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Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Monday, February 21, 2011 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nate died of starvation. It was an organ grinder's fault.
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Nate = H/A/M?
Is Nate a monkey? Are monkeys involved?
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Nate = H yesish/A/M? yes to both
Is Nate a monkey? Are monkeys involved? no to both
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Nate is adult and male, but only yesishly human? Hmm...

Is Nate a robot? An android? A cyborg? Is Nate a fictional character? A historical figure?
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Nate is adult and male, but only yesishly human? Hmm...

Is Nate a robot? An android? A cyborg? Is Nate a fictional character? this-ish A historical figure?
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Is Nate a character in a play? movie? and did his actor actually die?

or is he from a book?
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Is Nate a character in a play? movie? and did his actor actually die?

or is he from a book? no to all
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Is Nate the organ grinder? Part of the organ? Is the organ mechanical?

By "organ grinder" do you mean "guy with the singing dancing monkey or whatnot"?
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Is Nate the organ grinder? no Part of the organ? no Is the organ mechanical? probably

By "organ grinder" do you mean "guy with the singing dancing monkey or whatnot"? yes
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Are there any other people involved? Does the organ grinder have any other profession/identity besides being obviously organ grinder?
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is Nate a cartoon character? a character in a song?

did Nate know the O.G.? were they related?
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Are there any other people involved? yesish, there's a relevant-ish H/T/F, but she is pretty different from Nate and the organ grinder Does the organ grinder have any other profession/identity besides being obviously organ grinder? no

is Nate a cartoon character? a character in a song? no to both, but keep exploring where you can find fictional characters

did Nate know the O.G.? were they related? no to both
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Is Nate a character from a movie? A TV show? A comic book? A comic strip?
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Is Nate a character from a movie? A TV show? A comic book? A comic strip? no to all
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Nate and the O.G. both fictional? the HAF real?

a fable? fairy story? joke? anecdote? opera? ballad? puppet show? magazine?
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Nate and the O.G. both fictional? yes the HAF real? yes, and it's me

a fable? fairy story? joke? anecdote? opera? ballad? puppet show? magazine? no to all
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Are they in a story you wrote? In something you wrote?

Is Nate an animated character of any type? Like ClayMation?
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Are they in a story you wrote? In something you wrote?

Is Nate an animated character of any type? Like ClayMation?
no to all
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Was Nate starved by the organ grinder? By you?

Starvation = not eating food?
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Was Nate starved by the organ grinder? thisish By you? but also a very little bit of this

Starvation = not eating food? yes
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a poem? a nursery rhyme? an advert?

was there no food near Nate? or was there food nearby but he couldn't reach it? or someone stopped him from eating it?
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a poem? a nursery rhyme? an advert? no to all

was there no food near Nate? or was there food nearby but he couldn't reach it? this or someone stopped him from eating it? and this for svv of "stop"
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did you as the author/creator stop him by creating it the way you did?

was Nate tied up? was it set too high?

did the O.G. stop him by threatening him or getting in the way?

was this a dream?
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did you as the author/creator stop him by creating it the way you did? no

was Nate tied up? was it set too high? no to both

did the O.G. stop him by threatening him or getting in the way? by getting in the way

was this a dream? no
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Is Nate a character from a game?
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Is Nate a character from a game? YES!
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From a board game? Computer game? Video game?
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From a board game? Computer game? this Video game?
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Is the organ grinder also a character? From the same game?
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Is the organ grinder also a character? From the same game? yes to both
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By "computer game," do you mean one which you buy on a CD and play that way? Or one found online? For that matter, is it a Facebook app?
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By "computer game," do you mean one which you buy on a CD and play that way? this Or one found online? For that matter, is it a Facebook app?
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so it is on a CD? or is it an older computer game that comes on a floppy disk (I do remember such things...barely)?

first released in the 1980's? 1990's? 2000's? 2010's?
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so it is on a CD? this or is it an older computer game that comes on a floppy disk (I do remember such things...barely)? Oh yes, the glorious times of floppy disks... I hardly remember them at all, lol.

first released in the 1980's? 1990's? 2000's? this, in 2000 2010's?
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Sims?
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Sims? Yes!
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Bot I no haz plaid simz...

Is Nate a Sim? Is the OG?
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Bot I no haz plaid simz... iz haz missed sumthin!

Is Nate a Sim? Is the OG? both of them are
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Did you create Nate? The OG?

Are specific "rules" of Sims relevant? Tasks?
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Did you create Nate? yes The OG? no, and this is important

Are specific "rules" of Sims relevant? Tasks? no, but what might be important is that they have several "needs" that the player must satisfy. Obviously I failed at that ):
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Random thought... Is the Organ Grinder in the Sims game? Or did he grind your organs, thus preventing you from playing "The Sims" and fulfilling Nate's "needs"?
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Random thought... Is the Organ Grinder in the Sims game? this Or did he grind your organs, thus preventing you from playing "The Sims" and fulfilling Nate's "needs"?
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Did you spend so much time at the organ grinder that Nate kicked the bucket?
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Did you spend so much time at the organ grinder that Nate kicked the bucket? no
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Is the "organ grinder" a need?
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Is the "organ grinder" a need? no, it's a character, but one that I didn't create
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Did Nate have to perform some sort of task for the OG?
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Did Nate have to perform some sort of task for the OG? no

HINT: Try to find out where Nate and the organ grinder were.
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Were they indoors? Outdoors? On the street?
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Were they indoors? this Outdoors? On the street?
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Were they in a house? In a public building? Private residence? Place of business?
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Were they in a house? In a public building? this... probably a shop of some kind, I don't remember exactly Private residence? Place of business?
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Were they customers in the shop? Did either of them work there?
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did the shop sell food?

food which Nate couldn't get to?
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Were they customers in the shop? Nate was Did either of them work there? the organ grinder played there, but he was not a sales assistant or anything like that

did the shop sell food? probably

food which Nate couldn't get to? yes, in fact Nate could not get any food
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Did Nate had to fulfill any conditions to obtain food? Could Nate pass by the Organ Grinder? Was there any other way to get food?
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A random guess: did Nate give any money to the Organ Grinder? His last money, perhaps?
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Did Nate had to fulfill any conditions to obtain food? no Could Nate pass by the Organ Grinder? NO and that's more or less it Was there any other way to get food? he would have to get past the organ grinder which was impossible, so no
A random guess: did Nate give any money to the Organ Grinder? His last money, perhaps? good idea, but no

You're almost there. Try to find out where exactly Nate and the organ grinder were in the shop. HINT: The organ grinder was blocking something
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Was the Organ Grinder blocking the place where you pay? Or was he blocking a queue?
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Was the Organ Grinder blocking the place where you pay? Or was he blocking a queue? no to both
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Could Nate enter the shop at all? Was the Organ Grinder blocking an entrance?
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Could Nate enter the shop at all? yes, he is in the shop Was the Organ Grinder blocking an entrance? yesish - he was blocking a door
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Was the OG blocking an exit? So Nate could not get out and eat?
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Was the OG blocking an exit? yes So Nate could not get out and eat? yes, and this is enough information for the

********SPOILER********
Nate was a character that I had created in The Sims. I made him go to the city centre where there are lots of NPCs (no player characters) that the player can't control.
Nate went to the bathroom in a shop and had just entered the stall when one of these NPCs, an organ grinder, placed himself in front of it. Nate and I waited and waited, but he wouldn't move away so that Nate couldn't get out and I couldn't satisfy his needs. Eventually he fell asleep on the floor and then died of starvation ):


Nice work, everyone (:
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Wow - what an evil organ grinder!

Nice puzzle!

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