| Author | Message | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2462 Registered: 3-2006 |
While idly marisiing, as one does at this time of year, I exclaimed: 'What a twerp'! Why so? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9003 Registered: 4-2010 |
Marisiing - Peter's semi-recent neologism? I = you (Woodworm)? Was your explanation to a person? About a person? "Twerp" - H? A? M? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3132 Registered: 1-2007 |
Longshot this but is the town of Antwerp relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2463 Registered: 3-2006 |
Marisiing - Peter's semi-recent neologism? yes I = you (Woodworm)? yes Was your explanation to a person? About a person? this one "Twerp" - H? A? M? presumably a human adult, gender irrelevant Longshot this but is the town of Antwerp relevant? YES! Very much so. It's nice when a longshot hits the target. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9015 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was your exclamation a pun on the town? Did it refer to a person from the town? A notable one? The weather in Antwerp relevant? Was it better weather there than where you live? Worse? Much better? Much worse? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2464 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was your exclamation a pun on the town? yes Did it refer to a person from the town? no A notable one? no The weather in Antwerp relevant? yes Was it better weather there than where you live? noWorse? actually slightly worse: it's going to be very cold in Antwerp for the next few days. Much better? Much worse? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9022 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you expressing exasperation at how cold it's going to be in Antwerp? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9023 Registered: 4-2010 |
Related to that, are you planning to be in Antwerp over any part of the cold stretch? If so, were you expressing exasperation that you would have to be in the town while it was very cold there? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2465 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you expressing exasperation at how cold it's going to be in Antwerp? no Related to that, are you planning to be in Antwerp over any part of the cold stretch? yes, I have a trip booked in a couple of weeks If so, were you expressing exasperation that you would have to be in the town while it was very cold there? no, it should be rather a good place to be when it's cold ... and the beer will keep me warm | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9025 Registered: 4-2010 |
Will it be cold when you are in Antwerp? Any of your exact plans for your stay in Antwerp relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2466 Registered: 3-2006 |
Will it be cold when you are in Antwerp? I don't know! I'm off in a couple of weeks, which is why marisiing right now is pointless. But Peter's puzzle made me relieved to know that I'm not alone. Any of your exact plans for your stay in Antwerp relevant? not at all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9028 Registered: 4-2010 |
Distance from your home to Antwerp relevant? Relevant what the weather services predict the weather will be like in Antwerp over your visit? Have the forecasts been constantly changing? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2467 Registered: 3-2006 |
Distance from your home to Antwerp relevant? no Relevant what the weather services predict the weather will be like in Antwerp yes over your visit? but not necessarily this Have the forecasts been constantly changing? no-ish: this is OTRT | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9052 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant what the forecast for Antwerp is...now? Over the next few days? Nights? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2468 Registered: 3-2006 |
Relevant what the forecast for Antwerp is...now? Over the next few days? Nights? yes, all of these | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9067 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was your exclamation directed at the weather forecasters? The weather itself? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2469 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was your exclamation directed at the weather forecasters? this one The weather itself? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9079 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they keep changing the forecast? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2470 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did they keep changing the forecast? no, but this is in the right forest | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3135 Registered: 1-2007 |
Given that an twerp would be grammatically incorrect Is the pun along the lines of "That forcaster's not an twerp he's a idiot." | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2471 Registered: 3-2006 |
Given that an twerp would be grammatically incorrect Is the pun along the lines of "That forcaster's not an twerp he's a idiot." Hehe. You got the twerp/Antwerp thing. All that remains is to discover what was strange about the weather forecast for Antwerp, compared with other weather forecasts. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9116 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it drastically different from the surrounding areas? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2473 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was it drastically different from the surrounding areas? no, but again on the right lines ... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9148 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the weather coldest in Antwerp? Colder than the surrounding areas? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2480 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the weather coldest in Antwerp? possibly, but this wouldn't in itself have been remarkable Colder than the surrounding areas? No, but you're right to think comparatively in this way. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9207 Registered: 4-2010 |
Compared...to your current location? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2482 Registered: 3-2006 |
Compared...to your current location? no, not this | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9225 Registered: 4-2010 |
Compared to itself just a short while ago? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2484 Registered: 3-2006 |
Compared to itself just a short while ago? not this either: it is uncommonly chilly in most of Western Europe right now, but none of the above would be especially remarkable or twerpish ... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9229 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is any other part of the weather relevant? Is it snowing? Raining? Other precipitation-ing? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2486 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is any other part of the weather relevant? Is it snowing? Raining? Other precipitation-ing? all irrelevant and getting colder, I'm afraid | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9266 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this a record low for this location? At this time of year? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1056 Registered: 9-2009 |
The weather forecast is related to the weather in Anvers as compared to weather in some other location(s), correct? If so: is it relevant in what language you read or listened to the forecast? Is it relevant how the weather is there anyway? The comparison is done with one other location or with multiple ones? Is it relevant in what country the related location(s) is (are)? Did the forecast said something that might be perceived as highly unlikey, bordering stupidity (in Anvers this December will be twice as hot as in Casablanca)? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2487 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is this a record low for this location? At this time of year? possibly: it's certainly very, very cold ... but irrelevant The weather forecast is related to the weather in Anvers as compared to weather in some other location(s), correct? yope If so: is it relevant in what language you read or listened to the forecast? no, it was an English language site, but ... Is it relevant how the weather is there anyway? not in the slightest: vgq The comparison is done with one other location or with multiple ones? one other, I guess, but it's hard to answer, as you'll see Is it relevant in what country the related location(s) is (are)? yes Did the forecast said something that might be perceived as highly unlikey, bordering stupidity (in Anvers this December will be twice as hot as in Casablanca)? not this kind of thing, which would indeed be rather odd | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9297 Registered: 4-2010 |
Have the forecasts for the area been consistently correct? Consistenly incorrect? Consistently inconsistent? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2488 Registered: 3-2006 |
Have the forecasts for the area been consistently correct? Consistenly incorrect? Consistently inconsistent? Not sure: I've never visited Antwerp before, so I've never had cause to marisi. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1060 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are there differences between Celsius and Fahrenheit degrees relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2489 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are there differences between Celsius and Fahrenheit degrees relevant? not at all, I'm afraid | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3148 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with the symbols used to denote clouds, rain , snow etc? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2490 Registered: 3-2006 |
Anything to do with the symbols used to denote clouds, rain , snow etc? no, but a nice idea | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3151 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is there some specific aspect of the weather forecast that's relevant? Temperature? precipitation? wind speed? wind chill? Are the windspeeds in KM/H rather than M/PH? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2491 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there some specific aspect of the weather forecast that's relevant? Temperature? this one precipitation? wind speed? wind chill? but in theory it could apply to any of those, and it isn't really relevant Are the windspeeds in KM/H rather than M/PH? in fact, I didn't look at the windspeeds | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9308 Registered: 4-2010 |
What the temperature is? What it feels like? Did you look at the Celsius temperature? Fahrenheit? Kelvin? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2492 Registered: 3-2006 |
What the temperature is? It's cold! What it feels like? Do you mean 'is this relevant'? Not really, I'm afraid. Did you look at the Celsius temperature? this one Fahrenheit? Kelvin? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9321 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant what the exact temperature is? Will be? Is forecasted to be? Is the temperature below zero? Is it forecasted to be that way? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2494 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant what the exact temperature is? Will be? Is forecasted to be? Is the temperature below zero? Is it forecasted to be that way? all irrelevant, I'm afraid | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9332 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the site take a long time to load? Did it freeze up? Did you think (satirically) "it's so cold there, even the internet is freezing"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2496 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the site take a long time to load? Did it freeze up? Did you think (satirically) "it's so cold there, even the internet is freezing"? none of the above, I'm afraid | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9346 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is anything about the website, other than its weather-ness, relevant? Would it be uncouth to request a recap? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2497 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is anything about the website, other than its weather-ness, relevant? not really: it is the BBC's website Would it be uncouth to request a recap? not at all: I'm planning a trip to Antwerp in a week's time. Last week, I went to the BBC's website to check the weather (pointless, I know, so far in advance). For some reason, I made a comment on the twerpishness of the weather forecasters. Why so? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9356 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the forecasters themselves "appear" on the site? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2499 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the forecasters themselves "appear" on the site? no | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1069 Registered: 9-2009 |
The other relevant location is situated in : UK? Belgium? The Netherlands? France? Germany? Elsewhere in Europe? Outside Europe? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2500 Registered: 3-2006 |
The other relevant location is situated in : UK? Belgium? The Netherlands? France? Germany? Elsewhere in Europe? Outside Europe? Perhaps an FA here, but the only relevant country is Belgium. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9360 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is another city in Belgium relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2501 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is another city in Belgium relevant? noish | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1857 Registered: 9-2010 |
Town in Belgium? Region in Belgium? Location in Belgium that doesn't fit either description? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2503 Registered: 3-2006 |
Town in Belgium? there is a relevant city in Belgium, certainly Region in Belgium? and it could also be this Location in Belgium that doesn't fit either description? but not this These are so hard to answer, as will become clear. This puzzle was so close to being solved! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9365 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK, let's try and clear things up to make solving this easier: Antwerp is relevant, as is the temperature/forecast. Correct? Is any other location in Belgium relevant? The capital city? Were the forecasters Belgian? From Antwerp? Did they seem that way? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2505 Registered: 3-2006 |
OK, let's try and clear things up to make solving this easier: Antwerp is relevant, as is the temperature/forecast. Correct? yes indeed Is any other location in Belgium relevant? no, but ... The capital city? Brussels? No. They are all too busy getting the sprouts ready for Christmas. Were the forecasters Belgian? I don't know From Antwerp? very very unlikely Did they seem that way? actually, I suspected otherwise. I doubt that any native of Antwerp would be so (apparently) twerpish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9370 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is any location outside of Belgium relevant? Is the forecast for the time you are going to be there relevant? The forecast for any other time? Will the weather be warmer during the times you are not there? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2506 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is any location outside of Belgium relevant? not in the slightest Is the forecast for the time you are going to be there relevant? no: the same idea could apply to any date, in fact The forecast for any other time? likewise Will the weather be warmer during the times you are not there? if you believe Murphy's Law, then yes ... of course! But it is not relevant. You were so close to solving this a while ago. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9373 Registered: 4-2010 |
*tries to backtrack* Is the weather going to be the coldest in Antwerp while you are there, as compared to other locations? Another specific location? Your current location? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2507 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the weather going to be the coldest in Antwerp while you are there, as compared to other locations? not necessarily the coldest, no. Another specific location? not as such, no, but ... Your current location? no, this is irrelevant. HINT: suss out what it is being compared with, and you're sorted! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2508 Registered: 3-2006 |
Oops, the old white-on-grey problem there ;-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9376 Registered: 4-2010 |
Compared with...other weather? Past weather? Present? Future forecasted? The weather at the same time last year? The weather from your last trip to Antwerp? Have you, in fact, been to Antwerp before? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2510 Registered: 3-2006 |
Compared with...other weather? no Past weather? no Present? no Future forecasted? yes: the weather on the same day The weather at the same time last year? noThe weather from your last trip to Antwerp? no Have you, in fact, been to Antwerp before? no! which is partly why I'm looking forward to it | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9379 Registered: 4-2010 |
So it's being a twerp because on a trip you're looking forward to, the weather will be COLD? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2511 Registered: 3-2006 |
So it's being a twerp because on a trip you're looking forward to, the weather will be COLD? no, nothing like that | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9381 Registered: 4-2010 |
Has the forecast been changed for that day? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2512 Registered: 3-2006 |
Has the forecast been changed for that day? nope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9383 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the only relevant forecast the forecast for Antwerp on that day? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2513 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the only relevant forecast the forecast for Antwerp on that day? no: there is one other relevant forecast | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9390 Registered: 4-2010 |
The forecast for another location? For another time? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2514 Registered: 3-2006 |
The forecast for another location? no ... For another time? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9397 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the other forecast also for Antwerp? Are there two different forecasts for Antwerp, same time? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2517 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the other forecast also for Antwerp? yes-ish: explore a little more and you're there Are there two different forecasts for Antwerp, same time? yesish or yope: see above | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9418 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the two forecasts being given by the same forecaster? The same website? Are they being given at the same time? And yet they predict totally different weather? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1075 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is one forecast for Anvers the city proper and one for the region Anvers is situated in, yet the forecasts are blatantly different? Or maybe for one very close town or village? Were both forecasts for the same time of day? Maybe one of them shows warm nights and cold days, while one would normally expect the reverse to be true? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1076 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is one forecast for Anvers the city proper and one for the region Anvers is situated in, yet the forecasts are blatantly different? Or maybe for one very close town or village? Were both forecasts for the same time of day? Maybe one of them shows warm nights and cold days, while one would normally expect the reverse to be true? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2519 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are the two forecasts being given by the same forecaster? The same website? yes Are they being given at the same time? yes And yet they predict totally different weather? yes, or least a significant discrepancy Is one forecast for Anvers the city proper and one for the region Anvers is situated in, yet the forecasts are blatantly different? this may well be one explanation, but it certainly isn't how it seemed Or maybe for one very close town or village? not this Were both forecasts for the same time of day? yes Maybe one of them shows warm nights and cold days, while one would normally expect the reverse to be true? nothing like this ... and you're all very, very close to the answer! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9464 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is one of them for the town? And the other is not? Did it seem like there were two contradictory forecasts for a certain place/time? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2520 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is one of them for the town? for Antwerp, yes ... And the other is not? this is the sort of question for which 'yope' was invented Did it seem like there were two contradictory forecasts for a certain place/time? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9481 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a second town or place called Antwerp? And the second forecast was for that? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2521 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there a second town or place called Antwerp? no, but very much in the right forest and barking up the right tree, if indeed one can bark up the right tree And the second forecast was for that? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9501 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the second forecast for a place with a name similar to Antwerp? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2522 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the second forecast for a place with a name similar to Antwerp? Well, yes: you see, the BBC said that Antwerp was going to be three degrees colder than ... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9507 Registered: 4-2010 |
...than Antwerp? Than Anvers? Than somewhere with a similar-looking or -sounding name? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2523 Registered: 3-2006 |
...than Antwerp? Than Anvers? YES! Indeed. The city is apparently going to be colder than itself. Or at least, good enough for: **** SPOILER **** Belgium's second city has at least three names: Antwerp (if you're British), Antwerpen (if you speak Dutch/Flemish) and Anvers (if you speak French). I'm planning to go there at the end of the week, so I checked the BBC weather forecast for Antwerp, and it turns out that it is going to be three degrees colder than in Antwerpen. Which struck me as, well, just a little bit silly. And Walloons obviously don't visit the BBC website, because Anvers wasn't recognised at all :-) Of course, I may have misunderstood the whole thing, in which case the twerpitude is on me. Well done Balin. Treat yourself to another slice of cake/gateau/koeken. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1081 Registered: 9-2009 |
Haha, another great one woodworm! I just realized that I was using Anvers all the time, while you were using Antwerp, but never thought of that... Have a pleasant stay there and try only beer or bier, as biere will get you nothing :-) |
