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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 5:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Sharpen that potato, soldier!"
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Potato - an edible plant? Or any other type of potato?
Soldier - H? A? M? His/her nationality relevant? If so: German?
Time and location relevant? Is it a wartime?
Is the puzzle sentence spoken by a soldier's commander?
Besides soldier and person speaking, any other people relevant?
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Sharpen: make pointier? Make an edge sharper? Focus on, optically? Sharpen as in image processing? Is the potato tangible? Relevant what is used to sharpen the potato? Is it actually a potato, or is it only referred to as such?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Schärfen, dass Kartoffel, Soldat!"


(Ist diese Übersetzung korrekt? Ich bin mit Google Translate. Darüber hinaus ist es relevant?)
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Potato - an edible plant? Yes. Or any other type of potato?
Soldier - H? A? M? Yes to all. His/her nationality relevant? Yes. If so: German? Yes.
Time and location relevant? Yes. Is it a wartime? Yes.
Is the puzzle sentence spoken by a soldier's commander? Yes.
Besides soldier and person speaking, any other people relevant? Yes.

Sharpen: make pointier? This. Make an edge sharper? Focus on, optically? Sharpen as in image processing? Is the potato tangible? Yes. Relevant what is used to sharpen the potato? No. Is it actually a potato, Yes. or is it only referred to as such?

"Schärfen, dass Kartoffel, Soldat!"


(Ist diese Übersetzung korrekt? Ich bin mit Google Translate. Darüber hinaus ist es relevant?)

Ja, um beide.
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Yes, to both? Vielen Dank, Jenburdoo. Pinguine sind überhaupt relevant? Haben sie wie Kartoffeln? Mögen Sie Kartoffeln? Haben deutsche Soldaten wie Kartoffeln? Ist es notwendig, die Kartoffeln zu geschärft werden? Als Waffen?
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Gah! I know no language other than English, I'm afraid...

Penguins are at all relevant? No. Do they like potatoes? Don't they eat fish? Do you like potatoes? Yes, but irr. Did German soldiers like potatoes? Irr. Is it necessary for the potatoes to be sharpened? Yes. As weapons? No.
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lol, me too...oh, and kitteh. But that was all Google Translate's work. :-D
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is this during wartime? WWI? WWII? something else?
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is this during wartime? WWI? This. WWII? something else?
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Are the potatoes sharpened to a point? An edge?
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Are the potatoes sharpened to a point? This. An edge?
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Are the potatoes only sharpened to one point? To two? More than two?
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Are the potatoes only sharpened to one point? Yes. To two? More than two?
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Will the sharpened potatoes be used for something relevant? Are they decoys? Otherwise part of a ruse? Could another vegetable have been used instead of a potato? If so, would it need to be potato-shaped? Could a carrot be used? Is the potato being made out to look like something else? Relevant how many potatoes the soldier will be sharpening? If so: 1? 2-5? 5-20? More than 20?Are there more soldiers than one sharpening potatoes?
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Location relevant? Germany? France? Front?

Are the potatoes intended for eating?
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Location relevant? Yes. Germany? France? This. Front? This.

Are the potatoes intended for eating? No.
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You missed Galfisk's questions...

Are the potatoes going to be stuck in the ground? Stuck into something? Used as spikes? Used as ammunition? Used to plug something?
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Used for medical purposes?

Are they raw? Cooked? Fried?
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Will the sharpened potatoes be used for something relevant? Yes. Are they decoys? No. Otherwise part of a ruse? Yes. Could another vegetable have been used instead of a potato? Possibly. If so, would it need to be potato-shaped? No. Could a carrot be used? Possibly. Is the potato being made out to look like something else? Yes. Relevant how many potatoes the soldier will be sharpening? Assume yes. If so: 1? Assume this. 2-5? 5-20? More than 20?Are there more soldiers than one sharpening potatoes? Yes.

Are the potatoes going to be stuck in the ground? No. Stuck into something? Not quite. Used as spikes? Yes. Used as ammunition? No. Used to plug something? No.

Used for medical purposes? No.

Are they raw? I'd assume this. Cooked? Fried?
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Are the potato spikes going to be used in a trap? A pit? A concealed pit?
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Are the potato spikes going to be used in a trap? A pit? A concealed pit? None of these. (Tries to imagine a "potato trap")
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*imagines someone building a giant fryer, putting oil in, burying it and someone falling into it, only to be covered by tons of potato spikes* ...Well, *that* was a cheerful image...)
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Well, a better German translation would be "Schärf diese Kartoffel, Soldat" or "Schärfen Sie diese Kartoffel, Soldat".

Is there a reason that the commander says "soldier" instead of either using the name and/or rank of the soldier ("Gefreiter Arsch" looks appropriate) or leaving it out entirely?

Do they need only one sharpened potato? Two? Three? 4-10? 10-100? More?

Do they want the enemy to see the sharpened potato(es)? And want them to think it's in fact something else?
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Is there a reason that the commander says "soldier" instead of either using the name and/or rank of the soldier ("Gefreiter Arsch" looks appropriate) or leaving it out entirely? Not really. "Soldier" or "Trooper" is a typical English convention when addressing a generic soldier.

Do they need only one sharpened potato? Two? Three? 4-10? 10-100? More? This.

Do they want the enemy to see the sharpened potato(es)? No. And want them to think it's in fact something else? But...
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So more than 100 soldiers are sharpening a potato each, correct?
Will they carry their own potatoes? Will the potatoes be put inside something relevant? Will they make it look like something else is inside? Will the enemy see the contour of the sharpened potato, but not the potato itself? Will the potato be carried into battle? Is the purpose of the ruse to: scare? Confuse? Intrigue? Mislead? Conceal?
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To what shape are the potatoes sharpened... are they conical? Or flat (like a knife)?

Did they want the enemy to feel the potatoes? From behind?
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So more than 100 soldiers are sharpening a potato each, correct? Yes.
Will they carry their own potatoes? Yesish. Will the potatoes be put inside something relevant? Yesish. Will they make it look like something else is inside? Yes. Will the enemy see the contour of the sharpened potato, but not the potato itself? Yes, FA. Will the potato be carried into battle? No. Is the purpose of the ruse to: scare? Confuse? Intrigue? Mislead? This. Conceal? This.

To what shape are the potatoes sharpened... are they conical? There are a few possibilities; for the purposes of this puzzle, assume yes. Or flat (like a knife)? No.

Did they want the enemy to feel the potatoes? No. From behind?
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Will something be put inside the potatoes? The thing the potatoes will yesishly be put inside, is it made from fabric? Is it clothing? A weapon? Is it sharpened in order to look like something else? Something dangerous? Something they want to give the impression that they have, when they have not? Or something they don't have, which they do? Will the potatoes be discarded after use? Eaten? something else? Relevant? Did the ruse work? Relevant?
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Will something be put inside the potatoes? No. The thing the potatoes will yesishly be put inside, is it made from fabric? Yes. Is it clothing? Yopish. A weapon? No. Is it sharpened in order to look like something else? Yes. Something dangerous? I suppose if you sat on it... Something they want to give the impression that they have, when they have not? This. Or something they don't have, which they do? Will the potatoes be discarded after use? Yes. Eaten? Possibly, but I doubt it. something else? Relevant? Did the ruse work? Yes. Relevant? Mildly.
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Is someone else than the enemy expected to see the potatoes? Civilists? Superiors? Neutral troops? The Red Cross? Is someone expected to percieve the potatoes by any other means than seeing them? If so: The enemy? Or (see list above)?
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Is someone else than the enemy expected to see the potatoes? Yes. Civilists? Civilians, you mean? Yes, though I'm not sure of the precise status. Superiors? Yes. Neutral troops? The Red Cross? Neither. Is someone expected to percieve the potatoes by any other means than seeing them? No, but... If so: The enemy? Or (see list above)? Civilian superiors.
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This puzzle somehow makes me mix some German into what I write... "Zivilist" is the German word for "Civilian" which I meant.

Civilian superiors. Some government officials? Ministers? Parlamentarians? Royalty involved?

They should have something, which they don't? And they don't want the superiors to find out about?
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Civilian superiors. Some government officials? Yes. Ministers? Parlamentarians? Royalty involved? But particularly this.

They should have something, which they don't? No, but... And they don't want the superiors to find out about? Correct.
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Do they not have something which they should? Are they shaping the potatoes into that "something"?
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Were the potatoes to represent helmet spikes?
Relevant that the German forces generally did not wear helmet spikes in WWI (at least not at the front)? Did they want to look like as if they were still wearing them? in order to please His Majesty? (but he should have known ..)
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Were the potatoes to represent helmet spikes?
Relevant that the German forces generally did not wear helmet spikes in WWI (at least not at the front)? Did they want to look like as if they were still wearing them? in order to please His Majesty? Got it. (but he should have known ..) I don't know why he didn't.

**** Spoiler ****

Kaiser Wilhelm visited the front lines in 1916. German soldiers had abandoned the helmet spike about a year before, but sharpened potatoes and put them under their helmet covers to give the impression the spikes were still there.

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