| Author | Message | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1013 Registered: 9-2010 |
When I was little, I had an erroneous belief about certain people. It didn't take me long to get over it, but it's a good thing that I did, as it would not have served me well in later life. How did I get rid of it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7483 Registered: 4-2010 |
Certain people - do they have something in common? Race? Religion? Political views? Gender? Age? Did you have this scrund when you were 5? 10? 15? 20? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1015 Registered: 9-2010 |
Certain people - do they have something in common? Some of them are grouped in different manners, but they all have one main thing in common; being "other" Race? Some of them Religion? Others this, but probably these three overlap along with the unmentioned fourth Political views? And this Gender? Age? Not these Did you have this scrund when you were 5? Around this 10? I was losing it by then, though I didn't dare say so 15? 20? No, I had it cured before I was 15, all except the last bit which you didn't mention, so I'll give it up; one of the groups was "non-heterosexuals" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7489 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is more than one group involved? And one was homosexuals, correct? Or does it include the whole LGBT spectrum? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1016 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is more than one group involved? And one was homosexuals, correct? Or does it include the whole LGBT spectrum? The whole LGBT spectrum in essence, though mostly homosexuals. And the rest are all different groups, though individuals can be in more than one group (including the LGBT one). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7491 Registered: 4-2010 |
Number of total groups involved: 2? 3? 4? 5? More? [LTPF list of integers]? Is the scrund that the groups were mutually exclusive? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1017 Registered: 9-2010 |
Number of total groups involved: 2? 3? 4? 5? More? [LTPF list of integers]? Is the scrund that the groups were mutually exclusive? Oh boy...ah, let's see if I can list them all out. Black, Hispanic, Asian, and Sicilian people, Catholics, Jews, and any non-Christian religion, Democrats, and LGBTs (particularly the first two) though that last issue didn't even come up until I was fifteen, so it doesn't really apply...it only applies in that I quickly rid myself of the "repeated" scrund in the same way as I'd gotten rid of the other ones. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7492 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the environment in which you grew up relevant? Had you ever encountered people in those groups before you got rid of the scrund? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1018 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the environment in which you grew up relevant? Yes, at least the people in my house, one particularly Had you ever encountered people in those groups before you got rid of the scrund? Yes to some, no to others. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7495 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant person in your house - mother? Father? Sibling? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1019 Registered: 9-2010 |
Relevant person in your house - mother? Father My father caused the scrund.? Sibling? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7496 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were your parents together at the time you got the scrund? Separated? Relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1020 Registered: 9-2010 |
Were your parents together at the time you got the scrund? Yes Separated? They separated when I was 13 and divorced when I was 15, but that's irrelevant to the LGBT bit. Relevant? Only to the fact that when I was little I lived in the same house as my father. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1974 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are all the members of your household white, straight, Christian, Republican, and American? If not all, was your father? Was your scrund simply about groups that are different from you/your family? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1023 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are all the members of your household white, straight, Christian, Republican, and American?All the people that were in my immediate family, yes. More extended family (mostly, my mother's brother-in-law's family) was definitely not many of those things, and this is important If not all, was your father? Was your scrund simply about groups that are different from you/your family? Yes to both. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1975 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is your father's attitude towards your mother's in-laws relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1026 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is your father's attitude towards your mother's in-laws relevant? Yes, though not just them particularly. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7509 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you ever meet your mother's brother-in-law's family? Or just hear about them? From your father? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1032 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did you ever meet your mother's brother-in-law's family? Oh yes, quite often at family gatherings Or just hear about them? No, I knew them all, except for "Uncle" Mitchell who died when I was very small From your father? He avoided talking about or to them if he could, except to disparage them | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7521 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did your father give you the scrund? Did he speak hatefully about them? Is your mother's bro-in-law himself relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1033 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did your father give you the scrund? Yes (I think I already said this) Did he speak hatefully about them? Always. Very relevant Is your mother's bro-in-law himself relevant? Extremely relevant!(His name is Paul, by the way, though that's irrelevant...his brother is "Uncle" Mitchell, quotes because Mitchell was not actually my uncle, just my cousins' uncle) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7523 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Paul white? Republican? Christian? Straight? American? Is any of these more relevant than the others? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1035 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is Paul white? Er...well, he's Sicilian. Republican? I don't know. Christian? I'm pretty sure, yeah. Straight? Definitely yes. American? Yes. Is any of these more relevant than the others? Being Sicilian is. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7525 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he actually from Sicily? Or is he just Sicilian by ancestry? *is reminded of that long ramble by Vizzini in The Princess Bride - "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!!"* | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1037 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is he actually from Sicily? Or is he just Sicilian by ancestry? You know, I don't know. But I think the latter. *is reminded of that long ramble by Vizzini in The Princess Bride - "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!!"* Inconceivable! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7528 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is your father's ancestry relevant? Does he have something against foreigners? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1039 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is your father's ancestry relevant? He's mostly a mix of various British ancestry, plus a dash of French, though he was born in New York. Does he have something against foreigners? YES. A *lot*. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7530 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was your scrund about foreigners? That they were somehow "lower" than Americans? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1041 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was your scrund about foreigners? Not 'foreigners' in the sense of 'not Americans'...because... That they were somehow "lower" than Americans? Well, that they were "lower" than white (Anglo-Saxon) people. Now, how did I get rid of that, to bring us back to the original question? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7533 Registered: 4-2010 |
By meeting some? Did someone else help you get rid of the scrund? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1043 Registered: 9-2010 |
By meeting some? This helped a bit, but first... Did someone else help you get rid of the scrund? Indirectly this (as in, I've never met the person responsible) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7536 Registered: 4-2010 |
Person - HAM? Alive? Is it Jesus? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1045 Registered: 9-2010 |
Person - HAM? Yes. Alive? Let me double check on that...No, not since September 24, 1991. So he was alive back when this scrund was happening most, then. Is it Jesus? No, although He certainly helped too :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7538 Registered: 4-2010 |
Shame on me - I Googled the date and know the answer. And this is a good one. I'll stay out of this one, but I really like the answer. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1046 Registered: 9-2010 |
You're absolutely sure? Email me so I can double-check...I hate when you leave my puzzles, Balin :-( | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7540 Registered: 4-2010 |
And I hate leaving puzzles =( - emailed. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1049 Registered: 9-2010 |
While you are indeed entirely correct in your guess, Balin, you did not $poyle the puzzle because you answered me "who", not "how"; it's not the whole answer. Feel free to put in your answer and keep at it! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7543 Registered: 4-2010 |
Person = Dr. Seuss, so... Was the scrund vanquished through reading one of his books? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1051 Registered: 9-2010 |
Yesish...his books are involved(ish) but not reading (and it'd be helpful to establish which ones, too) | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 288 Registered: 9-2010 |
Gay, black, Jewish, Mexicans involved? Is the title of the books (as in, opposed to the content of the book, not meaning what book it was per se) relevant? Are there [LTPF list of integers] relevant books? Yertle the Turtle? Horton Hears a Hoot? One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish? Cat in the Hat? Any Cat in the Hat sequels? The Lorax? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 289 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oh, and creepy.... I have an Uncle Mitchell (who is still alive) and he had a brother who died young.... Younger than your Mitchell though. He was 1. My mom wasn't even born yet, and scarily if Mark hadn't died, my grandparents may never have conceived my mother. Which means I wouldn't be born. So if I build a time machine, I'm not saving him lest I invoke the grandfather paradox. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1059 Registered: 9-2010 |
Gay, black, Jewish, Mexicans involved? Is the title of the books (as in, opposed to the content of the book, not meaning what book it was per se) relevant? Certain books are relevant. Are there [LTPF list of integers] relevant books? Okay, let's see if I can explain this without giving too much away. There are two books involved. The Cat in the Hat character is relevant to one, but not the book or its sequels. That book is relevant to two other books which are not relevant to the scrund. Remember, though, I was not reading these books. So Book 1 = not related to Cat in the Hat character Book 2 = related to Cat in the Hat character as well as 2 other books irrelevant to the scrund Yertle the Turtle? Horton Hears a Hoot? Hears a Who, you mean? One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish? Cat in the Hat? Any Cat in the Hat sequels? The Lorax? None of the above. The *character* of the Cat in the Hat is relevant in a way, though. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7552 Registered: 4-2010 |
Oh the Thinks You Can Think? How the Grinch Stole Christmas? (These are the only ones I can think of right now...*sigh* it's been a while.) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1064 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oh the Thinks You Can Think? How the Grinch Stole Christmas? (These are the only ones I can think of right now...*sigh* it's been a while.)Aww, poor Balin. No, not those. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7583 Registered: 4-2010 |
One more just came to mind... 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins? Though I doubt that's it.... | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1066 Registered: 9-2010 |
One more just came to mind... 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins? Though I doubt that's it....Nope. Google is your friend, Balin. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1978 Registered: 7-2009 |
And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, 1937 Bartholomew and the Oobleck, 1949 The Butter Battle Book, 1984 Cat in the Hat, 1957 Cat in the Hat Comes Back, 1958 Cat's Quizzer, The Daisy-Head Mayzie Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? 1973 Dr. Seuss ABC, 1963 Dr. Seuss Sleep Book, 1962 The Five Hundred Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins, 1938 The Foot Book, 1968 Fox in Socks, 1965 Great Day for Up! 1974 Green Eggs and Ham, 1960 Happy Birthday to You, 1959 Hop on Pop, 1963 Horton Hatches the Egg, 1940 Horton Hears a Who, 1954 How the Grinch Stole Christmas, 1957 Hunches in Bunches, 1982 I Am Not Going to Get up Today!, 1987 I Can Draw It Myself: By Me, Myself with a Little Help from My Friend Dr. Seuss, 1970 I Can Lick Thirty Tigers Today & Other Stories, 1969 I Can Read with My Eyes Shut!, 1978 I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew, 1992 If I Ran the Circus, 1956 If I Ran the Zoo, 1950 King's Stilts, 1939 The Lorax, 1971 McElligot's Pool, 1947 Marvin K. Mooney, Will You Please Go Now, 1972 Mister Brown Can Moo, Can You, 1970 My Book About Me, 1969 Oh, Say Can You Say?, 1979 Oh, the Places You'll Go!, 1990 Oh! The Thinks You Can Think!, 1975 On Beyond Zebra, 1955 One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish, 1960 Scrambled Eggs Super!, 1953 The Seven Lady Godivas, 1987 Shape Of Me And Other Stuff, 1973 Sneetches And Other Stories, 1969 There's a Wocket in My Pocket! 1974 Thidwick, the Big-Hearted Moose, 1948 Wet Pet, Dry Pet, Your Pet, My Pet Yertle the Turtle & Other Stories, 1958 You're Only Old Once Hooray for Diffendoofer Day Which of the above books are involved? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1072 Registered: 9-2010 |
And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, 1937 Bartholomew and the Oobleck, 1949 The Butter Battle Book, 1984 This is "Book" 1 (though not as a book, hence the quotes) Cat in the Hat, 1957 Cat in the Hat Comes Back, 1958 Cat's Quizzer, The Daisy-Head Mayzie Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? 1973 Dr. Seuss ABC, 1963 Dr. Seuss Sleep Book, 1962 The Five Hundred Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins, 1938 The Foot Book, 1968 Fox in Socks, 1965 Great Day for Up! 1974 Green Eggs and Ham, 1960 This is included in "Book" 2, though irrelevant to scrund Happy Birthday to You, 1959 Hop on Pop, 1963 Horton Hatches the Egg, 1940 Horton Hears a Who, 1954 How the Grinch Stole Christmas, 1957 Hunches in Bunches, 1982 I Am Not Going to Get up Today!, 1987 I Can Draw It Myself: By Me, Myself with a Little Help from My Friend Dr. Seuss, 1970 I Can Lick Thirty Tigers Today & Other Stories, 1969 I Can Read with My Eyes Shut!, 1978 I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew, 1992 If I Ran the Circus, 1956 If I Ran the Zoo, 1950 King's Stilts, 1939 The Lorax, 1971 McElligot's Pool, 1947 Marvin K. Mooney, Will You Please Go Now, 1972 Mister Brown Can Moo, Can You, 1970 My Book About Me, 1969 Oh, Say Can You Say?, 1979 Oh, the Places You'll Go!, 1990 Oh! The Thinks You Can Think!, 1975 On Beyond Zebra, 1955 One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish, 1960 Scrambled Eggs Super!, 1953 The Seven Lady Godivas, 1987 Shape Of Me And Other Stuff, 1973 Sneetches And Other Stories, 1969 Two of these, including the titular story, were included in "Book" 2. However, The Sneetches is the relevant one, so I shall give you the prize, Noel. There's a Wocket in My Pocket! 1974 Thidwick, the Big-Hearted Moose, 1948 Wet Pet, Dry Pet, Your Pet, My Pet Yertle the Turtle & Other Stories, 1958 You're Only Old Once Hooray for Diffendoofer Day Which of the above books are involved? "The Sneetches" (from the videotape "Dr. Seuss on the Loose", accompanied by "The Zax" and "Green Eggs and Ham") and the video of "The Butter Battle Book" are the relevant tales. I watched them as a child and realized that 1) it does not matter whether one looks different from another, we are all the same regardless, and 2) fighting over lifestyles is an extremely stupid thing to do and only gets one into trouble (though the Butter Battle Book was essentially about the arms race, a little girl wasn't about to realize that, and I applied the lesson differently, though equally relevantly I hope) When I was 15 years old, I retroactively applied the Butter Battle Book's lesson to my long-deceased "Uncle" Mitchell, who had died from AIDS, while also applying it to my friends Kenandra and Katie, a lesbian couple who were also of non-Christian faiths. Kenandra also happened to be black. In short, they were the kind of people my father would have hated me to hang out with...but they were the truest friends I ever had during high school, and in fact encouraged me to stick with my Christian beliefs and not to turn from them. Obviously, it's what's on the INSIDE that counts...a lesson that Dr. Theodore Seuss Geisel began imparting to me a decade prior, and I am always going to be thankful. That, then, is the ***SPOILER***! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7595 Registered: 4-2010 |
Awesome puzzle, and awesome lesson! And how did I forget Green Eggs and Ham? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1078 Registered: 9-2010 |
Thanks! I do not know how you forgot Green Eggs and Ham, but it was only relevant in leading up to The Sneetches. *grin* | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 457 Registered: 8-2010 |
FYI, it's "Theodor." | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1389 Registered: 9-2010 |
Thanks, Whirligig. Sorry for the error; but then, to err is human. |
