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Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3685 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 5:20 pm: |      |
The other day, a friend (HAM) made a comment about another person (HAirr). The comment made me (GalFisk) realize that I had a passive scrund of a sort about myself. What was the comment, and what was the scrund? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11878 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 8:37 pm: |      |
Did you hear the comment? Is it relevant where the comment was made? When? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3692 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 9:04 pm: |      |
Did you hear the comment? Yes. Is it relevant where the comment was made? When? No to both. |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 9:06 pm: |      |
Was the scrund about your name? Your ancestry? Something about your actual personality? Was the scrund something that could apply only to you? Or to other people with a feature/features in common with you? Interesting puzzle...and on a tangential note, I quite like the acronym Hairr. More female- (and vegan-)friendly than HAM. =) |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3694 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 9:42 pm: |      |
Was the scrund about your name? Your ancestry? Something about your actual personality? This. Was the scrund something that could apply only to you? Yes. Or to other people with a feature/features in common with you? It would be possible to have a similar scrund about other people. Interesting puzzle...Thanks.and on a tangential note, I quite like the acronym Hairr. More female- (and vegan-)friendly than HAM. =) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11893 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 9:44 pm: |      |
Any hobbies of yours relevant? LTPF? Skydiving? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3696 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 9:45 pm: |      |
Any hobbies of yours relevant? LTPF? Skydiving? No to all. |
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle
Post Number: 495 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 12:07 am: |      |
Did the friend making the comment mistakenly comment on you instead of on the other person? Did the friend intend for you to hear it? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3700 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 9:18 am: |      |
Did the friend making the comment mistakenly comment on you instead of on the other person? No. Did the friend intend for you to hear it? Irr. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11924 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Is the scrund related to a physical characteristic of yours? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3703 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 1:39 pm: |      |
Is the scrund related to a physical characteristic of yours? No. |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 1926 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 8:44 pm: |      |
Do you have something in common with the HAIrr? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3712 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 12:29 am: |      |
Do you have something in common with the HAIrr? Nothing relevant. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 365 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 9:43 am: |      |
Was the scrund about your attitude/opinion on something? Political views? Religious views? Moral views? Interests of yours? Is belonging to some sort of group relevant? To a group in a broader sense, as in introverts, extroverts, vegetarians etc.? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3715 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 5:16 pm: |      |
Was the scrund about your attitude/opinion on something? This is closest. Political views? Religious views? Moral views? <b> Interests of yours? Is belonging to some sort of group relevant? See below. To a group in a broader sense, as in introverts, extroverts, vegetarians etc.? Yes, something like this - the group does not have a name though. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 480 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 8:59 am: |      |
Is the group people who share the common opinion on something? Was it your scrund that you belong to the group? or that you do not belong to the group? Would you have made similar comment about HAIrr as your friend did? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3718 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 9:44 am: |      |
Is the group people who share the common opinion on something? Yesish. Was it your scrund that you belong to the group? or that you do not belong to the group? I had never thought of myself as belonging to this group, and had never even thought of such a group existing, but his comment made me realize such a group must exist, and that I belong to it. Would you have made similar comment about HAIrr as your friend did? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12013 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 1:28 pm: |      |
Does the group share a common belief? Idea? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3721 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 1:38 pm: |      |
Does the group share a common Yes. belief? Idea? Idea is closer, but not the best word. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12019 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 1:40 pm: |      |
Common...routine? Schedule? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3722 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 1:43 pm: |      |
Common...routine? Schedule? No, your previous guess was closer. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12022 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 1:58 pm: |      |
Common...principle? Concept? Imagination? Creativity? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3725 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 2:11 pm: |      |
Common...principle? Concept? Closest, but not that close. Imagination? Creativity? Hint: it would help to know more about the comment my friend made. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 484 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 9:01 pm: |      |
Did the comment refer to HAIrr's: appearance? religion? political views? behaviour? moral values? something else entirely? Wouldn't you make a similar comment because: you considered it rude? improper? you believe/think contrarily? Was the comment positive? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3726 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 9:18 pm: |      |
Did the comment refer to HAIrr's: appearance? religion? political views? behaviour? moral values? something else entirely? FA. Wouldn't you make a similar comment because: you considered it rude? improper? you believe/think contrarily? This. Was the comment positive? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12028 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:55 pm: |      |
Did the comment refer to HAIrr at all? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3728 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 7:54 am: |      |
Did the comment refer to HAIrr at all? Yope. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12032 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 12:51 pm: |      |
Did the comment mention HAIrr specifically? Was it about someone else? Someone at all? But it could also apply to HAIrr? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3729 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 1:21 pm: |      |
Did the comment mention HAIrr specifically? Yes. Was it about someone else? Yes. Someone at all? Yes. But it could also apply to HAIrr? Yesish. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 491 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 2:31 pm: |      |
Is the common opinion-ish shared by the group a contrary one to what was expressed in the comment? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3730 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 2:36 pm: |      |
Is the common opinion-ish shared by the group a contrary one to what was expressed in the comment? Yes, in very general terms. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 499 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 4:45 pm: |      |
Is it correct to say that the comment expressed criticism? If yes, was this criticism about HAIrr? About general sort of people, including HAIrr? About any specific quality/feature of HAIrr? About what HAIrr did? said? In the puzzle statement you said that the comment was about HAIrr. In your post above you say that it was about someone else. Was it about both HAIrr and someone else? Is someone else relevant to the puzzle? Is someone else related with HAIrr? Does someone else share a common quality/feature with HAIrr? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3732 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 4:55 pm: |      |
Is it correct to say that the comment expressed criticism? Yes. If yes, was this criticism about HAIrr? Yope, se below. About general sort of people, including HAIrr? No, HAirr was specified. About any specific quality/feature of HAIrr? Yesish. About what HAIrr did? said? None of those really. In the puzzle statement you said that the comment was about HAIrr. In your post above you say that it was about someone else. Was it about both HAIrr and someone else? Indeed. Is someone else relevant to the puzzle? Yes. Is someone else related with HAIrr? Irr. Does someone else share a common quality/feature with HAIrr? Yes. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 3167 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 5:17 pm: |      |
Ok, this is starting to confuse me, lol. So the people involved are you, Galfisk, your HAM friend (can we call him Matt?) who made a comment about a HAIrr (can we call that person Pat?) which made you realize you had a passive scrund about yourself. And another person (HAM? HAF? HAIrr?) is also relevant now? Could you recap please? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3733 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 5:44 pm: |      |
Ok, this is starting to confuse me, lol. So the people involved are you, Galfisk, your HAM friend (can we call him Matt?) who made a comment about a HAIrr (can we call that person Pat?) which made you realize you had a passive scrund about yourself. Correct. And another person (HAM? HAF? HAIrr?) is also relevant now? FA, se below. Could you recap please? RECAP: My friend Matt made a negative comment about Pat. This comment said something both about Pat, and about Matt himself. (FA cleared: the "other person" is Matt.) I overheard the comment, and realized that I belonged to a group of people I had never even thought of. What defines this group is having an opinion-ish that is, in very general terms, the opposite of what Matt expressed. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 3168 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 6:13 pm: |      |
Was Pat present when Matt made this comment? *is trying to think of something this comment could be relevant to, and drawing blanks* Even if it's irrelevant, are they on your skydiving team? Inquiring minds want to know. (Have you got a banana number two yet? Poor banana, having to go away...) |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3735 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 6:25 pm: |      |
Was Pat present when Matt made this comment? No. *is trying to think of something this comment could be relevant to, and drawing blanks* Even if it's irrelevant, are they on your skydiving team? No. Inquiring minds want to know. (Have you got a banana number two yet? Still looking. Poor banana, having to go away...) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12040 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 9:29 pm: |      |
Is the opinion about making disparaging comments? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3736 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 3:05 am: |      |
Is the opinion about making disparaging comments? No. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 512 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 9:49 am: |      |
Was the comment also negative to Matt himself? Kind of self-criticism? Was it a comparison Matt to Pat? Was the comment along the lines of "Pat is...."? "Pat has..."? "Pat should..."? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3739 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:01 am: |      |
Was the comment also negative to Matt himself? Yes. Kind of self-criticism? Depends on your viewpoint, I don't think he viewed it as such. Was it a comparison Matt to Pat? No. Was the comment along the lines of "Pat is...."? "Pat has..."? "Pat should..."? No to all. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 516 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:28 am: |      |
Did the comment refer to something else besides Pat, Matt and their common quality/feature? Anything like complaining? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3741 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:46 am: |      |
Did the comment refer to something else besides Pat, Matt and their common quality/feature? No. Anything like complaining? The comment was a sort of complaint. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 517 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:51 am: |      |
The opinion-ish, which defines the group, is by chance their attitude to complaining? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3743 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 10:56 am: |      |
The opinion-ish, which defines the group, is by chance their attitude to complaining? No. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 519 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 11:08 am: |      |
Is this correct to say, that the opinion-ish refers to the content of the comment, not to its form? The common quality/feature of Pat and Matt is something connected with their: family? background? social status? physical look? views? character? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3744 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 11:18 am: |      |
Is this correct to say, that the opinion-ish refers to the content of the comment, not to its form? Correct. The common quality/feature of Pat and Matt is something connected with their: family? background? social status? physical look? views? character? This. Views may also be involved. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 8 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 10:48 pm: |      |
did you not realise that you shared these views/characteristics with Pat until you heard them criticised by Matt? or did hearing the criticism polarise your views? did Matt realise that you were similar to Pat in this way? did Matt think he was being complimentary or positive towards Pat? indifferent? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3760 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 11:05 pm: |      |
did you not realise that you shared these views/characteristics with Pat until you heard them criticised by Matt? FA (see below), but otherwise correct. or did hearing the criticism polarise your views? No. did Matt realise that you were similar to Pat in this way? FA again. Pat and Matt (which is the title of a hilarious TV show btw) share the same view/characteristic which is contrary to mine. did Matt think he was being complimentary or positive towards Pat? No. indifferent? No. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 3174 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 6:14 am: |      |
the TV show was irrelevant to my line of thought, btw, I have never heard of it and still don't know anything about it, but I'll take its hilarity for granted =P Matt is Balin, and Pat could easily be a male or female nickname :-D |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12118 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:12 pm: |      |
Is the characteristic related to emotion? Social life? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3770 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:21 pm: |      |
Is the characteristic related to emotion? Social life? Yes to both. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12121 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:32 pm: |      |
Is the characteristic a reaction to something? Are certain social events relevant? Weddings? Funerals? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3772 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:41 pm: |      |
Is the characteristic a reaction to something? I'm not sure what you mean, care to rephrase? Are certain social events relevant? Weddings? Funerals? No to the rest. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12125 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:44 pm: |      |
Could the characteristic be better defined as a reaction? Relevant about social life - having many friends? Few? Any? None? Number of close friends relevant? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3775 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:51 pm: |      |
Could the characteristic be better defined as a reaction? Noish. Relevant about social life - having many friends? Few? Any? None? Number of close friends relevant? Having friends is relevant, especially to my group. number or closeness of friends is less relevant. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12131 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:53 pm: |      |
A common hobby shared by friends relevant? Such as skydiving? Or this forum? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 23 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 5:54 pm: |      |
is it being extrovert/introvert? generous/tight-fisted? sensitive/insensitive? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3777 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 6:02 pm: |      |
A common hobby shared by friends relevant? Such as skydiving? Or this forum? No to all. is it being extrovert/introvert? generous/tight-fisted? sensitive/insensitive? All of the above are relevant to a varying degree, but remember that the group itself does not have a name like that. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 28 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 7:00 pm: |      |
people who like to stay in on a Saturday night? people who like parties? people who work for a charity? people who like a certain movie genre? people with old-fashioned values? or would the description be more long-winded? as there seems to be no label, is this grouping something that no-one has ever thought of? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3782 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 7:22 pm: |      |
people who like to stay in on a Saturday night? people who like parties? people who work for a charity? people who like a certain movie genre? people with old-fashioned values? None of the above. or would the description be more long-winded? No, it would be about that length, and in the form of "People who <something>". as there seems to be no label, is this grouping something that no-one has ever thought of? No. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 34 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 7:42 pm: |      |
is this quality to do with how they relate to other people? to nature? is it to do with how they see themselves? or more how other people see them? is it a like/dislike? aspirations? is it how they choose to live their life? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3787 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 8:15 pm: |      |
is this quality to do with how they relate to other people? Very much so. to nature? is it to do with how they see themselves? or more how other people see them? This is relevant. is it a like This./dislike? aspirations? is it how they choose to live their life? Noish. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 37 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 8:34 pm: |      |
people who like a certain type of person or group of people? people who need to be liked? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3788 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 8:37 pm: |      |
people who like a certain type of person or group of people? No, but OTRT. people who need to be liked? No, but being liked is relevant. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 39 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 9:06 pm: |      |
people who are liked by a certain type of person or group of people? i'm struggling here |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3790 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 9:09 pm: |      |
people who are liked Yes... by a certain type of person or group of people? But no. i'm struggling here You're close! |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 9:20 pm: |      |
people who are liked for a particular reason? for what they represent? for what they have? for a physical attribute? for what they do? for what they are? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3791 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 9:23 pm: |      |
people who are liked for a particular reason? No, any reason will do, but... for what they represent? for what they have? for a physical attribute? for what they do? for what they are? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 543 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 10:44 pm: |      |
Just people who are liked in general? People who are liked by everybody? Is it rather "people who are liked by..."? Or "people who are liked for..."? Maybe "People who are liked despite of..." Would be a member of the group: - person who has many friends? - person who has a few close friends? - person who easily contacts with people? - person who gets on well with everybody? - person who likes to go out with people? Was the comment along the lines of: "A doesn't like me, B doesn't like Pat" - which made you realize that you are liked by everybody? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3792 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:40 pm: |      |
Just people who are liked in general? People who are liked by everybody? Is it rather "people who are liked by..."? Or "people who are liked for..."? Maybe "People who are liked despite of..." Would be a member of the group: - person who has many friends? - person who has a few close friends? - person who easily contacts with people? - person who gets on well with everybody? This! - person who likes to go out with people? Was the comment along the lines of: "A doesn't like me, B doesn't like Pat" - which made you realize that you are liked by everybody? ***SPOILER*** Matt said, about Pat: "We don't get along." I tried to put myself in his shoes, and found that the feeling of not getting along with someone was foreign to me. I had never thought about it, but it seems that I get along with everyone I know. I did not when I was young, but I guess I've grown up (: Good work all! |