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Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lisa asked Ben if he knew Chris. Ben answered "No - why should I?". What Lisa said then was surprising for Ben, although it's based on a rather common scrund.

What did Lisa say and what's the scrund?


Think of the three as teenagers, but it'd probably work with adults as well.
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Are Lisa and Ben related? Are Lisa and Chris related? if so: Siblings? Cousins? Friends? Dating?

Is the place they're from relevant? Germany? Some other country? Is it the present day? The past? LTPF list of centuries? Decades?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Are Lisa and Ben related? noish Are Lisa and Chris related? yes if so: Siblings? no Cousins? unlikely Friends? probably Dating? unlikely

Is the place they're from relevant? yes Germany? two of them Some other country? the thrid one Is it the present day? yes The past? LTPF list of centuries? Decades?
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 9:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok so...are Lisa and Chris, the two friends, both from Germany? And Ben is from some other country? or are Ben and either Lisa and Chris from Germany, and the other from somewhere else?

Is this a true story? Is Chris a famous person? Is Ben? Is Lisa?

"Some other country"...European? Bordering Germany? Or elsewhere in Europe? Another continent?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Ok so...are Lisa and Chris, the two friends, both from Germany? no And Ben is from some other country? no, he's from Germany or are Ben and either Lisa and Chris from Germany, and the other from somewhere else? yes, Ben and Chris are from Germany

Is this a true story? yes, it happened to several people I know Is Chris a famous person? Is Ben? Is Lisa? none of them is

"Some other country"...European? Bordering Germany? Or elsewhere in Europe? Another continent? this - America
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OK, so Ben and Chris are from Germany, and Lisa is from America; do you mean the United States? Or do you mean another country in either North or South America (since you answered my question about continent, not country, with "America")
Doriana (Doriana)
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OK, so Ben and Chris are from Germany, and Lisa is from America yes; do you mean the United States? yes Or do you mean another country in either North or South America no (since you answered my question about continent, not country, with "America")
Eli (Eli)
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Is it relevant what language they're speaking? If so, English? German? other?

Is German Ben and Chris' first language? Is English? Spanish? other Lisa's first language?
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Is Lisa from:
Alabama?
Alaska?
Arizona?
Arkansas?
California?
Colorado?
Connecticut?
Delaware?
Florida?
Georgia?
Hawaii?
Idaho?
Illinois?
Indiana?
Iowa?
Kansas?
Kentucky?
Louisiana?
Maine?
Maryland?
Massachusetts?
Michigan?
Minnesota?
Mississippi?
Missouri?
Montana?
Nebraska?
Nevada?
New Hampshire?
New Jersey?
New Mexico?
New York?
North Carolina?
North Dakota?
Ohio?
Oklahoma?
Oregon?
Pennsylvania?
Rhode Island?
South Carolina?
South Dakota?
Tennessee?
Texas?
Utah?
Vermont?
Virginia?
Washington?
Washington, D.C.?
West Virginia?
Wisconsin?
Wyoming?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is it relevant what language they're speaking? no If so, English? German? other? probably English

Is German Ben and Chris' first language? yes Is English? Spanish? other Lisa's first language? probably English

Is Lisa from probably irrel, but friends of mine who went to Kasas, Kentucky and Texas had similar experiences
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hmm, Kansas, Kentucky and Texas are three places I've never been to, lol.

Hint plz? kaylee kitteh iz losted!
Doriana (Doriana)
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hmm, Kansas, Kentucky and Texas are three places I've never been to, lol. well, the state is not relevant, could probably happen in California too

Hint plz? kaylee kitteh iz losted!
It's a scrund that some Americans seem to have about Germany
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hamburgers relevant? kaseburgerz? i can haz?

beer relevant?

chocolate relevant? Cake relevant? German chocolate cake (which iz nawt germin, which kaylee kitteh wuz unscrunded bout a wile agoez. iz named foar man lastnamez german)
Doriana (Doriana)
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hamburgers relevant? no kaseburgerz? no i can haz? {yuo iz awlwayz can haz käseburger!}

beer relevant? no

chocolate relevant? Cake relevant? German chocolate cake (which iz nawt germin, which kaylee kitteh wuz unscrunded bout a wile agoez. iz named foar man lastnamez german didn't know that either!) no to all

I'd rather call it a geographical scrund
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Geographical: is it about where a city/town in Germany is located? Is it about where a region of Germany is located? Anything to do with Hamburg? Kaseburg? =P (iz capitil uf gregory coke land germinee i thinkz)

Or is it about West and East Germany? Relevant that they were divided but now are not?

WWII relevant? Hitler and the concentration camps locations' relevant? Or WWI relevant?

Or, alternatively, is Germany's relative position to other countries relevant? Did they not know Germany was in Europe? (I'd say that was impossible, but considering my very own sibling thought *Wales* was in *Scotland*, and didn't know Scotland was attached to England...)

Holy Roman Empire relevant?
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Could this have happened if Ben and Chris had been from another country (outside the US)? Or will it only work with Germany?

Did she think they knew each other simply because they're both German?
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Does Ben and/or Christ live in a specific town in Germany? Is the scrund about Germany as a whole?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Geographical: is it about where a city/town in Germany is located? no Is it about where a region of Germany is located? no Anything to do with Hamburg? no Kaseburg? lol, no =P (iz capitil uf gregory coke land germinee i thinkz)

Or is it about West and East Germany? no Relevant that they were divided but now are not? no

WWII relevant? no Hitler and the concentration camps locations' relevant? no Or WWI relevant? no

Or, alternatively, is Germany's relative position to other countries relevant? no Did they not know Germany was in Europe? they did know (I'd say that was impossible, but considering my very own sibling thought *Wales* was in *Scotland*, and didn't know Scotland was attached to England...)

Holy Roman Empire relevant? no

Could this have happened if Ben and Chris had been from another country (outside the US)? Or will it only work with Germany? This probably works with all European countries

Did she think they knew each other simply because they're both German? yes! That's more or less it. What exactly is the scrund?

Does Ben and/or Christ live in a specific town in Germany? no Is the scrund about Germany as a whole? yes
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Is the scrund that she thought all Germans know each other personally?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is the scrund that she thought all Germans know each other personally? yesish. How does that relate to Germany's geography?
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Is the size of Germany relevant? Germany's cities? The countryside?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is the size of Germany relevant? this Germany's cities? The countryside?
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iz americun kittehz thinx germinee bigger than it iz? smallur?
Doriana (Doriana)
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iz americun kittehz thinx germinee bigger than it iz? smallur? this
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p.s. kaylee kitteh iz thinx germinee iz bout same siz az franse an spayn. iz? izn't?
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Do they think Germany is really small? The size of Monaco or Liechtenstein? So since it's so small everyone must be neighbours?
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p.s. kaylee kitteh iz thinx germinee iz bout same siz az franse an spayn. iz? izn't? iz a bit smallur tahn Franse an Spayn, but not cosidurablee. But teh relashun to othur Yoorupean countrees iz not impurtant, it'z rathur there saiz in jenrul
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wow that would be really tiny...if anyone had THAT as a scrund, I'd say they needed to check a map right away, Eli. =P
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Do they think Germany is really small? yesish The size of Monaco or Liechtenstein? not that small, but very small So since it's so small everyone must be neighbours? yesish, and that's close enough for the

********SPOILER********
Lisa said: "Because he's from Germany too!".

Lots of Americans think of European countries as incredibly small - which they are, compared to the USA. But although Germany is only the size of Montana, it has a population of 82,000,000 so that the odds are quite low that two random Germans know each other.


I thought it'd take you longer to figure that one out, but Kaylee's question if Germany is relevant brought you on the right track very fast - nice work, everyone! (:

I, on the other hand, always thought of the US as very densely populated and was very surprised that the population is only about 300,000,000.
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Well, there are areas that are crazy dense, but then we have entire stretches (and states - Montana or Alaska, anyone?) that have pretty sparse or zero population. Germany appears to have just about the same pop.density as Maryland (5th highest of the states, not including DC, which is just ridiculously off the charts). Of course, Americans and Europeans apparently have different concepts of personal space -- maybe that's got something to do with it.

Okay, just went and checked... Germany pop.density = 593 ppl/sq mile (229 /sq km) and US = 83 /sq mi (32 /sq km). Yeah, that IS a surprising overall number.

Of course, I can't really speak to the scrund, since I've lived over there (granted, mostly on military bases, but still...). Anywho, the </ramble> tag needs to start working now. Interesting puzzle, Doriana!! :-)

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