| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11830 Registered: 4-2010 |
So it seems that four out of ten of them would be expecting them to dial an international number. Them #1 =/= Them #2 | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3083 Registered: 9-2010 |
Good? :-P Ah...Jeff Dunham relevant? Achmed? (Just saying.) So, are there only ten in Them1? Is the number of Them2 important? And four out of the ten in Them1 expect (however many) of Them2 to dial an international number? Scams relevant? Are the countries relevant? If so, are they in: North America? South America? Africa? Europe? Asia? Australia & Oceania? Micronesia? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11836 Registered: 4-2010 |
Good? :-P I hope this puzzle is... Ah...Jeff Dunham relevant? Achmed? (Just saying.) Neither, but nice thought So, are there only ten in Them1? No Is the number of Them2 important? Yope And four out of the ten in Them1 expect (however many) of Them2 to dial an international number? Yope Scams relevant? No Are the countries relevant? Yes, but please elaborate If so, are they in: North America? South America? The "international number" is either here or North America...or neither; I'm not sure how to classify it. Africa? Europe? Asia? Australia & Oceania? Micronesia? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11837 Registered: 4-2010 |
On second or third thought, it could be considered Europe. Again, I don't know how to classify it. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 411 Registered: 1-2011 |
Do the remaining 6 out of 10 of Them 1 expect the internal (national) number to be dialed by Them 2? No number to be dialed? Do They 2 dial numbers as a part of job? As a hobby? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11838 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do the remaining 6 out of 10 of Them 1 expect the internal (national) number to be dialed by Them 2? No, FA No number to be dialed? There is no number to be dialed, yes Do They 2 dial numbers as a part of job? As a hobby? No to both, same FA | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 421 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are telephone numbers involved? Other numbers? Is it correct to say, that 4/10 of Them 1 would be expecting Them 2 to dial an international number despite of the fact that there's no number to be dialed? Do They 1 know there's no number to be dialed? Do the remaining 6/10 of Them 1 make any expectations at all? Do the possible expectations of Them 2 refer to hypothaetical situation? (Like: If we had a phone at home, we would phone our auntie in Australia) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11859 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are telephone numbers involved? Other numbers? No to both Is it correct to say, that 4/10 of Them 1 would be expecting Them 2 to dial an international number despite of the fact that there's no number to be dialed? Yes Do They 1 know there's no number to be dialed? Yope Do the remaining 6/10 of Them 1 make any expectations at all? Not really - see below Do the possible expectations of Them 2 refer to hypothaetical situation? (Like: If we had a phone at home, we would phone our auntie in Australia) Yope I realize now that the original puzzle statement was a bit vague - rewording: So it seems that four out of ten of them think they are dialing an international number. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 429 Registered: 1-2011 |
Do They 1 see the situation happening to Them 2? Are They 2 actually dialing any number? Are They 2 pressing the buttons of the phone? Which makes Them 1 assume, They 2 are dialing a phone number? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11866 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do They 1 see the situation happening to Them 2? No Are They 2 actually dialing any number? No Are They 2 pressing the buttons of the phone? No, FA Which makes Them 1 assume, They 2 are dialing a phone number? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3678 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are buttons being pressed? Or is some other action being performed, that could be misinterpreted as dialing a phone number? Relevant about international numbers: that they consist of lots of digits? That they are more expensive to call? Anything else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11876 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are buttons being pressed? No Or is some other action being performed, that could be misinterpreted as dialing a phone number? Yope Relevant about international numbers: that they consist of lots of digits? That they are more expensive to call? Neither Anything else? No | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1919 Registered: 11-2003 |
Any of these relevant; The Arctic? Greenland? Antarctica? internet? Skype? sms? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 434 Registered: 1-2011 |
True story? FSEI? FYOI? And just to clarify: Four out of ten desribes percentage, right? These are not the exact numbers of They 1, correct? Are both They 1 and They 2 human? adult? gender relevant? still alive? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1026 Registered: 5-2009 |
Something which could be considered Europe, but also North or South America? Overseas parts of European countries relevant? Maybe the Netherlands Antilles? French overseas departments? Or Saint-Pierre et Miquelon? Something British (I hope I don't have to investigate the exact status of the territory...)? Or something in international waters? Some ship? Aircraft? Spacecraft? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11879 Registered: 4-2010 |
Any of these relevant; No The Arctic? Greenland? Antarctica? internet? Skype? sms? True story? Yes, but... FSEI? FYOI? And just to clarify: Four out of ten desribes percentage, right? Correct These are not the exact numbers of They 1, correct? Also correct Are both They 1 and They 2 human? adult? gender relevant? still alive? They 1 - HA-Mixed, assume still alive. They 2 - HAM, still alive Something which could be considered Europe, but also North or South America? Yes (sorry for the confusion; the Wiki page is confusing) Overseas parts of European countries relevant? Yes Maybe the Netherlands Antilles? Close, but No French overseas departments? No Or Saint-Pierre et Miquelon? No Something British (I hope I don't have to investigate the exact status of the territory...)? It's independent, but it was once British. Or something in international waters? No Some ship? No Aircraft? No Spacecraft? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11921 Registered: 4-2010 |
To clear up all the confusion which I undoubtedly caused (sorry): The "international number" is an island in the Greater Antilles. I don't know what continent it's considered to be part of. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 441 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are They 1 in danger? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11925 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are They 1 in danger? No - OTWT entirely HINT: The puzzle statement is a bit tongue-in-cheek. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 449 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are They 1 and They 2 related? Have They 1 and They 2 (or representatives) meet in person? Are either They 1 or They 2 British? Citizens of Great Antilles? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 688 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is the puzzle statement your reaction to some dubious research or statistics? Is the phone number some kind of .. hotline? that four out of ten (male?) adults are calling? while engaged in some other activity? (driving?) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11934 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are They 1 and They 2 related? No Have They 1 and They 2 (or representatives) meet in person? No Are either They 1 or They 2 British? They #1 consists of the British population Citizens of Great Antilles? They #2 is one country in the Greater Antilles Is the puzzle statement your reaction to some dubious No research or statistics? Yes Is the phone number some kind of .. hotline? No, slight FA that four out of ten (male?) adults are calling? No while engaged in some other activity? No (driving?) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1382 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are we talking here about Jamaica? (They#2) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11963 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are we talking here about Jamaica? Yes - they're the "international number" (They#2) But not the They #2 (MANY EARLIER BLOOPERS: They #2 is not the "international number," but the ones who are supposedly dialing the international number.) RECAP (aka "rewriting-the-puzzle-statement-to-show-new-info"): "So it seems that four out of ten of the British population think a yet-unknown "they" are dialing a phone number in Jamaica." | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 457 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is there a particular location in Jamaica relevant? Are They 2 also British? Are They 2 citizens of another (than Jamaica) country on Greater Antilles? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11982 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a particular location in Jamaica relevant? No Are They 2 also British? No Are They 2 citizens of another (than Jamaica) country on Greater Antilles? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 461 Registered: 1-2011 |
About They 2, is their profession relevant? Age? Nationality? Race? The number of people in They 2: 2? 3-5? 5-10? 10-50? 50-100? more than 100? more than 1000? Is this relevant that there's no women in They 2? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11986 Registered: 4-2010 |
About They 2, is their profession relevant? This Age? Nationality? Race? The number of people in They 2: 2? 3-5? Three, but formerly four 5-10? 10-50? 50-100? more than 100? more than 1000? Is this relevant that there's no women in They 2? Yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3154 Registered: 9-2010 |
Were there *ever* any women in They 2, since one of the people in They 2 has: disappeared? left? died? (by "disappeared", I mean, left, but not of his/her own volition..."left" implies voluntary leaving) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11998 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were there *ever* any women in They 2, No since one of the people in They 2 has: disappeared? left? This died? (by "disappeared", I mean, left, but not of his/her own volition..."left" implies voluntary leaving) Gotcha. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 479 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are They 2 in military? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12012 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are They 2 in military? No | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1385 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they 2 a musical band / group of some sort? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12021 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they 2 a musical band / group of some sort? YES | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 492 Registered: 1-2011 |
Does the puzzle statement refer to a piece of music performed by the band? To the music video of the band? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12038 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the puzzle statement refer to a piece of music performed by the band? A part of one of their songs To the music video of the band? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2361 Registered: 7-2009 |
Balin: is there some chance you may have accidentally reversed the second and third digits in the number? I have a guess for a song, but it doesn't quite match up (I end up in Canada rather than Jamaica...). The number seems way too similar to be a coincidence, though. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12041 Registered: 4-2010 |
Balin: is there some chance you may have accidentally reversed the second and third digits in the number? No, FA I have a guess for a song, but it doesn't quite match up (I end up in Canada rather than Jamaica...). The number seems way too similar to be a coincidence, though. Take a stab at it. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 510 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is there the number in the lyrics of the song? Mondegreen involved? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2362 Registered: 7-2009 |
Well, I was thinking of Jenny (867-5309). Relevant? But 867 is the area code for some Canadian territories in the Arctic, whereas the area code for Jamaica is 876. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12056 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there the number in the lyrics of the song? No - FA cleared! Mondegreen involved? YES!! Well, I was thinking of Jenny (867-5309). Relevant? But 867 is the area code for some Canadian territories in the Arctic, whereas the area code for Jamaica is 876. Not this one. As I said, there's no actual number in the song. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2365 Registered: 7-2009 |
So some lyrics in the song sound like eight seven six? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12069 Registered: 4-2010 |
So some lyrics in the song sound like eight seven six? No. It's much simpler than this. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2367 Registered: 7-2009 |
Do they sound like "call Jamaica?" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12074 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they sound like "call Jamaica?" Almost - the mondegreen is "Calling Jamaica." | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 698 Registered: 9-2010 |
Calling Yo Mama? Does the lyric actually include the word Calling? Jamaica? You make(uh)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12090 Registered: 4-2010 |
Calling Yo Mama? No Does the lyric actually include the word Calling? No, but it includes "call." Jamaica? No You make(uh)? No You have a bit of info about the band - if you're stuck, why not work from there? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 705 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are are they a [LTPF list of music genres] band? From [LTPF list of countires]? Does the correct song lyric include "Call in"? "Call an..." "Call a [word that begins with "n" or a similar letter]?" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12099 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are are they a [LTPF list of music genres] band? Alternative rock From [LTPF list of countires]? USA Does the correct song lyric include "Call in"? "Call an..." "Call a [word that begins with "n" or a similar letter]?" No to all | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2371 Registered: 7-2009 |
Do the lyrics include the word make? take? fake? ache? wake? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12102 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do the lyrics include the word make? take? fake? ache? wake? Only "wake" | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2372 Registered: 7-2009 |
Oh wait! It's an R.E.M. song, isn't it? If yes, I have to admit that I ALWAYS forget what the real lyrics are unless I'm consciously thinking about it, so even though I know it's not right, I do tend to sing a variation of the Jamaica version to myself ("Call me Jamaica" rather than "Calling Jamaica"). Hmm, now I wonder what the connection is to the British population... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12104 Registered: 4-2010 |
Oh wait! It's an R.E.M. song, isn't it? Yep! If yes, I have to admit that I ALWAYS forget what the real lyrics are unless I'm consciously thinking about it, so even though I know it's not right, I do tend to sing a variation of the Jamaica version to myself ("Call me Jamaica" rather than "Calling Jamaica"). Hmm, now I wonder what the connection is to the British population... I'll clear that up in the $poyler. Just name the song and we're all set. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2373 Registered: 7-2009 |
The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite? Any idea why they spelled "Tonite" that way? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12108 Registered: 4-2010 |
The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite? Yep! Any idea why they spelled "Tonite" that way? Not a clue, though I bet Peter365 (our resident R.E.M. expert) would know. **********SPOILER********** A September 2010 survey found that the lyric "Call me when you try to wake her" in the R.E.M. song "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite" is the most misheard by the British population; forty percent of the people hear the lyric as "Calling Jamaica." Hence the tongue-in-cheek puzzle statement. Nice solve everyone, with bonus points to Noel. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2374 Registered: 7-2009 |
I still find it hard to believe that they're cramming that many words (the real lyrics) into that little bit of song space. I've never been able to pick them all out, even listening for them. Now that I think of it, I think I'm usually more likely to sing "only to wake up" in my head than the Jamaica line. I thought those were the real words for the longest time. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3277 Registered: 1-2007 |
GRRR MUTTER GRRR PHAT TSK GRR MOAN This is the sound of Peter365 realising he's missed an REM puzzle. As for the spelling I'm not sure but I guess Michael Stipe did it to distinguish it from "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" which inspires the title. Best not to try and make too much sense of Michael's lyrics and spellings. New ablum out soon . Heard some promo tracks and it sounds awesome. Michael has a full grown grey beard which really makes him look his age. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12162 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hope I don't burst your bubble, but I don't think you saw my third REM puzzle ("Number 3, Number 4" in the August 2010 archives). I hope you did, because I directly referred to a fact I assumed you knew in the puzzle statement. If I was wrong I apologize. And I've never heard "PHAT" as onomatopoeia before. I like it. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3286 Registered: 1-2007 |
I hadn't spotted that puzzle . It was nicely phrased and yes I was aware the connection to the chinese massacre. One small point of order Kate Pierson of the B52s who sings on "Shiny.." also sang on two other songs on the Out of Time album namely "Country Feedback" & "Me In Honey". She has an amazing voice which really suited the musical style of "Out of Time". |
