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Well, here goes another one!

What links:

-a vacant expression,
-a human, and
-an old boulder?
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Vacant expression = blank?

Human = male? female? gender irrelevant? a particular human?

Old boulder = rock? a particular rock?
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Vacant expression = blank? yes, but not what I'm looking for

Human = male? female? gender irrelevant? this a particular human? yope to yesish

Old boulder = rock? a particular rock? yes to both
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Yope to yesish? oh boy...*is a stuck kaylee*

Erm...rocks...hmm...let's see...

Is it called "__ Rock"? And we have to fill in the blank?
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Is it called "__ Rock"? And we have to fill in the blank? no, it's "Rock ________" (the blank may be any number of words)
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Is it related with the Rocks in the easter island?
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Is it related with the Rocks in the easter island? no
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Do this rock have a shape of a human face? or is it related with the name of the rock? color?
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Rock of Ages? Rock solid? Rock of Gibraltar?

Human - a real person? Fictional? Someone on the LTPF?
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Do this rock have a shape of a human face? yope or is it related with the name of the rock? yes color? no

Rock of Ages? this Rock solid? Rock of Gibraltar?

Human - a real person? this, though some disagree Fictional? Someone on the LTPF? no
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Rock of Ages - Jesus? The hymn? The Def Leppard song?

Does the real person also refer to Jesus? Is the connection "Jesus"?
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Rock of Ages - Jesus? The hymn? this The Def Leppard song?

Does the real person also refer to Jesus? sort of Is the connection "Jesus"? but no
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Is the real person Jesus?

Any specific lyrics in the hymn relevant?
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Is the real person Jesus? yope

Any specific lyrics in the hymn relevant? no -- just to clarify in case there is more than one, we're talking about "there is no Rock, there is no God like ours," right?
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Well I'll be...there is more than one.

Real person - God?
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Well I'll be...there is more than one. I'm not exactly sure if I'd call the contemporary song a "hymn" per se, but who am I to judge that kind of thing?

Real person - God? yesish
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In case anybody still isn't sure which Rock of Ages I'm talking about: http://www.audiblefaith.com/pages/sg200517 (unless this is a different song with the exact same lyrics, which I highly doubt)
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Person - another of the Trinity? Father? Holy Spirit?

Vacant expression - is it a common expression? Blank stare?
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Person - another of the Trinity? Father? Holy Spirit? not exactly any in particular AFAIK

Vacant expression - is it a common expression? it's rather specific to a certain situation Blank stare? it could be this
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Staring off into space?
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Staring off into space? not this one
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Staring into the distance? Pondering something?
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Staring into the distance? no Pondering something? possibly
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Thinking deeply?
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Thinking deeply? probably, but not what I'm looking for
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Pensive? The Thinker?
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Pensive? The Thinker? no to both -- it has more to do with how you appear
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You appear...dazed?
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vacant expression = a poker face?
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You appear...dazed? no

vacant expression = a poker face? yes, THIS is what I'm looking for
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clever tortiesibling!
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first thing I thought of when seeing "a harmonious connection" and "a vacant expression" was Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" any relevence?
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first thing I thought of when seeing "a harmonious connection" and "a vacant expression" was Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" any relevence? yes, the Lady Gaga song is exactly where I was going with this

So we have:
-"Rock of Ages"
-"Poker Face"
-Something about a human, referring to God

Now they're all songs, so is there a song that fits the last one? What are humans?
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God's children?
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God's children? not really -- WHO are they?
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God's creatures? God's creation? Made in the image of God?

Is the song a hymn? Rock song? Pop? [LTPF list of music genres]?
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God's creatures? God's creation? Made in the image of God? don't think along religious lines, just think -- on a basic level, what's the main thing you know about humans?

Is the song a hymn? Rock song? Pop? [LTPF list of music genres]? Wikipedia says rock and CCM.
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They're alive? They're people? There are all sorts of them?
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They're alive? They're people? There are all sorts of them? Even more basic than any of these.
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They exist?
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They exist? less basic than that -- you're missing a basic fact
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They die?
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They die? more basic
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I am one of them?
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I am one of them? not just you, but ...
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...so are you? And so are all the other people?
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...so are you? And so are all the other people? yes, now connect that to the idea of God being human
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"One of Us"?
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"One of Us"? yes!

So the three songs are:

"Poker Face"
"One of Us"
"Rock of Ages"

Now the connection is going to be a bit tricky. They're all songs, yes, but there's more to it than that.
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Topic of the songs relevant? Artists? Writers? Other musicians? Albums the songs were on?
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Topic of the songs relevant? Artists? Writers? Other musicians? Albums the songs were on? none
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Something about the lyrics relevant? The titles?
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Something about the lyrics relevant? The titles? neither
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Something about the tune of the song? The chord structure? Melody? Key? Time signature?
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Something about the tune of the song? The chord structure? this -- do you want to figure out exactly how, or should I $poil? Melody? Key? Time signature?
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Do the songs have the same chord structure? Are they all 4-chord songs?
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Do the songs have the same chord structure? Are they all 4-chord songs? Sort of. I'll $poil if you can tell me the specific progression and where it occurs.
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In the chorus? The verse? The bridge?

Is it a typical E-Bm-C#m-A progression (or whatever key it actually is, just transposed)?
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In the chorus? yes The verse? The bridge?

Is it a typical E-Bm-C#m-A progression (or whatever key it actually is, just transposed)? it's not I-v-vi-IV, it's vi-IV-I-V, but this is close enough

**********SPOILER**********

The three clues all lead to songs:

-a vacant expression -- "Poker Face"
-a human -- "One of Us"
-an old boulder -- "Rock of Ages"

All three songs have the same chord progression in the chorus, known as the pop-punk or "sensitive female" chord progression.

Congrats to Balin for the solve, Tortie for a couple of lateral leaps, and Kaylee and Fandres for ... stuff. :P

My other puzzle (the rulebreaker) is still open, so check it out!
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glad to have helped with...stuff. Tortiesibling is a clever and lateral tortiesibling.
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On the subject of 4-chord songs, you'd likely enjoy this.
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glad I could be of some help, the rest of the puzzle was over my head. Congrats Balin!
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Also on chord progressions -- Pachelbel's Rant -- always quite amusing :-)
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huh... posted that before I watched the one you posted Balin. Turns out they're essentially talking about the same chord progression -- so the guy in my linky just adds more fuel to that fire :-) Which makes its influence on popular music, in TVTropes terms, "older than steam"!
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TVTropes! Yay! :-D *loves*
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I think I prefer the Pachelbel's Rant to the 4 Chord Song, but not by much; they're both totally awesome!

Yes, I have a musical geeky side to me as well.

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