[It_So_Happened] Degrees of Separation

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Author Message It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 666 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 7:46 pm:        I think this is an idiomuzzle of sorts, but I'm not too savvy on all the specifics of puzzle types. And it's not an idiom, but more of a familiar concept. The goal is to find the correct substitutions for the words in red. The king made the German dog. A rule of thumb for finding the necessary substitutions for this puzzle: x = y, y = z, x does not = z. Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 639 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 7:52 pm:        Kevin Bacon relevant? King: Monarch? Ruler? Head? Royalty? Royal family? German: Bavarian? Chocolate cake relevant? Any chocolate relevant? Oktoberfest? Beer? Dog: Hot dog? Pet dog? On the off chance it's "German dog": Daschund? (I'm sure I spelled that wrong...) It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 667 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:01 pm:        Kevin Bacon relevant? nope, but good thinking King: Monarch? yes! Ruler? Head? Royalty? Royal family? German: Bavarian? Chocolate cake relevant? Any chocolate relevant? Oktoberfest? Beer? Dog: Hot dog? Pet dog? this, but see below On the off chance it's "German dog": Daschund? these two words do go together, but it's not Dacshund. (I'm sure I spelled that wrong...) Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 640 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:02 pm:        so it's now "The Monarch made the 'German dog'"? *Sighs* I'm not sure what other German dogs are out there. It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 668 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:09 pm:        Yes... The monarch made the "German dog". Feel free to wikipedia. I certainly did. =) Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2839 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:14 pm:        Well there are several German dog breeds, including: Rottweiler Pinscher Schnauzer Certain poodle varieties Keeschond Are any of these the correct one? I have a hard time with these puzzles, I've checked several of them out, still not quite sure how they work... Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 641 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:19 pm:        *facepalm* I feel stupid now, Ixoye...I've heard of the first four of those dogs...not the last one. But I still don't know which one it might be. It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 669 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:22 pm:        Well there are several German dog breeds, including: Rottweiler Pinscher Schnauzer Certain poodle varieties Keeschond Are any of these the correct one? no. Hint: it does not have a German name I have a hard time with these puzzles, I've checked several of them out, still not quite sure how they work... I have not tried to solve them myself. But the idea is to get each red word to the correct word (which will be green) through finding the correct synonym or related word. In this instance, there are intermediate words that lead you to the final correct answer. So..."monarch" is still not the final word. Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 642 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:23 pm:        Butterfly? (Monarch butterfly?) Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2840 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:26 pm:        German dog = hund? wiener? bratwurst? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 670 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:31 pm:        Butterfly? (Monarch butterfly?) Yes! Good job! German dog = hund? wiener? bratwurst? no, it does NOT have a German name =) The butterfly made the "German dog". Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2841 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:39 pm:        It does not have a German name, yet it is a dog? Breed of dog? A specific dog from Germany (specific as in famous, well-known)? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 671 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:42 pm:        It does not have a German name, yet it is a dog? Breed of dog? yes, this, and a pretty well-known one. It was first bred in Germany. A specific dog from Germany (specific as in famous, well-known)? not a specific one, no Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2843 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:48 pm:        Boxer? Yorkshire Terrier? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 672 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:51 pm:        Boxer? yes! Good job! Yorkshire Terrier? The butterfly made the boxer. Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6336 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:53 pm:        Muhammad Ali? Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee? Or boxer = type of underwear? Guy who fights people? Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2844 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:53 pm:        boxer = fighter? Is this related to Muhammed Ali? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 673 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:58 pm:        Muhammad Ali? no Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee? nope Or boxer = type of underwear? no Guy who fights people? yes boxer = fighter? yes Is this related to Muhammed Ali? no Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6338 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:01 pm:        I want to say "butterfly effect", but I don't see how we get from "boxer" to "effect"...hmmm. Are we looking for the name of a boxer? Or something related to boxers? To boxing? Boxer = Fight? Punch? Gloves? Shorts? Ring? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 676 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:04 pm:        I want to say "butterfly effect", but I don't see how we get from "boxer" to "effect"...hmmm. this is the correct concept, but "effect" is not the word. The sentence describes the concept. Are we looking for the name of a boxer? yes-ish, not full name Or something related to boxers? To boxing? Boxer = Fight? Punch? Gloves? Shorts? Ring? no to these Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6340 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:08 pm:        First name? Last name? Of a current boxer? One who no longer fights? And what to call this puzzle...the only thing that comes to mind is "dual-stage idiomuzzle"...how does that sound? Is that too clunky? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 677 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:09 pm:        First name? Last name? More like nickname Of a current boxer? One who no longer fights? this It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 678 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:11 pm:        And what to call this puzzle...the only thing that comes to mind is "dual-stage idiomuzzle"...how does that sound? Is that too clunky? It is a bit clunky, but indeed descriptive! Hmmm... Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2848 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:15 pm:        Rocky Marciano (guessing that 'Rocky' is a nickname)? 'Marvelous' Marvin Hagler? 'Iron' Mike Tyson? Hector 'Macho' Camacho? Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2133 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:18 pm:        Do we know how many links (or colour changes) we need to pass through? Or is it for you to know, and for us to find out? Is it 7 (as hinted in the title)? Are we going through a rainbow? And is the 'the ---- made the' part of the solution? For butterfly: stroke? chop? madam? nut? For boxer: foreman? cooper? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 679 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:19 pm:        Rocky Marciano (guessing that 'Rocky' is a nickname)? 'Marvelous' Marvin Hagler? 'Iron' Mike Tyson? Hector 'Macho' Camacho? No to all, but good guesses! It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 680 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:21 pm:        Do we know how many links (or colour changes) we need to pass through? Or is it for you to know, and for us to find out? Is it 7 (as hinted in the title)? Are we going through a rainbow? Actually, this one's just 3 total colors. I plan to make some with more degrees afterward. =) And is the 'the ---- made the' part of the solution? yes, the whole phrase is the solution. That is, the two unknown words fit together within the context of the phrase. For butterfly: stroke? chop? madam? nut? Butterfly is the correct word. Green is final. For boxer: foreman? cooper? nope! Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2849 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:31 pm:        Well there's 'Smokin' Joe Frazier? Butterbean? 'Real Deal' Holyfield? 'Hands of Stone' Duran? 'Buster' Douglas? 'Merciless' Ray Mercer? 'Pac Man' Pacquaio? Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2134 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:32 pm:        It must, therefore, be Rubin Carter? :-) It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 681 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:39 pm:        Well there's 'Smokin' Joe Frazier? Butterbean? 'Real Deal' Holyfield? 'Hands of Stone' Duran? 'Buster' Douglas? 'Merciless' Ray Mercer? 'Pac Man' Pacquaio? nope! It must, therefore, be Rubin Carter? :-) that's the one! ************SPOILER************** The butterfly made the hurricane. The statement is in regard to the butterfly effect principle. king = monarch = butterfly German dog = boxer = hurricane Rubin Carter was a boxer nicknamed "Hurricane". Thanks for playing! I'll add another "degree of separation" for my next one! Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2135 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:43 pm:        Really neat idea, thankyou. And anything with a Dylan connection is a bonus. Keep them coming! Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2850 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:50 pm:        Good puzzle (but it made my brain tired)! It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 682 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 9:58 pm:        I sort of had no idea how it would go, so I'm glad you liked it! And Ixoye, better give your brain some rest while I think up my next one! Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6345 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 10:49 pm:        I liked it too - nice one!