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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he really killed me?
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he = H?A?M? A real person? A fictional person?
me = you, Rbruma?
"kill" as in "end someone's life"? Or in a figurative meaning?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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he = H?A?M? Yes A real person? A fictional person? This
me = you, Rbruma? No
"kill" as in "end someone's life"? Yesish Or in a figurative meaning? Also a little bit of this, for puzzles' sake

BLOOPER: Did he really kill me? :D
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me = H?A?M? A real person? A fictional person?

Does this happen in a book? film? game?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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me = H?A?M? A real person? yope A fictional person? yes

Does this happen in a book? yes to this, no to the rest film? game?
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Is it a novel? Science fiction? Fantasy? Crime?
Is it important when it was written? If so, [LTPF list of decades], please.
Is the story set in our world? In a fictional world?
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is it written in the 1st person (hence the me)?

me = H?A?M?

is the fictional me actually dead? is there any doubt?

does me think there's a possibility it may have been an accident?

did me die from a shooting? knifing? poison? strangulation? a battering? being hit by a car? drowning?
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Poetry involved?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Is it a novel? Science fiction? Fantasy? Crime?
Is it important when it was written? If so, [LTPF list of decades], please. No to all. The book itself was written a few decades ago, but it relates to things that happened in the 6th-5th centuries before Christ
Is the story set in our world? Yesish In a fictional world?

is it written in the 1st person (hence the me)? Not the book, but a story from it

me = H?A?M? Yes

is the fictional me actually dead? Not yet is there any doubt?

does me think there's a possibility it may have been an accident? It was, but OTWT

did me die from a shooting? DOYD of shooting, but most important... knifing? poison? ... this, beware FA strangulation? a battering? being hit by a car? drowning?
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poetry involved? No, but good question
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Does "me" die? Become sick? Does "me," at any point, think he's dead?
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Does "me" die? Yes Become sick? Does "me," at any point, think he's dead? No, he is going to die any time now
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Does he know he's going to die? But doesn't know when? Was he murdered? Does he know (or think) this? Does he know who killed him? Does he think he does?
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Does he know he's going to die? Yes But doesn't know when? No, it's a matter of hours Was he murdered? No Does he know (or think) this? No Does he know who killed him? No, and this is OTRT! Does he think he does? I lost track here. Would you please rephrase?
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Does he think he knows who killed him? (i.e. Does he think Johann Pachelbel killed him, but it wasn't actually Pachelbel?)
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Does he think he knows who killed him? No (i.e. Does he think Johann Pachelbel killed him, but it wasn't actually Pachelbel?) Something along these lines, but might mislead
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was he shot by a poisoned arrow? dart from a blow pipe? or is the poisoning something more like scepticemia from a wound?

did this happen during a battle? is the confusion because there were a number of people "shooting" at the same time and it might have been any one of them?
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Does he suspect anybody of having killed him? If so, are his suspicions justified? Or is he just wondering?
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was he shot by a poisoned arrow? A big YES. Well done dart from a blow pipe? or is the poisoning something more like scepticemia from a wound?

did this happen during a battle? I think so is the confusion because there were a number of people "shooting" at the same time and it might have been any one of them? Yes again, explore

Does he suspect anybody of having killed him? No If so, are his suspicions justified? Or is he just wondering? This one
Balin (Balin)
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Was the poison slow-acting?
Balin (Balin)
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Was the poison slow-acting?
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is "me" a king? another kind of leader?

is this from the Old Testament? Greek history? Roma? Persian?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Was the poison slow-acting? It made its effects in a few hours... I don't know if it can be classified as such

Is "me" a king? No another kind of leader? Yes, assume a kind of a tribal leader, but that is largely irrelevant

is this from the Old Testament? Greek history? Roma? Persian? No to all. The period is right, the region is wrong
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Bhuddism? I think there's a parable of the poisoned arrow but I don't know the details - I thought it was about being treated?
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Bhuddism? Yes I think there's a parable of the poisoned arrow but I don't know the details - I thought it was about being treated? And yes again -- very well done! If someone wants to keep exploring I will let this stay for one more day, if not -- as Shez discovered the source -- I will $poil it
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Did he even realize he'd been shot?
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Did he even realize he'd been shot? Yes, he was on his deathbed
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Did he accuse anyone?
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Did he accuse anyone? Noish
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Is it a "no man can kill me"-type story? Is a prophecy involved?
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Is it a "no man can kill me"-type story? Is a prophecy involved? No to both
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Does the puzzle statement refer to the fact he wasn't sure who had killed him?
Was the person who fired the arrow aware it was poisoned?
Was he the one who poisoned it?
Did the doctor (or whatever) not treat the wound correctly?
Helped spread the poison?
Did something that released the poison?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Does the puzzle statement refer to the fact he wasn't sure who had killed him? Yes
Was the person who fired the arrow aware it was poisoned? Probably, but irrelevant
Was he the one who poisoned it? Who knows?
Did the doctor (or whatever) not treat the wound correctly? a big yes (-ish), which concludes the story
Helped spread the poison? It spread by itself...
Did something that released the poison?

Since all the facts are clear, let's proceed to the

****** SPOILER *******

The puzzle was an introduction to the the "Teaching of the poisoned arrow", a famous Buddhist parable. Here it goes, in short:

Questioned one day about the problem of the infinity of the world, the Buddha said, "Whether the world is finite or infinite, limited or unlimited, the problem of your liberation remains the same." Another time he said, "Suppose a man is struck by a poisoned arrow and the doctor wishes to take out the arrow immediately. Suppose the man does not want the arrow removed until he knows who shot it, his age, his parents, and why he shot it. What would happen? If he were to wait until all these questions have been answered, the man might die first."

Thanks to all who participated.

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