| Author | Message | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1179 Registered: 5-2007 |
Just as well she forgot about the murderer. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1717 Registered: 9-2010 |
She = H/A/F? The murderer = H/A/M? H/A/F? Or was the murderer the banana? (re: Gourami's "Smooth Criminal") | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1718 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oh, and while I'm at it: Title relevant? "The faces of the grooms"...Marriage relevant? Multiple grooms? Was she engaged to multiple men? Or are these grooms such as one might find in a stable? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1180 Registered: 5-2007 |
She = H/A/F? all of those The murderer = H/A/M? this one H/A/F? Or was the murderer the banana? (re: Gourami's "Smooth Criminal") I am not quite sure I understand this, but no murders were committed by bananas in the course of this puzzle Oh, and while I'm at it: Title relevant? to the usual extent - that is, scarcely at all "The faces of the grooms"... Marriage relevant? no Multiple grooms? no Was she engaged to multiple men? no Or are these grooms such as one might find in a stable? yes, but this is completely irrelevant | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1719 Registered: 9-2010 |
just my attempt at humor, woubit. In Gourami's puzzle, "Smooth Criminal", we are assured that "it turned out the banana did it", i.e. committed the murder. As the events unfolded, it became clear that the banana's DNA was used to substitute for a "suspect's" DNA in a classroom's mock murder investigation; the suspect's DNA matched with the murderer's DNA which the teacher provided; therefore, it was quite clear the banana did it. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1720 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are the "she" (may we refer to her as Anna?) and the murderer (Jacob, perhaps?) related in any fashion? Married? Siblings? Parent/child? Dating? Friends? Other? Is Third Person (the murder victim) H/A/M? H/A/F? Is there more than one victim? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2422 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is this the Christmas puzzle? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1181 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are the "she" (may we refer to her as Anna?) and the murderer (Jacob, perhaps?) related in any fashion? no Married? Siblings? Parent/child? Dating? Friends? Other? Is Third Person (the murder victim) H/A/M? H/A/F? Is there more than one victim? which third person? Is this the Christmas puzzle? no - that will appear in December | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2423 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is she the victim of the murder? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3094 Registered: 1-2007 |
Has he actually killed someone ? or is he a murderer in a party game situation? Is the murder method relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8809 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the victim H? A? M? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1183 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is she the victim of the murder? no Has he actually killed someone ? yope or is he a murderer in a party game situation? no Is the murder method relevant? not really Is the victim H? A? M? yope | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2425 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the murderer a real person? A fictional person? Had she remembered about the murderer, would she have met a sticky end? Did she ever meet the murderer, at any point before the puzzle scenario? Was she asked to remember the name of a murderer in a quiz, or something similar? Is 'the murderer' someone infamous? Or is there a wordplay going on? For instance, a man called Sparrow, whose name suggests he killed Cock Robin? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1184 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is the murderer a real person? no A fictional person? yes Had she remembered about the murderer, would she have met a sticky end? no Did she ever meet the murderer, at any point before the puzzle scenario? no Was she asked to remember the name of a murderer in a quiz, or something similar? no Is 'the murderer' someone infamous? yes Or is there a wordplay going on? For instance, a man called Sparrow, whose name suggests he killed Cock Robin? nothing of this kind | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8812 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a murder victim at all? If so, a real person? A fictional person? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1185 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is there a murder victim at all? yope If so, a real person? no A fictional person? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8817 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the victim actually murdered? Actually, physically killed? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1186 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is the victim actually murdered? yope Actually, physically killed? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8824 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the victim become a zombie? Or some other creature? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1188 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does the victim FA become a zombie? Or some other creature? nothing of this kind | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1729 Registered: 9-2010 |
So the murderer, who is fictional, and the woman, who isn't? (Or is she?) have never met. If she's not fictional, I can see why, lol. If she is, are they from the same work of fiction? Is he from a: Book? Movie? Play? Opera? Poem? Other? If she is fictional and not from the same work, is the one he is from referenced in the one she is from? (The same list of fictional types applies) | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1189 Registered: 5-2007 |
So the murderer, who is fictional, and the woman, who isn't? yes (Or is she?) have never met. they have not If she's not fictional, I can see why, lol. If she is, are they from the same work of fiction? Is he from a: Book? Movie? Play? Opera? this one Poem? Other? If she is fictional and not from the same work, is the one he is from referenced in the one she is from? (The same list of fictional types applies) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1731 Registered: 9-2010 |
So the murderer killed someone in an opera? Was the woman acting out a part in the opera? Watching the opera being performed? Did she write this opera? Review it in a newspaper or some other publication? Wagner relevant? The Ring Cycle? Your recent pencil puzzle relevant? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1190 Registered: 5-2007 |
So the murderer killed someone yope in an opera? yes Was the woman acting out a part in the opera? no Watching the opera being performed? no Did she write this opera? no Review it in a newspaper or some other publication? no Wagner relevant? no The Ring Cycle? no Your recent pencil puzzle relevant? no | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2436 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the murderer kill someone who later came back from the dead? Perhaps in a statuesque fashion? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1732 Registered: 9-2010 |
The murderer acted out the murder of someone in an opera (which is what I meant...I ought to be more specific in woubit puzzles)? Was the "murder victim" H/A/M? H/A/F? Was there more than one? Was the woman intending to see the opera, and forgot to go? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8828 Registered: 4-2010 |
Opera: Don Giovanni? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2440 Registered: 3-2006 |
Or (another tack) perhaps she is a singer in the Threepenny Opera? Perhaps forgetting the back-story to Mack The Knife (for whatever reason)? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1191 Registered: 5-2007 |
Did the murderer kill someone who later came back from the dead? Perhaps in a statuesque fashion? no The murderer acted out the murder of someone in an opera the murderer was a character in an opera, yes - however, he does not murder anyone in the course of the drama (which is what I meant...I ought to be more specific in woubit puzzles)? Was the "murder victim" H/A/M? H/A/F? Was there more than one? indeed there was, or so it is alleged; the murderer had a number of victims of both genders, hence previous "FA" and "yope" answers Was the woman intending to see the opera, and forgot to go? no Opera: Don Giovanni? no - not at all a bad shot by both you and Woodworm, but the killing of the Commendatore in Don Giovanni is the result of a duel, and therefore not technically a murder. However... Or (another tack) perhaps she is a singer in the Threepenny Opera? ...well, not exactly, but this is very much in the right forest - almost the right tree Perhaps forgetting the back-story to Mack The Knife (for whatever reason)? the reason is not clear, but this is almost exactly what she did | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2443 Registered: 3-2006 |
So Macheath is the murderer in question? She isn't Lotte Lenya, is she? Is she a famous singer of Mack the Knife? Ella Fitzgerald, maybe? (Ah, so many singers have done this one that it's hard to know where to start.) Does the puzzle strictly require that we find out her identity? Or can we get the gist by lateral means? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1192 Registered: 5-2007 |
So Macheath is the murderer in question? indeed She isn't Lotte Lenya, is she? no Is she a famous singer of Mack the Knife? yes Ella Fitzgerald, maybe? absolutely (Ah, so many singers have done this one that it's hard to know where to start.) Does the puzzle strictly require that we find out her identity? you have done so Or can we get the gist by lateral means? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8832 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is her Memorex commercial relevant? (That's pretty much the only thing I know about Ella Fitzgerald.) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1736 Registered: 9-2010 |
And, as with so many woubit puzzles, this has gone right into territory I know absolutely nothing about. Oh well, lol. :-) | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1193 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is her Memorex commercial relevant? no (That's pretty much the only thing I know about Ella Fitzgerald.) the information you require is readily available via the usual sources | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2450 Registered: 3-2006 |
I'm listening to the Live in Berlin 1960 version as I type. Is it this? She forgets the entire lyric at about two minutes in, and apologises to Louis Armstrong for wrecking the song. Hey, it's good enough for jazz. And more key changes than an entire evening of Eurovision. If this is it, do we then need to work out why it was 'just as well'? Did this recording win an award, or such? Or perhaps it was a turning point in her career? The title is Macbeth, isn't it? Some sort of wordplay on Macbeth/Macheath? She doesn't actually call him 'Macbeth', does she? (That would certainly be funny.) | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1196 Registered: 5-2007 |
I'm listening to the Live in Berlin 1960 version as I type. Is it this? indeed it is - well done. ***** SPOILER ***** You can hear the song to which Woodworm refers here. She forgets the entire lyric at about two minutes in, and apologises to Louis Armstrong for wrecking the song. Hey, it's good enough for jazz. And more key changes than an entire evening of Eurovision. well, it was not supposed to be easy - at least, the tune was not. The words, on the other hand... If this is it, do we then need to work out why it was 'just as well'? Did this recording win an award, or such? Or perhaps it was a turning point in her career? Fitzgerald did, as Woodworm says, completely forget the words half way through the song. So brilliantly did she improvise, though, that her performance won a Grammy Award - of which Brecht would entirely have approved had he lived to see it, but he died in 1956. The title is Macbeth, isn't it? Some sort of wordplay on Macbeth/Macheath? She doesn't actually call him 'Macbeth', does she? (That would certainly be funny.) despite obvious similarities in their names, Macheath was not based on Macbeth - but the title that I chose is indeed from Shakespeare's play, for spotting which Woodworm is credited with several bonus marks. My last couple of puzzles have been in the nature of warming up for the 2010 woubit Christmas puzzle, which judging by the skills exhibited by all and sundry will have to be the toughest one yet. Be assured that I will introduce it in recognizable fashion - if I post another between now and the beginning of December, it won't be the Christmas puzzle. |
