HIM that does the speech?

Do all these people live in the same area? Are the all H?A?
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Is there a spesific reason why it's HIM that does the speech? Yes

Do all these people live in the same area? Yes Are the all H?A? Yes, HA-Mixed
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Is he an expert in the field? Does he work in a rehab fascility? Or on the other side of the scale, is he? or was he? a drug dealer?
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Is he an expert in the field? Yes, but this might result in an FA. Does he work in a rehab fascility? No Or on the other side of the scale, is he? No or was he? No a drug dealer? No
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Is he speaking to a group of addicts? Suspected addicts? Is he from an anti-drug group? Law enforcement?
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Is he speaking to a group of addicts? Yope Suspected addicts? No Is he from an anti-drug group? Law enforcement? No to both, but...
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Prison relevant? Does the group contain some addicts? Or one? Or people otherwise involved in drugs?
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Prison relevant? No Does the group contain some addicts? Highly likely Or one? Or people otherwise involved in drugs? But this is definitely important
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Is the group: a group likely to use drugs? Make drugs? Sell drugs? Are they criminals? Prostitutes? Gang(s)? Or are they involved in fighting against drugs? Is he?
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Is the group: a group likely to use drugs? Noish Make drugs? Yope Sell drugs? Yope Are they criminals? Prostitutes? Gang(s)? None of these Or are they involved in fighting against drugs? Noish Is he? No
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Are there people in the group who are considering trying drugs? people who may be pressured to try drugs? people who are anti-drug?
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Are there people in the group who are considering trying drugs? Irrel, but likely people who may be pressured to try drugs? Irrel, but again likely people who are anti-drug? Noish/Yope...this line of questioning is OTRT.

HINT: A typical LTPF background question will be very helpful here.
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There's no such thing as a "typical" question, is there?

Is the speaker's profession relevant? Is he something more than simply a speaker?
Was the purpose of the message any of these:
to motivate the listeners?
to educate the listeners?
to scold/admonish the listeners?
to ask questions?
to provide answers?
to "root out" a certain person? people?
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There's no such thing as a "typical" question, is there? Point taken.

Is the speaker's profession relevant? Yes Is he something more than simply a speaker? Definitely
Was the purpose of the message any of these:
to motivate the listeners?
to educate the listeners?
to scold/admonish the listeners?
to ask questions?
to provide answers?
to "root out" a certain person? people? Yope to this, No to rest. Still looking for another usual question, though.
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LTPF List of Usual LTPF Questions, so far as I can make out:

H/A/M? H/A/F? Relevant?
LTPF lists of:
Continents? Relevant?
Countries? Relevant?
Centuries? Relevant?
Decades? Relevant?
Occupations? Relevant?

There may be more, so anyone else is free to throw stuff in.
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LTPF List of Usual LTPF Questions, so far as I can make out: That's certainly a first LTPF list....

H/A/M? H/A/F? Relevant? Already been determined - "he" is HAM, and the group is HA-Mixed.

LTPF lists of:
Continents? Relevant?
Countries? Relevant?
Centuries? Relevant?
Decades? Relevant?
Occupations? Relevant?

All of these are relevant, to which the answers are (respectively) South America, Peru, 21st, 2000s (right around the turn of the century), and "I can neither reveal his nor theirs without giving stuff away, so you'll have to figure those out."

There may be more, so anyone else is free to throw stuff in. Well, you got the important ones.
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LTPF List of Usual LTPF Questions, so far as I can make out: That's certainly a first LTPF list.... *grin* I like to be original!
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Is he a tour guide? (I'd love to do the Inca trail!)

Is he advising people against chewing the local narcotics? Or perhaps warning them against smuggling coke in the backpack of a llama?

Is the coca plant grown in Peru? (I'm quite naive about these things.)
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Is he a tour guide? No (I'd love to do the Inca trail!) As would I!

Is he advising people against chewing the local narcotics? No Or perhaps warning them against smuggling coke in the backpack of a llama? No

Is the coca plant grown in Peru? (I'm quite naive about these things.) Indeed it is, and these are the cocaleros. (Coca growers)

Now what is his job, why does he give the speech, and what's the deal with the thing he said?
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Is he some sort of Christian missionary?

Was anyone's life saved as a result of what he said?

Did he make a slip of the tongue?
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Is he some sort of Christian missionary? No

Was anyone's life saved as a result of what he said? Not likely

Did he make a slip of the tongue? Oh, yes....
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Does he like Coca-Cola?
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Does he like Coca-Cola? Irrel
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(In case you're not sure what I was after, there, I heard that Coca-Cola used to be made with cocaine and kola nuts as two of the ingredients, hence the name. Although at least the cocaine has been dropped from the recipe.)
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(In case you're not sure what I was after, there, I heard that Coca-Cola used to be made with cocaine and kola nuts as two of the ingredients, hence the name. Although at least the cocaine has been dropped from the recipe.) I actually learned that in one of my classes this year...which is where I learned about this story (HINT)
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Well, I don't think I've heard this story...I just heard that fact, with nothing attached.
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Well, I don't think I've heard this story...I just heard that fact, with nothing attached. Story = the puzzle; I learned that, along with other information about cocaine (including the Coca-Cola connection) in one of my classes this year. I would give more detail, but that might give away part of the puzzle.
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Is coca-cola relevant at all? Did he say "coke" when he meant the drink, but they thought he meant the drug? Or the other way around? Is he their boss? Is he undercover? Does he want them to: stop growing the stuff? Keep growing it? Grow more of it? Grow it elsewhere? Get another job? Go to prison? Die? Live happily ever after? does he want them to do anything at all differently?
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Is coca-cola relevant at all? No Did he say "coke" when he meant the drink, but they thought he meant the drug? No, FA Or the other way around? See previous Is he their boss? No Is he undercover? No, but... Does he want them to: stop growing the stuff? Keep growing it? Grow more of it? Grow it elsewhere? Get another job? Go to prison? Die? Live happily ever after? does he want them to do anything at all differently? All are irrel, actually.
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Is he working in any of the following areas;

Entertainment?
Law enforcement?
Media?
Civil servant?
Clerk?
Art?
Hospitality business?
Retail?
Farmer/fisherman?
Grocer?
Tradesman?
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Is it relevant where the speech has been delivered? To what type of audience?

Relating to the audience, is it relevant: their profession? their age?

About the speaker: was he a politician? an actor? did he intend to make a joke? a pun? If cocaine is relevant, could 'heroine' be relevant as well? Or is it something special about cocaine?

Did you learn about it while taking your classes about: mathematics? south american literature? english literature? history? biology? chemistry? other?
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Is he working in any of the following areas;

Entertainment?
Law enforcement?
Media? Yope, No to rest
Civil servant?
Clerk?
Art?
Hospitality business?
Retail?
Farmer/fisherman?
Grocer?
Tradesman?

Is it relevant where the speech has been delivered? To what type of audience? Yesish/Yope to both

Relating to the audience, is it relevant: their profession? This, which has been determined. their age? This is relevant as well

About the speaker: was he a politician? an actor? Neither did he intend to make a joke? a pun? Neither, possible FA If cocaine is relevant, could 'heroine' be relevant as well? Or is it something special about cocaine? No, it's specifically about cocaine.

Did you learn about it while taking your classes about: mathematics? south american literature? english literature? history? biology? chemistry? other? It's a "Global Experience" class with a focus on drugs worldwide.
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Is the speaker a reporter? Is he interviewing anyone?
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Is the speaker a reporter? No, but close; he's a researcher and author. Is he interviewing anyone? No, but he wants to...
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Is there a problem or issue with translation? Is he speaking through an interpreter? Or trying to speak the native language without the help of an interpreter?
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Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a problem or issue with translation? Yes! Is he speaking through an interpreter? No, but... Or trying to speak the native language without the help of an interpreter? ...Yes!!!!
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Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So does he say something that, to him, is an "innocent" word or subject, but to native speakers means something different that isn't so "innocent"?

Does he say something to them that is locally a slang term for drugs?
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So does he say something that, to him, is an "innocent" word or subject, but to native speakers means something different that isn't so "innocent"? No (tiny ish)

Does he say something to them that is locally a slang term for drugs? No
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Since this is Peru, are variations in the Spanish language relevant? Like a word might mean one thing in Spain, but something slightly different in Peru?
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Since this is Peru, are variations in the Spanish language relevant? Like a word might mean one thing in Spain, but something slightly different in Peru? No, but VERY OTRT
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Native people of Peru relevant? (i.e. not Spanish-speakers...like Native Americans...I used to know the word for the particular ones I'd heard of in Peru, in my writing class, but my mind is drawing a blank)
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Native people of Peru relevant? (i.e. not Spanish-speakers...like Native Americans...I used to know the word for the particular ones I'd heard of in Peru, in my writing class, but my mind is drawing a blank) I don't know the word, but it's not relevant.
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Is pronunciation relevant? Certain sounds are pronounced very differently in Spain and Peru...
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Is pronunciation relevant? Certain sounds are pronounced very differently in Spain and Peru... DOYD of "pronunciation," yes. I think you have an FA about the speaker.
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Is the name 'Coca' relevant? Maybe the speaker's name?
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Is the name 'Coca' relevant? No Maybe the speaker's name? No
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Just to verify, is he speaking Spanish? English? Other language?

Is he trying to persuade them to take part in a research project? Is he lecturing them on the bad consequences of cocaine use?

Oh, one more thing. Is he talking to all the people at once? Or one at the time?
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Just to verify, is he speaking Spanish? This. However.... English? Other language?

Is he trying to persuade them to take part in a research project? Close...he's trying to persuade them to let him interview them. Is he lecturing them on the bad consequences of cocaine use?

Oh, one more thing. Is he talking to all the people at once? This Or one at the time?
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He is a non-native Spanish speaker, correct?
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He is a non-native Spanish speaker, correct? That is correct, and that clears up the possible FA.
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Many non-Spanish speakers learn Castilian Spanish pronunciation rather than Latin American pronunciation. My assumption was that the problem could have come from that. Did it?

Or was the problem more with the speaker's native accent (resulting from his native language)?
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Many non-Spanish speakers learn Castilian Spanish pronunciation rather than Latin American pronunciation. My assumption was that the problem could have come from that. Did it? No...this was more embarrassing than that.

Or was the problem more with the speaker's native accent (resulting from his native language)? No
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Are false cognates relevant? (false cognates = words that are spelled the same or similar in different languages but have completely different meanings)
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Are false cognates relevant? (false cognates = words that are spelled the same or similar in different languages but have completely different meanings) No, but OTRT.
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Is it relevant what his native language was? Did he by mistake utter a word from his own language and it was misunderstood?
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Is it relevant what his native language was? No Did he by mistake utter a word from his own language and it was misunderstood? No. The answer is much simpler than this.
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Do you need to know Spanish to know the answer of this puzzle?

Past/present tense relevant?
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Do you need to know Spanish to know the answer of this puzzle? Not really - if you can figure out the general mistake, that should be enough. And a HINT: The mistake, though not the exact one he made, could happen in pretty much any language.

Past/present tense relevant? No
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A simple slip of the tongue? Did he realize immediately that he made the mistake?
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A simple slip of the tongue? Did he realize immediately that he made the mistake? Yes to both; I will save the specific mistake for the $poyler, but I will say that it was extremely funny and embarrassing.

We know why this was the worst thing he could have said; now why was this the best thing he could have said?
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Did the slip of the tongue point out a problem no one had discovered earlier?

Or maybe it made everyone laugh and feel relaxed and comfortable and he ended up getting all his interviews?
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Did the slip of the tongue point out a problem no one had discovered earlier? No, but...

Or maybe it made everyone laugh and feel relaxed and comfortable and he ended up getting all his interviews? ...this is close enough.

**********SPOILER**********

This anecdote comes from Dominic Streatfeild's excellent book Cocaine, which is about the best assigned reading book one could ever get. To help establish background info, Streatfeild went to Peru to learn about coca from the cocaleros (coca growers) in San Jorge, but they were worried that they would be arrested (Streatfeild was with several policement, and there was a constant fear of being arrested by the DEA), so they at first refused to be interviewed. A local farmer named Moises addressed the crowd, saying that Streatfield wanted to make a speech (which he didn't). In order to calm the crowd, Streatfeild played along. What happened next...well, it's best in his own words:

"For posterity, Moises recorded my little oration with a hand-held tape recorder. He needn't have bothered. In my battered Spanish I explained that I was English, that I was a journalist, that I was writing a book about coca to try to explain to the people in Britain what was going on in Peru. Then I screwed up. Racking my brain to come up with something else to say that might persuade these guys that I was a serious investigator, I tried to tell them that I was 31 years old and had been researching coca in England for two years. However, nerves, and the fact that my Spanish is rudimentary at best, led to a fatal error: in Spanish the word 'aņos' has a very different meaning from the word 'anos'. I chose the wrong one. Thus the villagers of San Jorge were delighted to hear that I had 31 anuses and had been writing a book for two of them. A snigger ran through the crowd. It was probably the best thing I could have said. Clearly I was harmless: even the DEA wouldn't employ someone this stupid."

Nice job to everyone involved; a lot of you worked on this. Bonus points to Eli, who got the last bit.
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Wo-hoooo. Solved a puzzle!! Usually I ask loads of questions and then they get solved while I'm asleep, lol

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