| Author | Message | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 711 Registered: 9-2008 |
They wanted to secede years ago. If there was any truth to this claim, then I would whole-heartedly agree! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3235 Registered: 9-2010 |
"They" = a group of people? a state? part of a state? part of a country? Years ago = LTPF list of centuries/decades please? True story? Fictional? FYOI? FSEI? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 712 Registered: 9-2008 |
"They" = a group of people? yes a state? part of a state? yes part of a country? Years ago = LTPF list of centuries/decades please? assume modern times True story? yes Fictional? FYOI? FSEI? yes. (Explore) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 732 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are parts of it true and other parts FSEI? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 713 Registered: 9-2008 |
Are parts of it true and other parts FSEI? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12414 Registered: 4-2010 |
A state - in the US? Alaska? Hawaii? Vermont? Texas? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 714 Registered: 9-2008 |
A state - in the US? yes Alaska? Hawaii? Vermont? Texas? not these | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 735 Registered: 12-2010 |
[LTPF list of US states], please. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3238 Registered: 9-2010 |
AL? AK? AZ? AR? CA? CO? CT? DE? FL? GA? HI? ID? IL? IN? IA? KS? KY? LA? ME? MD? MA? MI? MN? MS? MO? MT? NE? NV? NH? NJ? NM? NY? NC? ND? OH? OK? OR? PA? RI? SC? SD? TN? TX? UT? VT? VA? WA? WV? WI? WY? italicised ones included for the sake of completion, though they were already ruled out | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 818 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it some sort of alternate history story? Like where they have a fiction book which depicts a society where the South won the Civil War and now it's 1915 and the CSA and USA are fighting World War I on an American Front? (That's just an example, not a guess, though if it's close that's nice too) | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 715 Registered: 9-2008 |
Doriana and Kaylee: [LTPF list of US states], please. OK Gregoryuconn: Is it some sort of alternate history story? Like where they have a fiction book which depicts a society where the South won the Civil War and now it's 1915 and the CSA and USA are fighting World War I on an American Front? (That's just an example, not a guess, though if it's close that's nice too) no - but that WOULD make a good story! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3240 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oklahoma then. *ponders* Hm... | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 718 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oklahoma then. *ponders* Hm... indeed... | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3273 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is part of Oklahoma trying to secede from the rest of the state? Like the Panhandle? Or a certain county or counties? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 719 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is part of Oklahoma trying to secede from the rest of the state? Yep, ~the big babies!~ Like the Panhandle? oh, that's true, too -- but not in this story. Or a certain county or counties? To keep this easy, assume no. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3274 Registered: 9-2010 |
the northern part of Oklahoma? Southern part? Eastern? Western? (for this, I'm ignoring the panhandle, since you said no) | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 722 Registered: 9-2008 |
the northern part of Oklahoma? yes... Southern part? Eastern? ...and yes. Western? (for this, I'm ignoring the panhandle, since you said no) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12427 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they want to become a separate state? A separate country? Merge with another state? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 725 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did they want to become a separate state? A separate country? Merge with another state? All of the above, I'm sure! | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 821 Registered: 9-2010 |
It actually is a book, or rather three books within a series: Timeline-191 by Harry Turtledove. The WWI books are the second, third, and fourth in the series. I believe there's about 16 books total. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 733 Registered: 9-2008 |
Gregoryuconn: I'll check it out! Thanks. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12430 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they just want to leave OK? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 735 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did they just want to leave OK? No. Just normal political posturing. Name the city and I will post a recap and share a hint on the next part of the puzzle. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 828 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oklahoma City? Tulsa? Norman? Stillwater? Failing that, here's a lot more * Ada * Adair * Aline * Alma * Altus * Alva * Anadarko * Antlers * Arcadia * Ardmore * Arkoma * Asher * Atoka [edit] B * Barnsdall * Bartlesville * Bearden * Beaver * Beggs * Bethany * Bixby * Blackwell * Blanchard * Boise City * Bowlegs * Bridgeport * Bristow * Broken Arrow * Broken Bow * Bunch [edit] C * Cache * Cameron * Catoosa * Cedar Valley * Centrahoma * Chandler * Checotah * Chelsea * Cherokee * Chickasha * Choctaw * Claremore * Cleveland * Clinton * Coalgate * Comanche * Commerce * Coweta * Crescent * Cromwell * Cushing [edit] D * Davis * Del City * Dewey * Drumright * Duncan * Durant [edit] E * Edmond * Elgin * Elk City * El Reno * Enid * Erick * Eufaula * Durant [edit] F * Fairview * Fort Gibson * Frederick [edit] G * Garber * Geary * Glenpool * Grandfield * Grove * Guthrie * Guymon * Gould [edit] H * Haileyville * Hartshorne * Henryetta * Holdenville * Hominy * Hugo * Hobart [edit] I * Idabel * Inola [edit] J * Jay * Jenks [edit] K * Kaw City * Kingfisher * Konawa * Krebs Kingston, Oklahoma [edit] L * Lamont * Langston * Lawton * Lehigh * Lexington * Lindsay * Lone Grove * Lone Oak [edit] M * Madill * Mangum * Marietta * Marlow * Maud * McAlester * McLoud * Meeker * Medford * Miami * Midwest City * Minco * Moore * Morris * Muskogee * Mustang [edit] N * New Cordell * Newcastle * Newkirk * Nichols Hills * Nicoma Park * Noble * Norman * Nowata * Nomans [edit] O * Oakhurst * Oilton * Okemah * Oklahoma City * Okmulgee * Owasso * Owaho * Oologah [edit] P * Pauls Valley * Pawhuska * Pawnee * Perkins * Perry * Picher * Piedmont * Le Flore * Ponca City * Pond Creek * Poteau * Prague * Pryor * Purcell [edit] R * Ringwood * Red Oak * Ripley [edit] S * Sallisaw * Sand Springs * Sapulpa * Sasakwa * Sayre * Seiling * Seminole * Shawnee * Shidler * Snyder * Spencer * Spiro * Stigler * Stillwater * Stilwell * Stroud * Sulphur [edit] T * Tahlequah * Tecumseh * The Village * Thomas * Tishomingo * Tonkawa * Tulsa * Tupelo * Tuttle [edit] V * Vinita [edit] W * Wagoner * Walters * Warr Acres * Watonga * Waurika * Waynoka * Weatherford * Wetumka * Wewoka * Wilburton * Wilson * Woodward * Wynnewood [edit] Y * Yale * Yukon | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 737 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oklahoma City? Tulsa? This one! Norman? Stillwater? (And I will have to admit that I have never heard of a few of the cities on Greg's list. Wow!) RECAP: Tulsa is a city that often threatens to secede from Oklahoma when they they don't like the decisions made in the state capital of Oklahoma City. (Normal political stuff...whatever!) Now ponder this: If there was any truth to this claim, then I would whole-heartedly agree that Tulsa needs to leave. Hint: The claim is not true -and I don't really think that Tulsa should secede. Delve into "who" and "what". "Why" will be harder to explain... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12441 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it the Tulsa government that makes the threats? The citizens? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 738 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it the Tulsa government that makes the threats? The citizens? Mostly the citizens - but that is irr to the rest of the puzzle. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12450 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the political leaning of Tulsa relevant? Of Oklahoma? Is a certain issue relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 740 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the political leaning of Tulsa relevant? No. Of Oklahoma? No. Is a certain issue relevant? no or no-ish for DOYD of "issue" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12454 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is politics related to the "secession"? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 744 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is politics related to the "secession"? Well yes - but the first sentence of the puzzle statement was crafted to lead you to "Tulsa". So now we need lateral questions related to my hint. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2394 Registered: 7-2009 |
Who makes the claim? the people who want to secede? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 241 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the claim made publicly? in writing? e newspaper? on TV? in a vote? is the claim about being ignored? about breaking the law? about corruption? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 746 Registered: 9-2008 |
Noel: Who makes the claim? that is worth exploring... the people who want to secede? no and FA Shez: was the claim made publicly? yes-ish in writing? yes e newspaper? on TV? in a vote? No to the rest...however the news media did report about it on TV and newspapers. is the claim about being ignored? about breaking the law? about corruption? None of these - likely the same FA. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 247 Registered: 2-2011 |
someone else made the claim? an individual? a group of people? the people in charge at Oklahoma City? a journalist? novelist? researcher? academic? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 749 Registered: 9-2008 |
someone else made the claim? Yes an individual? this one - no to rest a group of people? the people in charge at Oklahoma City? a journalist? novelist? researcher? academic? None of these | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 249 Registered: 2-2011 |
in a book? an interview? a newspaper article? a magazine article? a letter? the interweb? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12467 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the claimer a Tulsa resident? An Oklahoma resident? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 751 Registered: 9-2008 |
Shez: in a book? an interview? a newspaper article? a magazine article? a letter? the interweb? Yes to this one only. Balin: Is the claimer a Tulsa resident? An Oklahoma resident? No to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12486 Registered: 4-2010 |
So...online? On a blog? A forum? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 753 Registered: 9-2008 |
So...online? yes On a blog? yope to yesish A forum? no to noish -- based on my definition of these terms. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12489 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it on a news site? A game site? A rumor site? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 754 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was it on a news site? A game site? A rumor site? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 254 Registered: 2-2011 |
wikipedia? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 755 Registered: 9-2008 |
wikipedia? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12493 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it on the person's personal site? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 756 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was it on the person's personal site? personal website?...no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12500 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the person regularly contribute to the site? Was it a political site? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 757 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the person regularly contribute to the site? yes. unfortunately, still does... Was it a political site? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12507 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a conversational thread? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 759 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it a conversational thread? yes-ish, sometimes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12512 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a chatroom? Do many people regularly use it? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 762 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it a chatroom? No Do many people regularly use it? yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3296 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it the LTPF? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 763 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it the LTPF? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12532 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it frequently updated? Does it mainly link to other sites? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 764 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it frequently updated? usually...depends on the person Does it mainly link to other sites? not usually - but possible | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 273 Registered: 2-2011 |
have we tried facebook? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12545 Registered: 4-2010 |
If not that, another social networking site? Myspace? Twitter? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 765 Registered: 9-2008 |
Shez: have we tried facebook? no Balin: If not that, another social networking site? Myspace? Twitter? This is it! RECAP: Poor Tulsa...someone made a claim about them. If there could be any truth to this claim, then I would whole-heartedly agree that Tulsa needs to leave the state of Oklahoma - or the whole USA perhaps(?) Find "who" and "what". Hint: My interpretation as to "why" the claim was made is somewhere above but has gone unquestioned. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12547 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the claim made in all seriousness? Tongue-in-cheek? Claimer: a comedian? A politician? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 277 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a comment on the people of Tulsa? on their intelligence or integrity or some other personal quality? or something they were supposed to have done? or the way other people in Oklahoma felt about them? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 669 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the claim made as an answer to any recent event? recent political decision? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 766 Registered: 9-2008 |
Balin: Was the claim made in all seriousness? Tongue-in-cheek? Hard to say...One hopes it was tongue-in-cheek. Claimer: a comedian? A politician? neither Shez: was it a comment on the people of Tulsa? no on their intelligence or integrity or some other personal quality? no or something they were supposed to have done? no or the way other people in Oklahoma felt about them? No Redwine: Was the claim made as an answer to any recent event? no - but svv of event? recent political decision? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12562 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the claim involve Tulsa being upset at the rest of Oklahoma? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 290 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the claim about something which had happened in the past? about something the people of Tulsa had done? about something that had been done to them? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 769 Registered: 9-2008 |
Balin: Did the claim involve Tulsa being upset at the rest of Oklahoma? no Shez: was the claim about something which had happened in the past? yes - but it wasn't true. about something the people of Tulsa had done? No about something that had been done to them? yes-ish | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 774 Registered: 9-2008 |
Another hint: The title is a reference to an ad campaign from the '80s. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12600 Registered: 4-2010 |
Drugs relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 775 Registered: 9-2008 |
Drugs relevant? Yes, in my opinion, it explains why the claim was made. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 780 Registered: 9-2008 |
Recap: "Someone" wrote "something" on Twitter about the city of Tulsa. It really couldn't be true - probably just ramblings from a brain on drugs. Ask questions about the "someone"...and I will put this poor puzzle out of it's misery. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12720 Registered: 4-2010 |
The "someone" - someone you know? Charlie Sheen? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 392 Registered: 2-2011 |
you know Charlie Sheen? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12729 Registered: 4-2010 |
No - it's more of a non sequitur. Charlie Sheen, with his rants, just popped into my head after typing the first question. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 394 Registered: 2-2011 |
tee hee | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 781 Registered: 9-2008 |
Balin: The "someone" - someone you know? Charlie Sheen? yes! Good job! Spoiler: By now I am sure that everyone has heard about Charlie Sheen's explosive outbursts. On Twitter, Sheen has over 3 million followers - but he only follows just over 30 people. One of those people is an average guy from Tulsa, OK. Read the story here. Tulsa World Sheen's response: "I invented Tulsa, OK ... in my sleep." My response: Boy, if that's true, then I will support Tulsa's desire to secede and create their own state. Goodbye, Tulsa! Thanks to all who stuck with the puzzle...Balin! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 400 Registered: 2-2011 |
well done Balin, and good puzzle Kaygee | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12750 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow - wild guess pays off! |
