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A combination neologism and theory puzzle....

My English teacher related to me (and my class) the "First Rule of Loirpsing." What does the verb "to loirpse" mean, and what is the rule?
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Buttercup, don't break my heart? All right, probably wrong kind of puzzle.

Does Loirpsing have anything to do with:
Writing? If so:
- Reports?
- Essays?
- Projects of some other sort?

Reading? If so:
- Textbooks?
- Assigned reading?

Researching?
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Buttercup, don't break my heart? All right, probably wrong kind of puzzle. Well, the title is relevant, and it does refer to the next word in the song....

Does Loirpsing have anything to do with:
Writing? If so:
- Reports?
- Essays?
- Projects of some other sort?

Reading? If so:
- Textbooks?
- Assigned reading?

Researching?

No to all - this has nothing to do with his job as an English teacher.
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Are flowers relevant? or measuring cups of butter?
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Is it relevant that loirpse has an anagram, whose name we must not speak?
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baby?
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Are flowers relevant? or measuring cups of butter? Neither

Is it relevant that loirpse has an anagram, whose name we must not speak? No, but is how I came up with the word - couldn't come up with anything else.

baby? No
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Was he giving real advice? Or was he only joking?

Is school relevant at all? Is carreer?
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Was he giving real advice? Or was he only joking? Both, really - it's a humorous bit of advice that makes perfectly logical sense.

Is school relevant at all? No Is carreer? Yope, in that it only applies to one particular profession.
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Cooking? With butter? Margarine? Cholestorol? Fat? Heart attacks? Dying? Getting fat? Really fat? Having a blood pressure of 160 over 111? Weighing 400 pounds because you eat a cup of butter every day? Oh, since I just made a Capitol Steps reference in another puzzle, is "I Wrecked My Heart on Spam and Crisco" relevant?
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Cooking? With butter? Margarine? Cholestorol? Fat? Heart attacks? Dying? Getting fat? Really fat? Having a blood pressure of 160 over 111? Weighing 400 pounds because you eat a cup of butter every day? No to all - think about how "Buttercup" is used in the song.

Oh, since I just made a Capitol Steps reference in another puzzle, is "I Wrecked My Heart on Spam and Crisco" relevant? Not one bit, as long as you don't try to negate those two by drinking lots of Diet Koch. (Couldn't resist....)
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Are The Foundations relevant?
"Buttercup" = a woman? The singer's girlfriend? Lover?
Diet Coke relevant, since you couldn't resist it? Cherry Coke? Mr. Coke? Mr. Koch? Mr. Kotch?
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The first rule of dumping one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is ...

... if it's a few days before your birthday, always wait for your present first?
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Are The Foundations relevant? No
"Buttercup" = a woman? Yes - fictional and HAF, in this puzzle. The singer's girlfriend? Lover? Neither, though she is a girlfriend/lover in the work of fiction she is from (which should be quite obvious now).
Diet Coke relevant, since you couldn't resist it? Cherry Coke? Mr. Coke? Mr. Koch? Mr. Kotch? No to all - neither Koch nor Coke is relevant.

The first rule of dumping one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is ... No

... if it's a few days before your birthday, always wait for your present first? No, although I do know a case where this occurred right before Christmas. That person was steamed....
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The Princess Bride?

"Inconceivable!" "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."?

"Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"?
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The Princess Bride? ...is VERY MUCH relevant!

"Inconceivable!" "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."?

"Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"?

"Have fun stormin' da castle!"

"Think it'll work?"

"It would take a miracle. Bye!"
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Inigo Montoya? Domingo Montoya? "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."?
Count Rugen, the six-fingered man?

Fezzik? Andre the Giant?

Westley? Cary Elwes?
Buttercup? Robin Wright?
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Inigo Montoya? Domingo Montoya? "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."?
Count Rugen, the six-fingered man?

Fezzik? Andre the Giant?

Westley? Cary Elwes?
Buttercup? Robin Wright?

Hmmm...one specific scene from the movie is relevant, and it involves Buttercup and two characters you did not mention. No to rest.
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Vizzini? Humperdink? (I'm sure I spelled his name wrong, but who cares, you know who I mean)

Mad Max? His wife?

Do the narrator/grandfather and grandson count, as they're not in the story?
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Vizzini? Humperdink? This, but none of the others mentioned. (I'm sure I spelled his name wrong, but who cares, you know who I mean)

Mad Max? His wife?

Do the narrator/grandfather and grandson count, as they're not in the story? Well, it's neither of them, so whether they count is irrel.
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Uh...the...crud, I can't remember. The executioner-Machine-guy?

By the way, the Giants won!!! Another shutout...Giants 4, Rangers 0. Now the overall tally of games is Giants 3, Rangers 1. *crosses fingers for tomorrow*
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The king? the queen? the old lady who boos in the dream sequences?
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Uh...the...crud, I can't remember. The executioner-Machine-guy?

The king? the queen? the old lady who boos in the dream sequences? No to all
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Hmm, I'm completely blanking on his name, but we seem to have skipped the bald guy who kidnaps her. Is it him?
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Hmm, I'm completely blanking on his name, but we seem to have skipped the bald guy who kidnaps her. Is it him? Not Vizzini either. To help, the character is just in one (quotable) scene.
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Is it that scene when Buttercup finds out the ships weren't really sent, and she gives Humperdink cinema's greatest verbal lashing of all time? That's certainly the opposite of building someone up, but...
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Is it that scene when Buttercup finds out the ships weren't really sent, and she gives Humperdink cinema's greatest verbal lashing of all time? That's certainly the opposite of building someone up, but... Nope - there's still one character involved that you haven't mentioned. Though that was indeed a truly epic verbal lashing.
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Okay, so, going by Wiki's character list, we have (I'll put characters in italics who've already been called irrelevant) :
Cary Elwes as Westley
Robin Wright as Buttercup
Chris Sarandon as Prince Humperdinck
Mandy Patinkin as Inigo Montoya
Christopher Guest as Count Tyrone Rugen
André the Giant as Fezzik
Wallace Shawn as Vizzini
Peter Falk as The Grandfather/Narrator
Fred Savage as The Grandson
Billy Crystal as Miracle Max
Carol Kane as Valerie, Max's wife
Margery Mason as The Ancient Booer, a woman in Buttercup's dreams who mocks her for giving up true love.
Mel Smith as The Albino, assistant torturer to Count Rugen


Peter Cook as The Impressive Clergyman, the clergyman at Humperdinck and Buttercup's wedding; he cannot pronounce his R's or L's and is forced to cut to the end of the ceremony proceedings by the prince.
Anne Dyson as The Queen, mother of Prince Humperdinck.
Malcolm Storry as Yellin, a soldier of Florin.
Willoughby Gray as The King, father of Prince Humperdinck
Betsy Brantley as The Mother
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(My money's on the apparently (Not-Very-)Impressive Clergyman)
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(My money's on the apparently (Not-Very-)Impressive Clergyman) Right on the money - the relevant scene is the wedding scene.

Now what does this have to do with loirpsing and the rule?
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Does loirpsing have to do with weddings? With wedding vows?

With relationships? With being too hasty in getting married? Getting involved with the wrong person? Throwing away true love?
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Does loirpsing have to do with weddings? This, No to rest. And I forgot to mention that the most relevant character in that scene is the Impressive Clergyman. With wedding vows? With relationships? With being too hasty in getting married? Getting involved with the wrong person? Throwing away true love?
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From Wikipedia: "The Impressive Clergyman, the clergyman at Humperdinck and Buttercup's wedding; he cannot pronounce his R's or L's and is forced to cut to the end of the ceremony proceedings by the prince."

Mispronunciation of vows relevant? Especially of R's or L's?

Being forced to cut to the end early relevant?
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Mispronunciation of vows relevant? Yope Especially of R's or L's? Again, Yope

Being forced to cut to the end early relevant? No. Remember that the rule applies to people who are loirpsing in real life. And only certain people loirpse (HINT).
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Accents relevant? Learning new languages? English as a second language? English speakers learning a different language?

Two nations divided by a common language (and the Atlantic Ocean)?
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Accents relevant? Learning new languages? English as a second language? English speakers learning a different language?

Two nations divided by a common language (and the Atlantic Ocean)? No to all. Remember, loirpsing involves weddings.
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Whoops - should be a Yope to accents. BLOOPER.
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BIG HINT: What is the Impressive Clergyman's role at the wedding?
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I can't remember, and Wiki just says "the clergyman." I can't find my copy of it to watch. I did find this on IMDb, which was fun, though unrelated:

"The giant rodents were created with diminutive actors inside rat suits. On the day Westley was supposed to battle the giant rat, the "rat actor" was pulled over for speeding and subsequently arrested, and actually had to be bailed out of jail by the filmmakers so the scene could be filmed." Oh, and the director voiced all the ROUS-es.
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Hmmm...rewording HINT (because this puzzle is fading): Why is there even a clergyman at the wedding in the first place?
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I suppose...to officiate? Really, I need to rewatch...*sighs* I can't even remember.
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I suppose...to officiate? Really, I need to rewatch...*sighs* I can't even remember. Exactly! "Loirpsing" is officiating a wedding.

Now what is the first rule of doing this? And it directly involves that scene....
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Never allow the ceremony to be rushed? Read the whole ceremony? Properly? Enunciate correctly? I remember the guy had a hard time pronouncing things...
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Never allow the ceremony to be rushed? No Read the whole ceremony? No Properly? No Enunciate correctly? Yope I remember the guy had a hard time pronouncing things... And that is relevant....
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hmmmm...the first rule of officiating a wedding is...always pronounce names correctly?
and if reading it don't read the part that says "note the spelling"...lol
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hmmmm...the first rule of officiating a wedding is...always pronounce names correctly?
and if reading it don't read the part that says "note the spelling"...lol Not exactly; the rule is very tongue-in-cheek. But this is close enough.

**********SPOILER**********

According to my high school English teacher, who is also an ordained minister, the first rule of officiating a wedding ("loirpsing", as I dubbed it) is this:

Never, ever, ever, watch The Princess Bride, especially the wedding scene, because if you do, you will want to start every wedding with "Mawwaige."

Excellent job to the Nield sisters, Kaylee and Tortie, for all the hard work.
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I went to a wedding a few weekends ago, and I can honestly say, I was waiting/hoping for the minister to say "Mawwaige" the entire time... so disappointed when he didn't.

Good puzzle Balin! Any puzzle involving TPB is, of course, inconceivable, so they tend to make good ones ;-)
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*falls off chair laughing* Well, that was unexpected to say the least! I officially love your English teacher's rules. :-P He must have been awesome.

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