| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4555 Registered: 5-2003 |
True story: Near the end of World War II, a Sergeant in the US Army was promoted straight to the rank of Major-General. Explain. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2934 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was the Sergeant the very model of a modern Major-General? sorry, couldn't resist... | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1018 Registered: 5-2009 |
Politics relevant? An election? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4556 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the Sergeant the very model of a modern Major-General? LOL! Definitely not. Politics relevant? Office politics, maybe. Of a sort. An election? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11469 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the army running low on Major-Generals? Is corruption involved? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2938 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was he the very model of an ancient Major-General then? Heh, doesn't quite work out as well...=P | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4559 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the army running low on Major-Generals? No. Is corruption involved? Of a sort. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 671 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was there a particular position to fill? very immediately? and it did have to be a general? and nobody else was available? But in any case: is the sergeant's job in the army relevant? (before? after promotion?) Did he work in a command position after promotion? or was the promotion merely technical? Did he retire immediately after promotion? Did he have to fill up a gap in a parade formation? :-) and to get this out of the way: was he promoted as reward for something? for bravery? for long time service? His age at the time of promotion relevant? Did he serve in the army? navy? air force? marines? military police? drill team? other kind of unit? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4562 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was there a particular position to fill? Yes. very immediately? Yes. and it did have to be a general? Yes. and nobody else was available? No. But in any case: is the sergeant's job in the army relevant? (before? This. after promotion?) Did he work in a command position after promotion? No. or was the promotion merely technical? Yes. Did he retire immediately after promotion? Yesish. Did he have to fill up a gap in a parade formation? :-) No. and to get this out of the way: was he promoted as reward for something? Noish. for bravery? No. for long time service? No. His age at the time of promotion relevant? Did he serve in the army? This. navy? air force? marines? military police? drill team? other kind of unit? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11481 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he part of a special forces unit? Was there a major-general whom he replaced? If so, did the sergeant work with him? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4563 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was he part of a special forces unit? Was there a major-general whom he replaced? If so, did the sergeant work with him? No to all. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 579 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was he a real person? Was the unit a real one? Was the unit/would it most likely be under the umbrella of combat arms units? combat service? combat service support? (For basic definitions, see here, here, and here) Or is it too difficult to tell? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4565 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was he a real person? Yes. Was the unit a real one? Yesish. Was the unit/would it most likely be under the umbrella of combat arms units? combat service? combat service support? This, though technically it was considered intelligence (a combat service). (For basic definitions, see here, here, and here) Or is it too difficult to tell? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11497 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant the size of the unit? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4567 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it relevant the size of the unit? Mildly, assume less than ten. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 265 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is the sergeant's job before he joined the army relevant? Could the situation have happened during other war? In the beginning of WWII? Was the sergeant a commander of the intelligence unit? Was he a field soldier? an office soldier? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4569 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the sergeant's job before he joined the army relevant? Mildly. Could the situation have happened during other war? Probably not. In the beginning of WWII? Was the sergeant a commander of the intelligence unit? No. Was he a field soldier? an office soldier? This, though he went to the field frequently. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11518 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he have specific knowledge necessary for commanding/"major-general-ing" the unit? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4571 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did he have specific knowledge necessary for commanding/"major-general-ing" the unit? No. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2955 Registered: 9-2010 |
Less than ten? But major generals normally command upwards of ten *thousand* soldiers...a whole division. *eyes previous answers suspiciously* He was a real person, but the unit was only "yesish"-ly real? Was he promoted by the US Army? Or a different one? (Just making sure he didn't defect, or move to another country, or anything like that...) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4574 Registered: 5-2003 |
Less than ten? But major generals normally command upwards of ten *thousand* soldiers...a whole division. *eyes previous answers suspiciously* Perhaps you have an FA? He was a real person, but the unit was only "yesish"-ly real? No, it was real, though it may not have been designated in military terms. Was he promoted by the US Army? This. Or a different one? (Just making sure he didn't defect, or move to another country, or anything like that...) He did nothing wrong or illegal. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2956 Registered: 9-2010 |
Less than ten? But major generals normally command upwards of ten *thousand* soldiers...a whole division. *eyes previous answers suspiciously* Perhaps you have an FA? Only if Wikipedia's got an FA...it told me that major generals command divisions, and that a division is ten to thirty thousand soldiers. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4575 Registered: 5-2003 |
Only if Wikipedia's got an FA...it told me that major generals command divisions, and that a division is ten to thirty thousand soldiers. Absolutely correct. *smirks* | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2958 Registered: 9-2010 |
...Jenburdoo, that's mean! I iz confuseded kaylee kitteh. :-( *sniff* | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4576 Registered: 5-2003 |
...Jenburdoo, that's mean! I iz confuseded kaylee kitteh. :-( *sniff* I iz sorry. But yoo doz haz an FA. :p | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2959 Registered: 9-2010 |
kaylee kitteh iz can haz it cleared up? :-( Iz can haz hintz? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4577 Registered: 5-2003 |
Iz can haz hintz? He held the rank very briefly -- perhaps 24 hours at the most. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2961 Registered: 9-2010 |
was he playing the part of a Major-General, though he was a Sergeant in real life? acting in a role...as a spy for the government? or as a favor for the making of a film or tv show? (anything to do with Stargate?) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4578 Registered: 5-2003 |
was he playing the part of a Major-General, though he was a Sergeant in real life? Something like that. acting in a role...as a spy for the government? No. or as a favor for the making of a film or tv show? (anything to do with Stargate?) No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 276 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the intelligence unit a regular unit (as opposed to ad hoc unit, formed only to perform the special task)? Was his promotion recorded in his service recordings? Was the whole thing secret? Did the man have any special ability/skill which decided that he was promoted? If so, was it speaking foreign languages? And a wild shot: was there any other person willing to communicate with noone lower than Major - General? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 674 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was there a general required representing this unit? Was the sergeant the highest in rank in this unit? the oldest in service? Would he have retired very soon anyway? And they promoted him on his last day in service? so that he would receive a higher pension? Did the unit have a "quota" of promotions that was not yet used up? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4579 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the intelligence unit a regular unit No. (as opposed to ad hoc unit, formed only to perform the special task)? Yes. Was his promotion recorded in his service recordings? No. Was the whole thing secret? Mildly. Did the man have any special ability/skill which decided that he was promoted? Not directly. If so, was it speaking foreign languages? No. And a wild shot: was there any other person willing to communicate with noone lower than Major - General? No. Was there a general required representing this unit? No. Was the sergeant the highest in rank in this unit? No. the oldest in service? No. Would he have retired very soon anyway? Yes. And they promoted him on his last day in service? No. so that he would receive a higher pension? No. Did the unit have a "quota" of promotions that was not yet used up? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 282 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was a presence of Major-General necessary for the mission the unit has to perform? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4582 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was a presence of Major-General necessary for the mission the unit has to perform? No. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 476 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was he killed while being a Major-General? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 676 Registered: 6-2003 |
As the rank of a Major-General is a permanent (life time) one, and he held this rank only 24 hours .. did he die? Was it necessary for the unit to fulfil its mission that there is a Major-General in the unit? would the same have worked also if the guy was promoted to the rank of a captain? major? colonel? brigadier? instead? if somebody else was promoted instead of this guy? Did the president approve this promotion? (I think in the US Army nobody can be promoted to a general's rank without the president's approval ..?) but if not: did the president know about the promotion? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 290 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was a promotion necessary for the mission? Was the promotion a result of the mission? Was the promotion connected with the mission at all? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 580 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is there another MG who's relevant here? Did the Sgt-turned-MG look like (a relevant) someone else? Did the mission involve directly dealing with the people from whom intelligence was being gathered? Did the Sgt need to pass as a MG? in order to gather intelligence? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4585 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was he killed while being a Major-General? No. As the rank of a Major-General is a permanent (life time) one, and he held this rank only 24 hours .. did he die? No. Was it necessary for the unit to fulfil its mission that there is a Major-General in the unit? No. would the same have worked also if the guy was promoted to the rank of a captain? major? colonel? brigadier? instead? Brigadier, maybe. if somebody else was promoted instead of this guy? No. Did the president approve this promotion? No. (I think in the US Army nobody can be promoted to a general's rank without the president's approval ..?) but if not: did the president know about the promotion? No. Was a promotion necessary for the mission? Mission is the wrong word, could mean several things and be very misleading. Redefine, explain clearly and ask again. Was the promotion a result of the mission? Was the promotion connected with the mission at all? Is there another MG who's relevant here? No. Did the Sgt-turned-MG look like (a relevant) someone else? No. Did the mission involve directly dealing with the people from whom intelligence was being gathered? Did the Sgt need to pass as a MG? No. in order to gather intelligence? I should say that while the unit was "combat service support," it was under Intelligence for administrative purposes only. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1302 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was his ethnicity relevant? Is it relevant who took the decision to promote him (since the President was unaware)? Was his promotion real, or simply a joke? Did the promotion help fulfill some military purposes? In the 24 hours when he was MG, was he on American soil? In enemy territory? Exchange of prisoners relevant? Was he a prisoner at the time of promotion? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4589 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was his ethnicity relevant? No. Is it relevant who took the decision to promote him (since the President was unaware)? Mildly. Was his promotion real No., or simply a joke? No, but... Did the promotion help fulfill some military purposes? Mildly. In the 24 hours when he was MG, was he on American soil? Yes. In enemy territory? Exchange of prisoners relevant? Was he a prisoner at the time of promotion? None of the others. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 305 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did he even know he was promoted? Did he agree to be promoted? Could something relevant be signed by a high officer? Could any relevant orders be issued by a high officer? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4592 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did he even know he was promoted? Irr. Did he agree to be promoted? Irr. Could something relevant be signed by a high officer? Could any relevant orders be issued by a high officer? No to both. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1307 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he supposed to meet someone who expected to see a MG? Was he promoted only on paper and those papers handed to someone else? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4595 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was he supposed to meet someone who expected to see a MG? No. Was he promoted only on paper Yes. and those papers handed to someone else? Yes. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1313 Registered: 9-2009 |
That someone else: from the military? US'? Allied forces? The enemy's? (Germany? Japan? Italy?) If from the US: Army? USAF? Navy? Marines? USCG? Was the person to whom they were handed relevant? His / her grade in the military? Was he a relative of the sergeant? His mother? Father? Wife? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1314 Registered: 9-2009 |
Wild shot: was it a certain important paper, that needed to be signed by a high official, so he was 'promoted' in order to be able to sign it? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4597 Registered: 5-2003 |
That someone else: from the military? Assume this. US'? And this. Allied forces? The enemy's? (Germany? Japan? Italy?) If from the US: Army? USAF? And this. Navy? Marines? USCG? Was the person to whom they were handed relevant? Assume yes (I'm confabulating a bit). His / her grade in the military? No. Was he a relative of the sergeant? No. His mother? Father? Wife? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 311 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was his promotion needed for any actions in combat/field actions? Was it only needed for administrative/office purposes? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 678 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was he promoted by mistake? Was he promoted at all? Did it appear in some paper or report that he was promoted but actually he was not? Did he appear in the news as Major General? Was there a misunderstanding of some kind? Did somebody mishear or misread Major Sergeant as Major General? Did he appear on paper as Major General in order to outrank somebody? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4598 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was his promotion needed for any actions in combat/field actions? No. Was it only needed for administrative/office purposes? Yes. Was he promoted by mistake? No. Was he promoted at all? No. Did it appear in some paper or report that he was promoted but actually he was not? Yes. Did he appear in the news as Major General? No. Was there a misunderstanding of some kind? No. Did somebody mishear or misread Major Sergeant as Major General? No. Did he appear on paper as Major General in order to outrank somebody? Possibly. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1319 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, the rank of the person from the USAF that received the papers is not relevant, correct? Did the person who receive them pass them to another person? Was he supposed to? Was the Army trying to get some commitment from the USAF for a certain action? An approval? That only could be asked by a MG? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4600 Registered: 5-2003 |
So, the rank of the person from the USAF that received the papers is not relevant, correct? No, though it's likely somewhere between Lieutenant and Captain. Did the person who receive them pass them to another person? No. Was he supposed to? No. Was the Army trying to get some commitment from the USAF for a certain action? Yesish. An approval? That only could be asked by a MG? OTRT, but look out for FAs. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 345 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the Army need to issue orders, that only a MG could issue? Was the promotion a necessary condition of obtaining what they wanted? Or did the promotion only make their purpose more likely/easier to achieve? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4607 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the Army need to issue orders, that only a MG could issue? No. Was the promotion a necessary condition of obtaining what they wanted? Yes. Or did the promotion only make their purpose more likely/easier to achieve? Much easier. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 364 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is it important what specific commitment the Army needed from the USAF? If so: was it a transportation of items? transportation of people? reconnaissance from air? bombing? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4619 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it important what specific commitment the Army needed from the USAF? Yes. If so: was it a transportation of items? transportation of people? This. reconnaissance from air? bombing? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 370 Registered: 1-2011 |
Were the people to be transported soldiers? Civilians? Was the purpose to take people from USA territory to the field? To evacuate people from the field? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4620 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were the people to be transported soldiers? This. Civilians? Was the purpose to take people from USA territory to the field? To evacuate people from the field? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11788 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they need a major general to perform the evacuations? To issue the evacuation orders? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4624 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they need a major general to perform the evacuations? No. To issue the evacuation orders? No. The answer to evacuating from theater to the US is actually yesish. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 394 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the sergeant-MG part of the office people who tried to arrange the evacuation? Or was he part of the field people who were to be evacuated? If the latter, was evacuating a high officer possible, while nobody would have bothered for simple sergeant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4627 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the sergeant-MG part of the office people who tried to arrange the evacuation? No. Or was he part of the field people who were to be evacuated? Yes. If the latter, was evacuating a high officer possible, while nobody would have bothered for simple sergeant? Yes. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 412 Registered: 1-2011 |
You said before, that in the time that he held a MG rank, he was on the American soil. Was he on American soil during all time he held the rank? Was he on the American ground in the moment of promotion? Was it actual American territory, as within the borders? Or the American territory as an embassy? a plane? a ship? a military base? Was he in danger? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4631 Registered: 5-2003 |
You said before, that in the time that he held a MG rank, he was on the American soil. Was he on American soil during all time he held the rank? No. Was he on the American ground in the moment of promotion? No. Was it actual American territory, as within the borders? Yes. Or the American territory as an embassy? a plane? But also this. a ship? a military base? Was he in danger? No, assuming a competent pilot. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1371 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he order the pilot to change course, while in flight? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 417 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is this correct to say that a sergeant was somewhere abroad, then the need arose to evacuate him so he was promoted to MG while still abroad (to have a good reason for evacuating him) and then he was evacuated within 24 hours, so he moved to an american territory - the plane, which took him to USA? Did he need to be evacuated because of something he knew? Something he did? Could he safely stay where he was? He was evacuated for his benefit? For benefit of someone else? For benefit of the Army? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4633 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is this correct to say that a sergeant was somewhere abroad, then the need arose to evacuate him so he was promoted to MG while still abroad (to have a good reason for evacuating him) and then he was evacuated within 24 hours, so he moved to an american territory - the plane, which took him to USA? No, he moved to American territory (the USA) by plane. Otherwise, yes. Did he need to be evacuated because of something he knew? Something he did? This. Could he safely stay where he was? Yes. He was evacuated for his benefit? For benefit of someone else? For benefit of the Army? Mostly this, but some of the other two as well. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11867 Registered: 4-2010 |
You missed Rbruma's question... Was he undercover? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4636 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did he order the pilot to change course, while in flight? No. Was he undercover? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 438 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did he become dangerous for the army in the place where he was? Was he in China? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4642 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did he become dangerous for the army in the place where he was? No. Was he in China? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 467 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was he urgently needed in the USA? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4650 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was he urgently needed in the USA? Yes. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 496 Registered: 1-2011 |
He was urgently needed in the USA because of something he did abroad, correct? Was he a spy? Did he possess any important intelligence material? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4652 Registered: 5-2003 |
He was urgently needed in the USA because of something he did abroad, correct? Yes. Was he a spy? No. Did he possess any important intelligence material? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12052 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a mission of his relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2011 |
was he alive? was he brought back because of something he had witnessed? or was he brought back to work on a specific project? eg the development of the atomic bomb? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4656 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is a mission of his relevant? No. was he alive? Yes. was he brought back because of something he had witnessed? Noish. or was he brought back to work on a specific project? No. eg the development of the atomic bomb? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 563 Registered: 1-2011 |
SOmething relevant he did abroad, was it illegal? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4671 Registered: 5-2003 |
SOmething relevant he did abroad, Yes. was it illegal? No. (Though Patton had his doubts.) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 104 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he assassinate someone? impersonate someone? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4677 Registered: 5-2003 |
did he assassinate someone? impersonate someone? Neither. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 593 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the thing he did abroad a part of war actions? Did he investigate something? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 142 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he take something? eg artwork? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4696 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the thing he did abroad a part of war actions? Yope. Did he investigate something? Yesish. did he take something? Probably. eg artwork? Extremely likely. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 148 Registered: 2-2011 |
was he one of the people responsible for recovering art treasures stolen by the Nazis? or hiding them so that they would not be? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4697 Registered: 5-2003 |
was he one of the people responsible for recovering art treasures stolen by the Nazis? No, but I've recently heard an excellent interview of one of them. or hiding them so that they would not be? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 626 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was this artwork also evacuated? Did he have a knowledge of artworks? Could he differ the copy from the original? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 203 Registered: 2-2011 |
was he a forger? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4705 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was this artwork also evacuated? Evacuated is the wrong word. Some of it, perhaps, but irr. Did he have a knowledge of artworks? Mildly. Could he differ the copy from the original? Probably. All these are irrelevant. was he a forger? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 697 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the relevant artwork created by himself? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 327 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he steal or confiscate works of art? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4712 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the relevant artwork created by himself? Yes. Excellent question. did he steal or confiscate works of art? No. He was not a criminal - though as I said, Patton had his doubts. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 330 Registered: 2-2011 |
was he a forger? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4713 Registered: 5-2003 |
was he a forger? No. And wouldn't that be criminal? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 338 Registered: 2-2011 |
he could have been a criminal helping out in his spare time! sorry, I seem to keep asking the same question. was his presence required to paint a portrait? restore a painting? was he chosen because of a particular work he had already produced? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 704 Registered: 1-2011 |
The relevant work of art, was it purely decorative? Or did it also serve a purpose? Was the work of art visible? audible? touchable? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4714 Registered: 5-2003 |
was his presence required to paint a portrait? No. restore a painting? No. was he chosen because of a particular work he had already produced? Technically, but more for his entire body of work. The relevant work of art, There isn't a single one was it purely decorative? Or did it also serve a purpose? This. Was the work of art visible? This. audible? touchable? This, though only a very few touched the originals, and everyone else touched reproductions. It is not three-dimensional. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 346 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a portrait on currency? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
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Did he make photos? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4715 Registered: 5-2003 |
is it a portrait on currency? Currency is not involved. Did he make photos? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 352 Registered: 2-2011 |
postage stamps? war paintings? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Relevant from which country he was evacuated? Was he there in a secret mission? Did he copy paintings? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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postage stamps? No. war paintings? Getting warmer. Relevant from which country he was evacuated? Not really. Germany, I think. Could have been France, Britain or Holland. Was he there in a secret mission? No. Did he copy paintings? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 356 Registered: 2-2011 |
paintings of war heroes? dead people? battlefields? cartoons? Nuremberg? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4719 Registered: 5-2003 |
paintings of war heroes? dead people? battlefields? cartoons? This. Nuremberg? | ||
| Dukhsan (Dukhsan)
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Was the knowledge that this man was "promoted" spread far and wide? Could enemy forces intercept it? Would his "promotion" be a red herring to the enemy? Would a major-general be able to make any administrative decision regarding these cartoons? Their usage as propaganda? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4720 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the knowledge that this man was "promoted" spread far and wide? Could enemy forces intercept it? Would his "promotion" be a red herring to the enemy? No to all, last two irr. Would a major-general be able to make any administrative decision regarding these cartoons? Their usage as propaganda? No, but Patton (a Lt. General, one rank higher) could and did. This is largely irrelevant to the puzzle, however. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 711 Registered: 1-2011 |
Once you said that the man investigated something. Were the result of his investigation expressed in the cartoons? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4725 Registered: 5-2003 |
Once you said that the man investigated something. Were the result of his investigation expressed in the cartoons? Yes. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 709 Registered: 6-2003 |
Were his cartoons needed in the US? Did they contain some concealed information? Was it required that he returns to the US in person, rather just sending the cartoons? Was his presence in the US required? if so: for a long time? Was it planned that he returns to the place from where he was evacuated after he did whatever was to do in the US? Was he required to draw a cartoon in the US? (on a special occasion?) Was he given a medal? Was his job to counterfeit currency? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4730 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were his cartoons needed in the US? No. Did they contain some concealed information? No. Was it required that he returns to the US in person, rather just sending the cartoons? Yes. Was his presence in the US required? Yes. if so: for a long time? Was it planned that he returns to the place from where he was evacuated after he did whatever was to do in the US? No, but irrelevant. Was he required to draw a cartoon in the US? (on a special occasion?) No. Was he given a medal? Close. Was his job to counterfeit currency. No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 801 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did people in the US understand the hidden message of the cartoons? Was he needed to "translate" the cartoon message? Was he needed in person to support and/or confirm the cartoon message? (for example somewhere where cartoons were unacceptable evidence, in court or so?) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 537 Registered: 2-2011 |
was he given another type of award? a military honour? an artistic prize? was the somthing he investigated specifically to do with the war? people? did he draw caricatures/impressions? or battlefield scenes? or armoured vehicles, planes and weaponry? was he a spy? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4740 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did people in the US understand the hidden message of the cartoons? Yes, though I'm not sure I'd call it "hidden." Was he needed to "translate" the cartoon message? No. Was he needed in person to support and/or confirm the cartoon message? No. (for example somewhere where cartoons were unacceptable evidence, in court or so?) was he given another type of award? Yes. a military honour? an artistic prize? Neither, though artistic is vaguely otrt. was the somthing he investigated specifically to do with the war? Yes. people? Yes. did he draw caricatures/impressions? The latter. or battlefield scenes? Rarely. or armoured vehicles, planes and weaponry? Yes. was he a spy? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
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was it a prize for journalism? the Pulitzer prize? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4743 Registered: 5-2003 |
was it a prize for journalism? the Pulitzer prize? Yes to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
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Was he involved directly in the fighting against Germany? Italy? Japan? (Just trying to clear up background details that haven't been guessed yet - since I'm totally stuck.) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Was he involved directly in the fighting against Germany? Italy? Japan? Directly in terms of shooting at the enemy? No - though he served in the European theater. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Should be William Mauldin, then? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Should be William Mauldin, then? Yes. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
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I'm not sure what still to ask.. So, Bill Mauldin received the Pulitzer Price in 1945. He was serving in the US Army in Europe and the war was not yet over. But some people were eager to get him over to New York for the price ceremony. So the US Air Force was ordered to evacuate Maj Gen Mauldin from Europe. Correct? What is left to find out? Was it necessary to make him a Major General because otherwise the government would not have paid for the transport? or his unit commander would not have let him go? Was there no chance that he returns to the US with a regular (military) flight? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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I'm not sure what still to ask.. So, Bill Mauldin received the Pulitzer Price in 1945. He was serving in the US Army in Europe and the war was not yet over. But some people were eager to get him over to New York for the price ceremony. So the US Air Force was ordered to evacuate Maj Gen Mauldin from Europe. Correct? What is left to find out? Was it necessary to make him a Major General because otherwise the government would not have paid for the transport? This. *********** Spoiler ************** Due to a "crunch" of people going home just after the war, Allied soldiers were required to have a certain number of "points" to be demobilized. Mauldin, being just a sergeant with one Purple Heart and a year and ten months overseas, would have had to wait for officers and people with more experience or medals to go before him. Luckily for him, the US Army wanted to make the most of his Pulitzer (he was the youngest ever to win one) and temporarily promoted him to two-star general so that he could fly home immediately for a news conference. |
