| Author | Message | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 765 Registered: 12-2010 |
It was its name that saved its life. its 1 = its 2 | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 391 Registered: 7-2010 |
It: An animal? An object? A concept? A tradition? The name: The dictionary term for "it" (like, the sheep)? A name given to it (like, "Dolly", the sheep? Is it still alive? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 768 Registered: 12-2010 |
It: An animal? An object? this A concept? A tradition? The name: The dictionary term for "it" (like, the sheep)? no A name given to it (like, "Dolly", the sheep? yes Is it still alive yes | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 392 Registered: 7-2010 |
So it was one very specific object then? If it had been called a different name, it wouldn't be around anymore, right? Would it have been: Thrown away? Destroyed? Put away to be forgotten (and possibly being damaged by not being used, like, though corrosion)? Over-used or used in a wrong way (and damaged by the overstrain)? Is the item usually found in a home? In an office? A factory? In some other indoor place? Outdoors? Is it a toy? Due to its name, was it mistaken for something else (that was supposed to live)? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 769 Registered: 12-2010 |
So it was one very specific object then? yes If it had been called a different name, it wouldn't be around anymore, right? most probably not Would it have been: Thrown away? no Destroyed? yes, probably Put away to be forgotten (and possibly being damaged by not being used, like, though corrosion)? no Over-used or used in a wrong way (and damaged by the overstrain)? no Is the item usually found in a home? \In an office? A factory? In some other indoor place? yope to all of these - keep exploring Outdoors? not very often Is it a toy? noish Due to its name, was it mistaken for something else (that was supposed to live)? yesish, DOYD of "mistaken" | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 394 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was the item used in an unusual way? As if it was something different? Like, a box that's being used as, say, a car, by a little child? Can the item be found in most homes? Is it bigger than a dice? A fist? A book? A microwave? A table? Is it (mostly) made of [LTPF list of materials]? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 770 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the item used in an unusual way? As if it was something different? Like, a box that's being used as, say, a car, by a little child? no Can the item be found in most homes? yope, there might be an FA Is it bigger than a dice? A fist? A book? A microwave? A table? this Is it (mostly) made of [LTPF list of materials]? metal | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2010 |
Bigger than a table then... Is it also bigger than: A person? A cabinet? A car? A truck? A house? Is it an electronic device? Is the reason why it was about to be destroyed relevant? Didn't it work properly anymore? Was it outdated? Did it consume too much energy? Was it supposed to be "cannibalized"? Did the name the thing was being called suggest that it was something that it really wasn't (like a fridge-freezer combination that's only being referred to as a fridge or a freezer)? Or did the name enhance the object's value in some way? Is nostalgia relevant? Is the item still being used? If not, could it be used if, for example, it was turned on? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 771 Registered: 12-2010 |
Bigger than a table then... Is it also bigger than: A person? A cabinet? A car? this, but I'm not completely sure A truck? A house? Is it an electronic device? yes Is the reason why it was about to be destroyed relevant? yes Didn't it work properly anymore? Was it outdated? Did it consume too much energy? Was it supposed to be "cannibalized"? no to all Did the name the thing was being called suggest that it was something that it really wasn't yesish(like a fridge-freezer combination that's only being referred to as a fridge or a freezer but nothing like that)? Or did the name enhance the object's value in some way? thisish too, but it DOYD of "enhance" and "value" Is nostalgia relevant? no Is the item still being used? no If not, could it be used if, for example, it was turned on? I'm not sure, but probably yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12438 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the object valuable? Was it named for a person? Was it a vehicle of any sort? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 643 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the object unique (by its features)? Or was it common, and only its name made it distinguishable? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 772 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the object valuable? yes Was it named for a person? no Was it a vehicle of any sort? no Was the object unique (by its features)? yes Or was it common, and only its name made it distinguishable? no | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 646 Registered: 1-2011 |
Timeframe relevant? Was the object a computer? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 243 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it something you could get inside? or put things inside? is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 773 Registered: 12-2010 |
Timeframe relevant? very Was the object a computer? yes!! is it something you could get inside? or put things inside? noish to both is this a true story? yes FYOI? FSEI? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 248 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the computer called ada or is the puzzle title a reference to ada lovelace? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 774 Registered: 12-2010 |
is the computer called ada no or is the puzzle title a reference to ada lovelace? yes! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1425 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it the only purpose of the title to mark the reference to computers? Or there are more links with the Ada programming language? (like this being one computer relevant in the development of the language, etc) Was this a mainframe of old times (ENIAC?) ? Or was it built after 2000? Relevant the manufacturer? IBM? DEC? HP? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 776 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it the only purpose of the title to mark the reference to computers? Orno there are more links with the Ada programming language? not the programming language, but Ada Lovelace herself is laterally relevant (like this being one computer relevant in the development of the language, etc) Was this a mainframe of old times (ENIAC?) ? yes, but not ENIAC Or was it built after 2000? so, no Relevant the manufacturer? oh yes! IBM? DEC? HP? none of these | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 777 Registered: 12-2010 |
A little BLOOOPER: I just looked it up, it does NOT count as a mainframe. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1426 Registered: 9-2009 |
The manufacturer: someone from the BUNCH? RCA? GE? Sun? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1427 Registered: 9-2009 |
Oh, and forgot to ask: was it a Cray? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 778 Registered: 12-2010 |
The manufacturer: someone from the BUNCH? RCA? GE? Sun? no to all Oh, and forgot to ask: was it a Cray? and another no You're a little bit OTWT | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 252 Registered: 2-2011 |
this individual computer had been given a name? was it a name given by the manufacturer? or a pet name given by the operators? others who used it? had it become obsolete? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 779 Registered: 12-2010 |
this individual computer had been given a name? yes was it a name given by the manufacturer? yesish or a pet name given by the operators? noish others who used it? no had it become obsolete? not at all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12479 Registered: 4-2010 |
Time period: [LTPF list of decades]? Is it a supercomputer? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 782 Registered: 12-2010 |
Time period: [LTPF list of decades]? 1940's Is it a supercomputer? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12480 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it the first ever computer? Was it one of those giant ones with vacuum tubes that weighed half a gajillion tons? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 783 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was it the first ever computer? the second Was it one of those giant ones with vacuum tubes that weighed half a gajillion tons? it didn't have tubes, but in general - yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12481 Registered: 4-2010 |
The Z3? ABC? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 784 Registered: 12-2010 |
The Z3? no, but... ABC? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12482 Registered: 4-2010 |
CNC? Bombe? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 785 Registered: 12-2010 |
CNC? Bombe? no to both, Z3 was really close | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12484 Registered: 4-2010 |
Z1? Z2? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 787 Registered: 12-2010 |
Z1? Z2? no, they didn't really count as computers... but Z is a good start | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12488 Registered: 4-2010 |
Z-something? Z4? Z5? Z6? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1428 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it built by a German manufacturer? Maybe Zuse himself? British? (Colossus line?) American? Australian? Was it built during the war? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 788 Registered: 12-2010 |
Z-something? Z4? yes Z5? Z6? Was it built by a German manufacturer? yes Maybe Zuse himself? yes British? (Colossus line?) American? Australian? so, no to rest Was it built during the war? yes I won't be online till Wednesday, so here's a recap to help you solve the puzzle: During the war, Konrad Zuse built several computers, one of them being the Z4. If it had had a different name (beware of FA!), it would have been destroyed during WW2. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12491 Registered: 4-2010 |
By "name," do you mean "Z4"? Or some other nickname? Were other computers destroyed during WWII? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 693 Registered: 6-2003 |
Destroyed by the Nazis? by the Americans? by a commercial competitor? Destroyed on purpose? Destroyed because the place where the Z4 was got bombed? Relevant that Zuse moved the Z4 several times to protect it? Would he not have been able to do this if the computer had a different name? Would the Z4 have been in a different place then? and got destroyed? I think IBM tried to buy the Z4 after the war with the intention to stop the development and to get a competitor out of the way? Is this relevant? There is also a story that the Z4 appeared as V4 in some official documents, so that it looked as if it belongs to the V4 project and got protection from the government .. relevant? So, the Nazi government let Zuse continue with his project rather than destroying the computer in order not to leave it to the Americans? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 789 Registered: 12-2010 |
By "name," do you mean "Z4"? no Or some other nickname? yes Were other computers destroyed during WWII? irrel Destroyed by the Nazis? by the Americans? this by a commercial competitor? Destroyed on purpose? Destroyed because the place where the Z4 was got bombed? both would have been possible Relevant that Zuse moved the Z4 several times to protect it? yes Would he not have been able to do this if the computer had a different name? well, it would have been much more difficult Would the Z4 have been in a different place then? probably and got destroyed? probably I think IBM tried to buy the Z4 after the war with the intention to stop the development and to get a competitor out of the way? i don't know... Is this relevant? no There is also a story that the Z4 appeared as V4 in some official documents, so that it looked as if it belongs to the V4 project and got protection from the government .. relevant? YES! This is more or less the answer, although as far as I know there was no such thing as a V4 project, BUT... So, the Nazi government let Zuse continue with his project rather than destroying the computer in order not to leave it to the Americans? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12551 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the "destroyers" even realize that it was a computer? Did they think it was something else? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 667 Registered: 1-2011 |
Does it look like Z4 alias V4 was something important for the military? A part of military industry? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 790 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did the "destroyers" even realize that it was a computer? maybe, but it could have been destroyed in one of the "normal" bombings too Did they think it was something else? probably not Does it look like Z4 alias V4 was something important for the military? A part of military industry? yes to both! Why exactly did they call it V4 and not for example D8? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 286 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it so that it would look like a successor to the V2? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3304 Registered: 9-2010 |
well, if they called it V8, they'd have to make vegetable juice with it! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 791 Registered: 12-2010 |
was it so that it would look like a successor to the V2? YES! ********SPOILER******** The puzzle is about Konrad Zuse's computer Z4 which he built in his home in Berlin during WW2. When the Allies started bombing Berlin, he wanted to move the Z4 in order to prevent it from being destroyed (accidentially or intentionally). But because of the war, it would have been extremely difficult and dangerous to transport such a big machine. To make things easier, he decided to call the Z4 "V4" which made it look like a successor to the V1 and V2, two important German missiles. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 796 Registered: 12-2010 |
And by the way, Ada Lovelace was a 19th century mathematician and the "first computer prgrammer". Konrad Zuse read about her in a book, and she was his muse and inspiration ever since. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 288 Registered: 2-2011 |
wow! I'm dead chuffed. |
