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Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2011 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Inspired by Mr. Coke's puzzle about the student:

No. Why would I be teaching here then?
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Is that statement spoken? By a H? A? M? By you?

"Here" - a school?
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Is that statement spoken?Hypothetically, yes. By a H? A? M?Yes, a HAM... By you?but not me.

"Here" - a school? Yes
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A school...preschool? elementary school? middle/junior high school? high school? college? university? vocational school?

A religious school? military school?
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A school...preschool? elementary school? middle/junior high school? high school? college?This university? vocational school?

A religious school? military school?It does have a religious affiliation, but aside from it being a college, that school is rather irrelevant. There IS another college that is very relevant to the puzzle, however, and I'll say it is also religiously affiliated, though that fact again is not particularly important.
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Does he teach a relevant class? Is any other person relevant? A student? Another teacher?
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Does he teach a relevant class?Only in that... Is any other person relevant? A student?...he teaches a relevant student. Another teacher?No
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Does the student ask him a question to which the puzzle statement is the answer?
Does the student see something that made him ask the question? Hear something?

Is the student H/youngA/M? F?

Is it a provocative question? Is it about the teacher's personal life? His education? His religious beliefs?
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Does the student ask him a question to which the puzzle statement is the answer?Yes
Does the student see something that made him ask the question? Hear something?Yes, she heard him answer another question.

Is the student H/youngA/M? F? H/young A/F.

Is it a provocative question?No Is it about the teacher's personal life?Noish His education?Noish His religious beliefs?No
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Is the question related to the class?
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Is the question related to the class?No
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Is the question related to the school? Is the question directed at the teacher? At someone else? At more than one person?
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Is the question related to the school?From now on, be specific about which school you mean--the mostly irrelevant "here" or the very relevant other school. Anyway the answers are No and Yope, respectively. Is the question directed at the teacher?This only At someone else? At more than one person?

Again, I'm answering for the second question, the one that could be directly answered with the puzzle statement.
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Is the school which is not "here" the school where the teacher worked before? Where the student learned before? Where the teacher works simultaneously as in "here"
Is the school which is not "here" a college of better reputation?
Did something relevant happen in that other school?
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Is the school which is not "here" the school where the teacher worked before?Assume yes. I don't remember the exact story, but it's probable this is how it came up in conversation. Where the student learned before?No Where the teacher works simultaneously as in "here"No
Is the school which is not "here" a college of better reputation?Irrelevant
Did something relevant happen in that other school?No
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The features of the "previous" school are important by itself? Or only in comparison with the "here" school?
Does the student's question concern: teacher's religious beliefs? teacher's political views? teacher's working preferencies?
Does the student know the "previous" school?
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Did the student, for whatever reason, think that the teacher was rich? Or so highly educated that he could work anywhere? Or that it would be more convienient for him to work at the previous college? Do his family, friends or other close persons live closer to the "other" college than to the "here" one?

Is the teacher's reputation in the "previous" college relevant? Is his relationship to his former colleagues? His chances of getting a salary increase? Does he get along better with the students in the "here" college?

Are any of the working conditions in the "here" college better than in the "previous" one?

Had the teacher himself been a student at the "here" college? At the "previous" college? Is there some sort of rivalry between both colleges?
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The features of the "previous" school are important by itself?Yes, for svv of "features" Or only in comparison with the "here" school?No
Does the student's question concern: teacher's religious beliefs? teacher's political views? teacher's working preferencies? Which question? The first question, which may or may not been asked by the same student, was about his work history. The second question, that would have prompted the puzzle statement, is also about his professional life.
Does the student know the "previous" school?Obviously she hadn't heard of it (hint!)
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Did the student, for whatever reason, think that the teacher was rich? Or so highly educated that he could work anywhere? Or that it would be more convienient for him to work at the previous college? Do his family, friends or other close persons live closer to the "other" college than to the "here" one?

Is the teacher's reputation in the "previous" college relevant?Slight Yopish here Is his relationship to his former colleagues? His chances of getting a salary increase? Does he get along better with the students in the "here" college?

Are any of the working conditions in the "here" college better than in the "previous" one?

Had the teacher himself been a student at the "here" college? At the "previous" college? Is there some sort of rivalry between both colleges?

No or irrelevant to all others.
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Oh, and "relationship to his former colleagues" could get a yesish, though not in the sense of whether he was on good terms with them or something like that.
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Does the student think that the other college doesn't exist? That the teacher made it up?
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Does the student think that the other college doesn't exist?Yope or yesish. In a passive sense, yes. I don't know of a better way to put it. That the teacher made it up?No
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Wait, what puzzle about the student?
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Wait, what puzzle about the student?
It's called "My Stupidity Series #1". And given that I see you answered "yes" to my question on it, I know that the inspiration was in fact "justified". Maybe that will help you get this one.
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Is the name of the college relevant? The location of the college?
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Is the name of the college relevant?The "previous" one? If so Yes! The location of the college?Only insofar as it will help you find the name...
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Is the "previous" one named for its location? Town? State? County? Region?
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Is the "previous" one named for its location? Town? State? County? Region?No to all. I actually don't know what or whom it's named after.
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I just realized I may have been unclear. The location is relevant only in that it narrows the scope of where you must search in your memory or on the web for possible colleges.
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Can I use the [LTPF List of Countries]? If it's the US, can I use the [LTPF List of States]?
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To Gregoryuconn: New York.
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Is it a SUNY school? A community college (which in most cases, would technically make it a SUNY school I believe). Is it a CUNY school? Another school in NYC? Would it happen to be in Pougheekspeie? Marist? Vassar? DCC? Or near Poughkeepsie? Bard? SUNY New Paltz? Ooh, if it were Bard, did the student think Bard and ask if you were Shakespeare?
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Is it a SUNY school?No A community college (which in most cases, would technically make it a SUNY school I believe).Yes in the sense that it is not part of the state university system. Is it a CUNY school?No Another school in NYC?It's not actually in NYC, but very close to it. Would it happen to be in Pougheekspeie? Marist? Vassar? DCC? Or near Poughkeepsie? Bard?It's none of these. SUNY New Paltz? Ooh, if it were Bard, did the student think Bard and ask if you were Shakespeare?No, but OTRT. And remember the teacher in question wasn't me.
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Is the college a public institution? Private?
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Is the college a public institution? Private?Private.
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Is the college religiously affiliated?
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Is the college religiously affiliated?Yes
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Is the school Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Other?
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Is the school Christian?Yes Jewish? Muslim? Other?
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****************RECAP*************************

1. A college professor (who happens to be an uncle of mine, by the way) got asked a question by one of his students.
2. He gave a reply that involved another college he had previously worked at, which is Christian and located in New York just outside of NYC.
3. A student, quite possibly the same one, immediately asked a second question showing (among other things) that she obviously had not heard of that college.
4. This could have prompted the puzzle statement as a response.
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Was the question related to the school's affiliation? To your uncle's religious beliefs?
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Was the question related to the school's affiliation? To your uncle's religious beliefs?Again which question? But the answer for both of your questions, to both of the student's questions, is No.
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Is the name of either college relevant? Is your uncle's name relevant?
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Is the name of either college relevant?Of the previous school, yes very much so! Is your uncle's name relevant?No
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Is the town which either school is located in relevant?
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Is the town which either school is located in relevant?No
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Does it matter whether it's a particular denomination of Christianity? Is the school's name "St. 'Something's'" (e.g. "Saint Mary's" or whatever...)
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When he named the college, did he include the word College (or University) in the name? Or did he just call it something shorthand? If the latter, is that why the student didn't recognize it as a college?
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Does it matter whether it's a particular denomination of Christianity?No Is the school's name "St. 'Something's'" (e.g. "Saint Mary's" or whatever...) And no. Though the current school where he teaches IS named that way, but irr.

When he named the college, did he include the word College (or University) in the name?YES! Or did he just call it something shorthand?No If the latter, is that why the student didn't recognize it as a college?Quite the opposite, in fact.
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was the first school a seminary?

did the name have another meaning? eg Monks?
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was the name of the first school the same as your uncle's name, so the second question may have been something like "do you own it?"?
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was the first school a seminary?No

did the name have another meaning?Yope eg Monks?But not this.

was the name of the first school the same as your uncle's nameNo, so the second question may have been something like "do you own it?"?But for a completely different reason, this was almost the exact question!

Welcome to the forums, Shez! I haven't seen you here before.
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thanks, hi. I just registered today - though I used to lurk on this forum sometime last century.

Haven't got to grips with all the acronyms yet.

Lovely to be here
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Hmm... Christian School just outside NYC that doesn't have the word "St. XXX"

Is it on Long Island? Westchester?

Mercy College?
Iona? Ooh, if it was Iona did he understand that as "I own a College"?
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Iona? Ooh, if it was Iona did he understand that as "I own a College"?YES!

********************SPOILER**********************

The conversation went something like this:

Student: Where else have you taught?
Teacher: Iona College.
Student: You OWN a college??!
Teacher (hypothetical): No. Why would I be teaching here then?
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LOL

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