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They weren't in the first time, because He didn't know about them yet.
They were in the second time He gave us, and when he brought them to us, their popularity spread like wildfire.
Now they'll be put in the first one, for absence of mention does not negate possible witness for one of the two at least.
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In the spirit of my birthday, possible $poyler emailed.
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Possible $poyler completely wrong. *grin* Keep trying, my friend.
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All "he"s the same? He = H? A? M?

LTPF relevant?
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All "he"s the same? Nope...two different ones.
He = H? A? M? He is H/A/M (as is he, who is different).

LTPF relevant? Noish. Don't focus too much on the LTPF...you can find the entirety of the puzzle out without trying for the very vague connection.
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Am I either of the "he"s?
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Am I either of the "he"s? You aren't. And the "they" is different from either He or he.
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The first in, is that in litereley, e.g. the spider is in the mout?
or in as in "did you get in to the spider eating competition?
is them HAM?
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"They": objects? People? Ideas? Living things? Tangible things? Are all "they"s and "them"s the same?
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The first in, is that in litereley, e.g. the spider is in the mout?
or in as in "did you get in to the spider eating competition? Er...that's hard to answer.
is them HAM? They are not human, one is an adult female and one is a (questionably) adult male. But they are played by humans, H/A/M and H/A/F.
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"They": objects? People? Yesish Ideas? Living things? Living beings Tangible things? Well, WE can't touch them... Are all "they"s and "them"s the same? Yes, no to any unanswered
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Is a movie relevant? Any of the LOTR films? HP?
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Is a movie relevant? Very! Any of the LOTR films? Certainly they're vital to the answer HP?Go not to JKR for answers, for she has no power here
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is this to do with a movie?
Show?
Concet?
Play?
Conference?
Any video recorded event?
A private event?
Afree Event?
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is this to do with a movie? This, none of the others
Show?
Concet?
Play?
Conference?
Any video recorded event?
A private event?
Afree Event?
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LOTR film relevant: FOTR? TTT? ROTK?
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Does it have aliens?
Animals?
Ghosts?
Mithical Creatures (e.g. centures)
Things like vampires, warewolves etc.
Magical cratures (e.g. pixies)
Relegies related creatures (e.g. ghosts, agels)
Creatures like, yeti, bigfoot etc.
Any imposible creatures ?
Any died out creatures?
Any real creatureS?
Any sencient life forms (other than humans)
Any humans?
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LOTR film relevant: FOTR? TTT? ROTK? They all are, but the books are, too.

Does it have aliens?
Animals?
Ghosts?
Mithical Creatures (e.g. centures)
Things like vampires, warewolves etc.
Magical cratures (e.g. pixies)
Relegies related creatures (e.g. ghosts, agels)
Creatures like, yeti, bigfoot etc.
Any imposible creatures ?
Any died out creatures?
Any real creatureS?
Any sencient life forms (other than humans)
Any humans? The books are Tolkien's works, so the films have what they have, but it's irrelevant except for the two characters who are not human, but nor are they animals. They are Elves.
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did the puzle hapen in the movie?
or people wathcing the movie?
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did the puzle hapen in the movie? The puzzle does not have to do with *just* the LotR movies...although only Tolkien-based ones. Both these characters appeared over the course of the LotR trilogy, but...
or people wathcing the movie? People watching the movie are irrelevant.
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Is and of he's gandolf?
Is any of the he's a main character
is any of the he's evil?
is any of the he's a real person (e.g. tolkin)?
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is the first time the first movie\book?
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is the first time the first movie\book? The first book.
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What the hell, elves were in the first book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What the hell, elves were in the first book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course they were...and could you please not scream at me. I'm talking about two elves in particular...and by the first book, I do not mean Fellowship of the Ring.
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sorry bought the screaming.
oh you mean the Hobert?
So the second is the felowship?

Is and of he's gandolf?
Is any of the he's a main character
is any of the he's evil?
is any of the he's a real person (e.g. tolkin)?
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sorry bought the screaming. All right then.
oh you mean the Hobert? I do mean "The Hobbit"
So the second is the felowship? The Hobbit, the book, came out before The Lord of the Rings trilogy. As for the movies...

Is and of he's gandolf? Neither of the "he's" are Gandalf; he's not human, he's a Maia.
Is any of the he's a main character Neither of the "he's" are a character.
is any of the he's evil? Depends on who you ask, but not really.
is any of the he's a real person (e.g. tolkin)John Ronald Reuel Tolkien is "He", so who is "he", then??
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is j rr tolkein the first he?
is j rr tolkein the second he?
is j rr tolkein the third he?
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is j rr tolkein the first he?
is j rr tolkein the second he?
is j rr tolkein the third he?

JRR Tolkien is the capitalized "He". The lowercase "he" is someone else.

RECAP:

These two Elves weren't in The Hobbit, because JRR Tolkien didn't know about them yet.
They were in LotR, and when he (not Tolkien) brought them to us, their popularity spread like wildfire.
Now they'll be put in the first one, for absence of mention does not negate possible witness for one of the two at least.
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is he a real person?
is he from gondor?
is he from rohan?
is he in the hobet?
is he ever seen or encounted the one ring?
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is he a real person? he is a real person
is he from gondor? no
is he from rohan? no
is he in the hobet? he is not *in* "The Hobbit", but...
is he ever seen or encounted the one ring? you could say that, certainly, but he's not a fictional character
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has he got anything to do with the movies?

the hobit?
the books?
is he a livE?
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has he got anything to do with norse?
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has he got anything to do with the movies? oh yes definitely

the hobit? The Hobbit, yes
the books? Only in that films were made based on them
is he a livE? He is alive

has he got anything to do with norse? I'm afraid I don't understand this question
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i mean norse mitholagy
did he help produce the movie?
did he act in them?
did he have anythinng to do with tyhe hobite movie?
did he have anythinng to do with the lord of the rings?
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i mean norse mitholagy no, he has nothing to do with Norse mythology
did he help produce the movie? The Lord of the Rings? he's not the producer, but the...
did he act in them? no
did he have anythinng to do with tyhe hobite movie? he has quite a lot to do with the movie of The Hobbit that's coming out...
did he have anythinng to do with the lord of the rings? he most definitely did
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is his job in the lord of the rings the same as the hobit (e.g. directer in both)?
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is it Peter Robert Jackson?
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is his job in the lord of the rings the same as the hobit (e.g. directer in both)? yes!
is it Peter Robert Jackson? he is :-)

RECAP: These two Elves weren't in The Hobbit, because JRR Tolkien didn't know about them yet.
They were in LotR, and when Peter Jackson brought them to us in the LotR film trilogy, their popularity spread like wildfire.
Now they'll be put in The Hobbit films, for absence of mention does not negate possible witness for one of the two at least.

Almost there...who, exactly, are they, and which one had a likelier chance of showing up in the book?
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is one of the legolas?
arwin?
a forest elf?
a rivendel elf?
the elf king (arwins father)?
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is one of the legolas? Legolas is one.
arwin? Arwen, no, so far as I know.
a forest elf? Do you mean from Mirkwood, like Legolas? No, the other elf in the puzzle isn't from Mirkwood.
a rivendel elf? No, not Rivendell.
the elf king (arwins father)? Arwen's father, Elrond, actually was an important character in The Hobbit, so if he's in the movie that's expected. The other elf you want is female.
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did this elfe have a ring of power?
is the elf from Lothlórien?
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Galadriel?
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did this elfe have a ring of power?
is the elf from Lothlórien?
Galadriel? Yes, yes, and yes.

***SPOILER***
Legolas and Galadriel weren't in The Hobbit, because JRR Tolkien didn't know about them yet.
They were in LotR, and when Peter Jackson brought them to us in the LotR film trilogy, their popularity spread like wildfire.
Now they'll be put in The Hobbit films, for absence of mention does not negate possible witness for Legolas, at least. (He could very well have been at the Battle of Five Armies, where his father's army fought)
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WOW I SOLVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
orsome puzzle btw
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Awesome puzzle! Sorry I missed a good chunk of it.
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I'm glad you liked it. :-) I'm sorry too, Balin...should have expected not to keep you at your computer on your birthday.

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